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hussain0216

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Afghans are not the problem, history is your problem.

I told you before, you are probably the most patriotic Pakistani and are probably the best for Pakistan, be that as it may, you can’t undo thousands and thousands of years of history. The people of that area are to going to be sympathetic towards Afghans because they are the same people, just because a state was created 70 something does not mean history just suddenly goes into the dustbins. Instead of vilifying Afghans, find a solution around them, because this war is not a Ukraine-Russia type of war, this is more of a societal/ideological war. The enemy is using the Muslim card and you don’t have anything to counter it, why don’t you start there.

The problem is not too different to your kurd problem

The problem isn't religious although the Afghans might use religion, its ethnic

As you say the tribal areas and it's idiots are in effect Afghans, who unfortunately we got stuck with

The first problem is sovereignty, no state can allow it's sovereignty to be compromised, not us, not turkey, not anyone, so whilst they can vote for who they want in local elections, Pakistan can't allow deluded or seditious Afghans to make claims on Pakistani sovereign land or disrespect it's borders

Then the need to obey the law in it's entirety and must be subject to taxes like any other citizen

They cannot resort to terrorism and start murdering people


Pakistan really isn't asking for much, the tribal areas and the Afghans can't follow simple rules of behaviour and citizenship
 

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You are overestimating our options. Afghanistan has a big geography and it is easy for militants from other countries to hide there besides its own. There are rumors that Al-Qaeda Network might return. India can pay these militants to do what they want to do. Afghanistan will want to trade with Pakistan but it is also open to both Iran and India for its needs.

The Intra-Afghan Dialogue was the way forward in Afghanistan but Trump scrapped it and some in Pakistan foolishly celebrated it.


Pakistani politicians have no thought as usual. What will Khan do? Accept conditions of TTP and the sort? Khan's sons are in UK of-course. Among all politicians, I have respected Khan the most but he had no thought on this count.
Anytime we see sunni/wahabbi/talibunny/ ISIS/Daesh militancy…….its a fair bet da US is behind it no?

Saddam must go
Qazzafi must go
Assad must go
Hamraan must go…..

Manifestations of dis beauty no?

Now reduced to looking out to our west to prevent mass reversions within no?

I’m watching everything here……

Ghareeb di maut/ qaum di wafaat not goin cut da mustard no more.

Yous gotta lift da bar a bit more.

Every regional man n his dog involved in our convert/ bankrupt musings bhai, from a regional wheeler n dealer pov no?

Can’t figure it out, good luck👍

And let me add, IK had no solutions at all. You got one thing right.
 

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Pakistan did, buy it had very little choice

The Afghan Republic, plus India, U.S, NATO represented a long term strategic threat on our western border that was Intolerable and had to be dealt with

But they pose a security risk, not a strategic threat
The security risk of today, will be a strategic threat of tomorrow.

Taliban has unending supply of fighters. Any amount of damage, destruction, casualty doesn't impact them. They are answerable to none and have apetitite to fight for next several decades.

Fighting with them is just like hitting your head on the rock. British, USSR and US learned it the hard way, with Pakistan it won't be much different. Taliban is ready to fight for next 10,20,30 years - Pakistan should not go that way.
 

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@CPTPLANET tu vekh rya si k ae els changaiz da putter sadda pendu hae ga?…..😝👌

Yous noticing lot of our base-munntt pendu out west hiding behind assumed identities?

Oh bhaaaannnchhhh….😝

Pendu becomes Irani turani over nightt ….or gareeb da putter turns erthaghrool ghazi on da dime, and third one wanna become GCC dalit prince…..😝👌

Ithhay gareeban di laattry chal re hae gee…..😝👍

I’ve long given up bro……it’s much too late now.
 
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It's your own provinincial governments job to develop your province, but most of you don't even pay your bills and are blowing up everywhere so can't expect much. It's easy to blame others.

And if sharing power means cucking to Afghanistan and your terrorists then it's better left unshared
Is the new Lahore to Rawalpindi motorway via Sialkot being built out of provincial budget? Same tactics being used since displacing Nawabzada Liaquat Ali of gobbling up federal budget. That is why East Pakistan left us. When will you grow up and think outside Punjab?
 

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𝐈𝐧𝐝𝐢𝐚-𝐀𝐟𝐠𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐧 𝐀𝐥𝐥𝐢𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐞: 𝐑𝐞𝐠𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐚𝐥 𝐓𝐞𝐫𝐫𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐦, 𝐈𝐧𝐝𝐢𝐚'𝐬 𝐏𝐫𝐨𝐱𝐲 𝐖𝐚𝐫𝐟𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐏𝐚𝐤𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐧'𝐬 𝐒𝐞𝐜𝐮𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐲 𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐬

There has long existed incontrovertible evidence substantiating the support extended to Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) by the Research and Analysis Wing (RAW), the intelligence agency of 1ndia.

1ndia's clandestine strategy of fostering terrorism to advance its geopolitical agenda has profoundly undermined regional stability.

This destabilizing policy has disproportionately afflicted Pakistan, which has borne the brunt of 1ndia's malevolent designs.

Utilizing #Afghanistan as a strategic proxy, 1ndia orchestrates its subversive activities, thereby exacerbating tensions and perpetuating conflict in the region.

In November 2020, #Pakistan submitted a meticulously compiled dossier to the United Nations Security Council (UNSC), presenting incontrovertible evidence that 1ndia was underwriting the activities of Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) to orchestrate attacks within Pakistani territory.

Furthermore, in December 2022, Pakistan presented yet another comprehensive dossier to the UNSC, furnishing concrete proof of 1ndia's financial and material support to a multitude of terrorist organizations operating in Pakistan, including TTP.

RAW not only supports TTP but also actively backs other terrorist proxies in Balochistan and Gilgit Baltistan. It is no coincidence that both TTP and Baloch terrorist groups frequently target Chinese interests in Pakistan.

Recently, the Islamic State Khorasan Province (ISKP) in #Afghanistan has similarly focused its attacks on #Chinese nationals and their interests.

Pakistan has valiantly endured a protracted and arduous struggle against terrorism for over two decades. With the unwavering support of the entire nation, Pakistan's military has effectively dismantled numerous terrorist networks within its borders.

However, the recent surge in terrorist incidents underscores a critical reality: while the physical infrastructure and large-scale assemblies of terrorists have been successfully neutralized through a series of military operations, the primary source of terrorism—foreign and external support for these groups—persists. To address this enduring threat, Pakistan has launched Project Azm-e-Istehkam, aimed at eradicating external sponsorship of terrorism.

Recently, former CIA Data analyses- Sarah Adams TPA Sarah disclosed on the Shawn Ryan Show that 1ndia pays $10 million to the Afghan Taliban to facilitate assassinations of Kashmiri, Khalistani, and other leaders across Pakistan, utilizing its TTP & Baloch terrorist network for these nefarious operations.

A recently detained TTP Commander Nasrullah alias Maulvi Mansoor while narrating his story revealed that before joining Tehreek-e- Taliban Pakistan, he had been taking part in subversive activities from the platform of Baitullah Mehsud and fled to Afghanistan during Operation Zarb-e-Azb.

He was serving as the head of the Tehreek-e- Taliban Pakistan Defence Shura and was centrally controlling all of its military, financial and administrative affairs when arrested.

He further disclosed that the 1ndian agency, RAW, managed the nexus of BLA Majeed Brigade and TTP Khawarij under the complete patronage of the Afghan Taliban.

The main objective of the RAW was to build terrorist hideouts in Khuzdar and to sabotage Pak-#China Friendship and CPEC.

TTP and BLA’s link is also aimed at building a narrative of missing persons by carrying out activities for kidnapping for ransom. Maulvi Mansoor said the entire leadership of TTP including Maulvi Noor Wali Mehsud and BLA Majeed Brigade Commander Bashir Zeb are hiding in Afghanistan and are enjoying full support of the Afghan government.

The apprehension of 1ndian spies has further illuminated India's hostile intentions toward Pakistan. India's interference and support for militant groups in Balochistan are well-documented.

Moreover, RAW's involvement in the Johar Town bomb blast has also been exposed, underscoring the extent of 1ndia's clandestine operations aimed at destabilizing Pakistan.

Anti-Pakistan activities have consistently escalated, irrespective of the government in Kabul, often fueled by India's attempts to destabilize Pakistan.

During the Karzai and Ashraf Ghani administrations, 1ndia's RAW, with connections to up to 34 Afghan governors, extensively utilized Afghan territory.

The NDS, operating as an extension of RAW, maintained 21 facilities in Rajasthan, 1ndia, and approximately 66 training centers in Afghanistan, primarily targeting Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan.

The Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and its affiliates concentrated on KP and GB, while Baloch separatist forces focused on Karachi and southern Balochistan.

In 2018, the creation of BRAS unified several Baloch terrorist organizations, with the primary objective of targeting Chinese interests in Pakistan, particularly in Gwadar and Karachi, where Kulbhushan Jadhav was apprehended. TTP and BRAS subsequently collaborated to intensify their destabilizing efforts within Pakistan.

1ndia is providing financial backing to terrorist organizations and dissident groups in Pakistan, including Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and Daesh. Chuck Hagel, the former U.S. Defense Secretary, has publicly acknowledged that 1ndia exploits Afghanistan as a staging ground to orchestrate terrorist attacks against Pakistan.

Pakistan had hoped that the takeover by the Afghan Taliban would lead to a decline in terrorist incidents; regrettably, the opposite has occurred, with a rise in such activities. The Afghan Taliban now pose a significant threat not only to Pakistan but also to neighboring countries like #China and #Russia, and to the broader international community, as they equip, finance, and provide safe havens to terrorist organizations such as TTP & AL Qaeda.

The 33rd report of the monitoring committee assigned to 1S1S and other terrorist groups, presented to the UN Security Council, unveils startling information about the continued presence of numerous terrorist organizations on Afghan soil.

For Pakistan, this report confirms its long-standing fears regarding terrorism and poses significant concerns for regional and international stakeholders. The study details the multifaceted support that Daesh provides to TTP, enhancing its capacity for hostile actions against Pakistan.

- It is critically important to dismantle the detrimental alliance between 1ndia and Afghanistan, which perpetuates instability and terrorism across the region. Afghanistan, bound by the terms of the Doha Agreement, must be held accountable for permitting its territory to serve as a launching ground for terrorist activities.

The international community cannot afford to overlook any nation's involvement in financing terrorism. In light of 1ndia's apparent transition into a state sponsor of terrorism, global condemnation is essential, accompanied by concerted efforts to mitigate its adverse impacts on regional stability and peace.

Disrupting this alliance is essential for nurturing stability and prosperity in affected regions and beyond.

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Just 2 months back Pakistani investigators and The Guardian were saying, India used some so called sleeper cells out of UAE

Now it has turned to the Afghan Taliban being paid

Probably few months later, it will be someone else. Just point the fingers all around I guess
 

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Yes they are

They have proven it over and over and over again

And Pakistan cannot continuously deal with the problem of the afghans when we have other issues to deal with Including our own political situation
You know instead of this hate, you can influence them and maybe utilize them to further your goals.
@CPTPLANET tu vekh rya si k ae els changaiz da putter sadda pendu hae ga?…..😝👌

Yous noticing lot of our base-munntt pendu out west hiding behind assumed identities?

Oh bhaaaannnchhhh….😝

Pendu becomes Irani turani over nightt ….or gareeb da putter turns erthaghrool ghazi on da dime, and third one wanna become GCC dalit prince…..😝👌

Ithhay gareeban di laattry chal re hae gee…..😝👍

I’ve long given up bro……it’s much too late now.
I hardly speak Punjabi and it’s even harder reading it in Roman text.
 

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Is the new Lahore to Rawalpindi motorway via Sialkot being built out of provincial budget? Same tactics being used since displacing Nawabzada Liaquat Ali of gobbling up federal budget. That is why East Pakistan left us. When will you grow up and think outside Punjab?
I'm not from Punjab but I see nothing wrong with. Punjab and Sindh (mainly Karachi) are the most stable parts of the country providing the most economic input.

KP and Balochistan are riddled with terrorism and many of the locals sympathise with it and don't even pay their electricity bills because they think it's their right to get everything for free.
 

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I'm not from Punjab but I see nothing wrong with. Punjab and Sindh (mainly Karachi) are the most stable parts of the country providing the most economic input.

KP and Balochistan are riddled with terrorism and many of the locals sympathise with it and don't even pay their electricity bills because they think it's their right to get everything for free.
They are riddled with terrorism because for the last 75 years most of the federal funds were diverted to Punjab. First the army takes the lions share then after that Punjab takes the rest and minimum amount is left for the rest of the three provinces. That is the main reason that all the three provinces are against the Punjab and want freedom.
 

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They are riddled with terrorism because for the last 75 years most of the federal funds were diverted to Punjab. First the army takes the lions share then after that Punjab takes the rest and minimum amount is left for the rest of the three provinces. That is the main reason that all the three provinces are against the Punjab and want freedom.

Those areas are the most stable, the people most receptive to development and most open to new people in or traveling in their areas

The most stable areas will see the most development, this is true for any place on earth


You have areas full of backwards jahils who will murder barbers or picnickers or random people traveling through their areas and you think the world will waste money investing in those area's???

Pakistan is a sovereign state, any donkey who doesn't get his way suddenly can't randomly act seditious and get away with it
 

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They are riddled with terrorism because for the last 75 years most of the federal funds were diverted to Punjab. First the army takes the lions share then after that Punjab takes the rest and minimum amount is left for the rest of the three provinces. That is the main reason that all the three provinces are against the Punjab and want freedom.
These are just excuses tbh, they are riddled with terrorism because many can't get out of their ethno nationalist mindset and causing chaos.
 

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Per their flag design, are TTP under ISKP?


No they aren't, they commonly clash with them. They have multiple flags btw and sometimes even use Afghan Taliban flag.

TTP would shift under ISKP framework though i think if it gets fully abandoned by the Afghans
 

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