Electric vehicle ( EV ) Industries

[hydrabadi_arab]

Cherry has questionable quality control issues, BYD are actually alot better on that front and their battery technology(longevity under recharging) is considered to be very good too..

For that we will need to wait some years. Warranty is good, it will be locally assembled so company isn't going anywhere. This should replace Yaris, Alsvin, Honda city or even Corolla. Because the saving on petrol alone will be Rs500k per year for 20k/km for the same price.

Long-Term Outlook​

Because the Chery Q is a brand-new release in 2026, there is currently no real-world, long-term reliability data from high-mileage owners. However, Chery has implemented several measures to address long-term durability:

• Structural Integrity: The vehicle is built around a 5-longitudinal, 8-transverse cage-like structure utilizing 82% high-strength steel.
• Environmental Protection: The battery and drivetrain carry an IP68 dust and water resistance rating, which provides essential protection in regions prone to monsoon rains or flooding.
• Manufacturer Warranties: To back up its reliability claims, Chery is offering extended coverage in its launch markets—such as a substantial 6-year/160,000 km vehicle warranty in Pakistan—indicating strong corporate confidence in the car's longevity.
• Battery Management: The 42.7 kWh battery supports up to 85 kW DC fast charging (replenishing from 30% to 80% in roughly 16 minutes), utilizing modern thermal management systems that help preserve battery cell health over years of charging cycles. Battery Warranty: 8 Years or 160,000 km

 

[Ali_Baba]

For that we will need to wait some years. Warranty is good, it will be locally assembled so company isn't going anywhere.

Why take the risk, if the collective track record reported by so many EV specialists is so bad on it as brand ? I wouldn't take the risk with my money, not worth the risk, let other's do the experiment.

 

[Michael]

Cherry has questionable quality control issues, BYD are actually alot better on that front and their battery technology(longevity under recharging) is considered to be very good too..

Chery and BYD share the same market positioning; both focus primarily on the low-to-mid-range segment for everyday transportation. Their technical capabilities in the automotive sector are comparable, though Chery holds a slight edge.

The turning point for them came with the advent of the electric vehicle (EV) era. While China was driving EV adoption as a national strategic priority, Chery failed to capitalize on this opportunity. In contrast, BYD started out as a battery manufacturer—originally producing backup batteries for mobile phones during the 2G era—and automobiles represent just one facet of its operations, which span numerous other technology sectors. Furthermore, BYD is headquartered in Shenzhen, a location that naturally fosters a keen sense of technological agility.

From then on, BYD embarked on a path of rapid growth, while Chery gradually fell into difficulties. However, Chery’s overseas expansion has consistently been very successful.

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As for your impressions—that issue certainly existed. However, our feeling is that the build quality of cars from both companies is poor. This is because they target the low-end market, where cost is the deciding factor.

However, they are capable of building "good cars".

Chery has its own high-end brand. At the same time, it also manufactures vehicles for internationally renowned brands like Land Rover and Jaguar. BYD has its own high-end brand, "Yangwang."

The issue is the price!

Virtually all Chinese EV brands today share essentially the same supply chains and technological frameworks. Price and quality are closely linked, while the relationship with the brand itself—though present—is minimal.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

"Chery Q also changes the running-cost equation. Its 42.7 kWh battery, up to 400 km NEDC range and 9.4 km/kWh efficiency make it particularly relevant for households with solar. At 20,000 km annually, a typical petrol vehicle can cost approximately Rs488,000–569,000 in fuel, compared with approximately Rs30,000 for Q on solar."

Its a no brainer. You buy $20k ICE car, spend $20k in 10 years to drive it. After 10 years you spent $40k on ICE car vs $20k on Chery Q.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Chery and BYD share the same market positioning; both focus primarily on the low-to-mid-range segment for everyday transportation. Their technical capabilities in the automotive sector are comparable, though Chery holds a slight edge.

The turning point for them came with the advent of the electric vehicle (EV) era. While China was driving EV adoption as a national strategic priority, Chery failed to capitalize on this opportunity. In contrast, BYD started out as a battery manufacturer—originally producing backup batteries for mobile phones during the 2G era—and automobiles represent just one facet of its operations, which span numerous other technology sectors. Furthermore, BYD is headquartered in Shenzhen, a location that naturally fosters a keen sense of technological agility.

From then on, BYD embarked on a path of rapid growth, while Chery gradually fell into difficulties. However, Chery’s overseas expansion has consistently been very successful.

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As for your impressions—that issue certainly existed. However, our feeling is that the build quality of cars from both companies is poor. This is because they target the low-end market, where cost is the deciding factor.

However, they are capable of building "good cars".

Chery has its own high-end brand. At the same time, it also manufactures vehicles for internationally renowned brands like Land Rover and Jaguar. BYD has its own high-end brand, "Yangwang."

The issue is the price!

Virtually all Chinese EV brands today share essentially the same supply chains and technological frameworks. Price and quality are closely linked, while the relationship with the brand itself—though present—is minimal.

Here in the UK, BYD seem to have a better reputation, whereas Polestar is considered to have reliability issues, and same with Geely. As to whether that is because for the UK BYD has decided to take a different approach to "quality" for the UK market than the Geely family has, or if it is from better marketing is unknown.

 

[Ali_Baba]

"Chery Q also changes the running-cost equation. Its 42.7 kWh battery, up to 400 km NEDC range and 9.4 km/kWh efficiency make it particularly relevant for households with solar. At 20,000 km annually, a typical petrol vehicle can cost approximately Rs488,000–569,000 in fuel, compared with approximately Rs30,000 for Q on solar."

Its a no brainer. You buy $20k ICE car, spend $20k in 10 years to drive it. After 10 years you spent $40k on ICE car vs $20k on Chery Q.

Maintenance costs of electrical cars is very low with annual serving being filter changes etc. There is still an electrical gearbox that "eventually" needs servicing but it is not like an ICE based car. Reliability overall is much better as there are fewer moving parts. Battery life with this current generation is very good, and a car has a shelf life of 10-15 years. The reports of Tesla at 250k miles still have 85% batter life left is damn impressive!

My next car will be a Tesla(Model 3), most likely. Just looking into at the moment. It has the excellent charger network and the route planning with the charger network is fantastic.

 

[Aziqbal]

Mercedes CLA 250+ is also very efficient

 

[KingQamaR]

Guys . Never buy an EV without home-charging.

 

[KingQamaR]

I heard another thing to worry about is, check with insurance companies, before buying as some car types are astronomical and some they won’t insure. Is that true ?

 

[Ali_Baba]

Guys . Never buy an EV without home-charging.

Home charging helps with preserving the life of a battery, but there are so many electrical points around the uk these days for fast charging, its not a problem from that perspective.

 

[Ali_Baba]

I heard another thing to worry about is, check with insurance companies, before buying as some car types are astronomical and some they won’t insure. Is that true ?

Personally, not looked that deep into it yet. I am in the early days of research, my car has 3-5 years of real life left before i run it into the ground, so time to work it all out.

You can try https://www.comparethemarket.com/ with some fake details of a car(just pull a registration plate from autotrader etc) to see what quote you will get for your circumstances relative to a ICE car of the same age and value, etc. The new Nissan Leaf is considered to be very good and being made in the UK means it will have a low insurance cost..

https://www.nissan.co.uk/cf/vehicles/new-vehicles/leaf

I am not convinced of the need to buy "german" when making the switch to an EV given how simple the mechanics of the car are and the lower engineering level required for it to function etc.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Are there any EV owners on this forum?

 

[KingQamaR]

Home charging helps with preserving the life of a battery, but there are so many electrical points around the uk these days for fast charging, its not a problem from that perspective.

For people who cant charge a home EVs don’t make a huge amount of sense. Even cheap charging ( Tesla superchargers) isn’t really useable as an every day option prices of chargers from Tesla to Arnold Clark, supermarkets, Petrol stations vary and can take 20-40 mins to charge and cost the same as petrol . Charging at home Bhai , it’s a game changer which means you pay around 4.9p KW/h compared to the companies I mentioned above they can be 44p to 55p per KW/h. Which means I don’t know if it’s true or not depending on how you drive and weather conditions, traffic city commute drive / motorway driving. A home charger of 4.9p means 167 miles journey ? That’s mad crazy savings???

 

[KingQamaR]

Depreciation on EVs is higher than combustion cars. So brothers do your research on EVs before you commit to A very expensive one.

 

[Michael]

Here in the UK, BYD seem to have a better reputation, whereas Polestar is considered to have reliability issues, and same with Geely. As to whether that is because for the UK BYD has decided to take a different approach to "quality" for the UK market than the Geely family has, or if it is from better marketing is unknown.

Chery, Geely, and BYD all started out manufacturing low-to-mid-range, affordable vehicles. It is only in recent years that they have begun venturing into the production of mid-to-high-end models.

Due to the international landscape, the Chinese EVs currently exported worldwide are exclusively low-to-mid-range, affordable models; exports of Chinese mid-to-high-end EVs to international markets have not yet commenced. (While Chinese mid-to-high-end EVs are occasionally spotted in other countries, they usually arrive via special channels.)

In China's domestic market for mid-to-high-end EVs, the HIMA (Harmony Intelligent Mobility Alliance) series—backed by Huawei—holds a leading position. They are followed by Li Auto, NIO, Xpeng, Xiaomi Auto, and Tesla. BYD’s Yangwang series also commands a certain customer base. However, in overseas markets, Tesla is generally the only option available, while other Chinese mid-to-high-end EVs are difficult to purchase.

In Europe, local regulations have forced the prices of affordable Chinese EVs upward, causing retail prices to significantly exceed their standard market rates. The resulting price markup does not translate into profit for the Chinese manufacturers; instead, it is captured by local governments and dealerships.

Depreciation on EVs is higher than combustion cars. So brothers do your research on EVs before you commit to A very expensive one.

For electric vehicles (EVs), the battery pack accounts for a significant portion of the total cost, yet the pack itself is a consumable item. By the time an EV reaches the end of its service life—whether measured by mileage or years—the recovery value of the battery pack is minimal; recycling is driven primarily by environmental considerations.
Consequently, the residual value of used EVs is very low, and the rate of vehicle depreciation is steep. In contrast, internal combustion engine vehicles tend to depreciate at a much more favorable rate.

However, some manufacturers in China have begun promoting a sales model that decouples the EV from the battery pack. Under this arrangement, the purchase price of the vehicle excludes the battery; instead, owners can lease the battery or subscribe to a battery-swapping service. Ownership of the battery pack remains with the leasing company or the manufacturer. These providers establish networks of stations offering fully charged batteries that can be quickly swapped in at any time.

This model is still in the exploratory stage. A major challenge is that individual manufacturers lack the capacity to build a sufficiently dense network of battery-swapping stations, and battery packs from different manufacturers are not compatible with one another. Addressing this requires state intervention to standardize battery specifications and ensure interoperability—yet the Chinese government is currently taking a "wait-and-see" approach.