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Mr. Green

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Afghans don't are about religion, this is all about afghanism or pashtunism or whichever word suits you, they are ethnocentric and caused enough problems
If Punjabis are wiling to share power with the Pashtuns/Afghans in a more balanced way instead of making motorways to every nook and corner of Punjab at the expense of the rest of the country then this problem would vanish.
 

hussain0216

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If Punjabis are wiling to share power with the Pashtuns/Afghans in a more balanced way instead of making motorways to every nook and corner of Punjab at the expense of the rest of the country then this problem would vanish.

Development tends to occur in the most stable parts of any country, in Pakistan the most stable parts are Punjab and Kashmir and you tend to have more, prosperity and development

People from across Pakistan can turn up in Punjab and the local people won't attack them, hurt them or anything, their may be other issues but nothing like that

So any development, Investment etc we do get is going to go to stable areas with good population

Stability and security is a two way process, the security forces are on one side but it also requires public and citizen resolve, following of laws and no fassad

Something that has been missing in K.P and Balochistan


Point 2- Afghans are enemies of Pakistan, these people have been causing problems now for 75 years.

One thing after another, bombs going off,
Robbery
Drugs
Guns
Turning a bling eye to terrorists

Pakistan has helped enough, we need to look after our own population rather then constantly deal with these donkey afghans
 

hussain0216

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Calm your tits down dude.

Get these worthless namak haram Afghans out of the country, and we can all be calm

We can't constantly have those manhoos scum constantly cause trouble and violence

It's not like we are asking for something strange, just peace, trade and following of laws

So what's the afghans constant problem?
 

Mr. Green

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Development tends to occur in the most stable parts of any country, in Pakistan the most stable parts are Punjab and Kashmir and you tend to have more, prosperity and development

People from across Pakistan can turn up in Punjab and the local people won't attack them, hurt them or anything, their may be other issues but nothing like that

So any development, Investment etc we do get is going to go to stable areas with good population

Stability and security is a two way process, the security forces are on one side but it also requires public and citizen resolve, following of laws and no fassad

Something that has been missing in K.P and Balochistan


Point 2- Afghans are enemies of Pakistan, these people have been causing problems now for 75 years.

One thing after another, bombs going off,
Robbery
Drugs
Guns
Turning a bling eye to terrorists

Pakistan has helped enough, we need to look after our own population rather then constantly deal with these donkey afghans
The history of Afghans with the Punjab and beyond is much longer than 75 years.
There was a lot of stability in East Pakistan but no development. That is why they decided to separate.
Please do not assume that the people of Sindh, Balochistan and KPK are fools. They are politically more mature than the people of Punjab who are brought up on Nazariya i Pakistan and enmity with India. Now, even the eyes of half the population of Punjab has opened with what has happened to PTI.
 

hussain0216

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The history of Afghans with the Punjab and beyond is much longer than 75 years.
There was a lot of stability in East Pakistan but no development. That is why they decided to separate.
Please do not assume that the people of Sindh, Balochistan and KPK are fools. They are politically more mature than the people of Punjab who are brought up on Nazariya i Pakistan and enmity with India. Now, even the eyes of half the population of Punjab has opened with what has happened to PTI.

Our political situation needs rectifying, but the fassad being spread by afghans is not tolerable regardless of the political situation, Pakistan and the Muslim world has bigger enemies to deal with then to constantly turn in wards to always get stuck dealing with afghans or naraz Baloch and them blowing shit up when we need to develop and change for the future of the combined Muslim world

We have now done enough, and we need to selfishly deal with the afghans as a enemy that won't and can't change
 

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Even in the civil war in Bangladesh we went hell for leather against the Hindus, and millions of them died of ran to ensure Bangladesh remained a free muslim state

Yeah NO! Hindus mostly fled to India. The actual casualties were Muslims fighting other Muslims and the death toll was <= 300k.

Bangladesh is under Indian influence. If you think 1971 was a successful operations, then either your delusional or the cope is strong in you.

See this is what I’m talking, lack of strategic insights and forward leaning understanding of decision making. Pakistanis continue to make these stupids mistakes and then try to twist it around as some genius 5d move.

I recalled reading the piss contest from Pakistanis on how they control some peaks in Kargil. Great! Enjoy those peaks while 4 villages of GB are in control by the Indians that they took from you in 1971. Meanwhile, yeah hooray, we have two peaks.
 

Abid123

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Get these worthless namak haram Afghans out of the country, and we can all be calm

We can't constantly have those manhoos scum constantly cause trouble and violence

It's not like we are asking for something strange, just peace, trade and following of laws

So what's the afghans constant problem?
The Afghan people are not your enemy.
 

LeGenD

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Pakistan has been fine, apart from the civil war in Bangladesh what has been lost?

Even in the civil war in Bangladesh we went hell for leather against the Hindus, and millions of them died of ran to ensure Bangladesh remained a free muslim state

A good chunk of Kashmir was freed and not only was India blocked from central Asia but we opened a direct route to China

Considering India is 7 times bigger In population and about 3 and a half bigger in land mass, Pakistan has done exceptionally well


Pakistan has also defeated the Afghan enemy multiple times and to defend our strategic interests led to the USSR, NATO, India, USA all being defeated and humiliated in Afghanistan

Now what have afghanis every done for Pakistan
Never respected our sovereignty
Constantly attacked Pakistan since 1940s
Even Pakistan took in millions of Afghans in the 1980s, for what? So they can cause terrorism, robbery and bring drugs and guns



Even now Afghanistan has been freed we could have a peaceful border and afghans still causing fassad and deshatgardi


Pakistan will not forget the Hindu enemy, especially with Kashmir still occupied and Indian Muslims under attack from hindutva

But we will tolerate constant Afghan fassad

You are overestimating our options. Afghanistan has a big geography and it is easy for militants from other countries to hide there besides its own. There are rumors that Al-Qaeda Network might return. India can pay these militants to do what they want to do. Afghanistan will want to trade with Pakistan but it is also open to both Iran and India for its needs.

The Intra-Afghan Dialogue was the way forward in Afghanistan but Trump scrapped it and some in Pakistan foolishly celebrated it.


Pakistani politicians have no thought as usual. What will Khan do? Accept conditions of TTP and the sort? Khan's sons are in UK of-course. Among all politicians, I have respected Khan the most but he had no thought on this count.
 

hussain0216

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Yeah NO! Hindus mostly fled to India. The actual casualties were Muslims fighting other Muslims and the death toll was <= 300k.

Bangladesh is under Indian influence. If you think 1971 was a successful operations, then either your delusional or the cope is strong in you.

See this is what I’m talking, lack of strategic insights and forward leaning understanding of decision making. Pakistanis continue to make these stupids mistakes and then try to twist it around as some genius 5d move.

I recalled reading the piss contest from Pakistanis on how they control some peaks in Kargil. Great! Enjoy those peaks while 4 villages of GB are in control by the Indians that they took from you in 1971. Meanwhile, yeah hooray, we have two peaks.

No any civil war is terrible, it was impossible for us to keep Bangla, we did not have the forces and we could not supply them

But let's be clear the main target of any mass slaughter, was the Hindus


The Hindus ran because they were hunted, it sufficiently reduced the Hindu population enough for Bangladesh to emerge as a free Muslim state as per partition

Not perfect, but atleast a Muslim state, with a government made up of its own people

As opposed to hundreds of millions of idiot Indian Muslims now UTTERLY unrepresented in india
 

hussain0216

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The Afghan people are not your enemy.

Yes they are

They have proven it over and over and over again

And Pakistan cannot continuously deal with the problem of the afghans when we have other issues to deal with Including our own political situation
 

Ag1123

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Our political situation needs rectifying, but the fassad being spread by afghans is not tolerable regardless of the political situation, Pakistan and the Muslim world has bigger enemies to deal with then to constantly turn in wards to always get stuck dealing with afghans or naraz Baloch and them blowing shit up when we need to develop and change for the future of the combined Muslim world

We have now done enough, and we need to selfishly deal with the afghans as a enemy that won't and can't change
Afghans are not the problem, history is your problem.

I told you before, you are probably the most patriotic Pakistani and are probably the best for Pakistan, be that as it may, you can’t undo thousands and thousands of years of history. The people of that area are to going to be sympathetic towards Afghans because they are the same people, just because a state was created 70 something does not mean history just suddenly goes into the dustbins. Instead of vilifying Afghans, find a solution around them, because this war is not a Ukraine-Russia type of war, this is more of a societal/ideological war. The enemy is using the Muslim card and you don’t have anything to counter it, why don’t you start there.
 

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If Punjabis are wiling to share power with the Pashtuns/Afghans in a more balanced way instead of making motorways to every nook and corner of Punjab at the expense of the rest of the country then this problem would vanish.
It's your own provinincial governments job to develop your province, but most of you don't even pay your bills and are blowing up everywhere so can't expect much. It's easy to blame others.

And if sharing power means cucking to Afghanistan and your terrorists then it's better left unshared
 

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