Ex-Singapore Diplomat analysis on Pakistan with Pakistani journalists

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Nonsense thread.

"Singaporean" analysts should be cross checked for their actual origin. Many are Indian diaspora, hence have inherited the same inferiority complex that their relatives have. There is one that Al Jazeera kept wheeling out during the Iran-US war. You could see how much pain he was in when forced to utter the word "Pakistan".

Chinese origin, Malaysia origin and white singaporean citizens talk objectively

Should we not look at the contents of what is being said and evaluate it for its accuracy rather than deflect?

A lot of what he said is actually true, keep in mind he has served in Pakistan and narrated a story about it.

He lists the fact that it's a highly feudalistic society which is 100% true, feudalism being eliminated in nations is often the first step towards creating an organic middle class that allows for economic generation, better politics instead of feudals, organic nationalist sentiment and better meritocracy.

He also says the military has maintained this status quo hence calls it part of the problem but also says it holds the country together.

This is all true.

 

[RescueRanger]

Should we not look at the contents of what is being said and evaluate it for its accuracy rather than deflect?

The only one here that needs to do some introspection is you with your L takes in many threads when it comes to Pakistan and her future.

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

The only one here that needs to do some introspection is you with your L takes in many threads when it comes to Pakistan and her future.

I would say the same for you respectfully. I don't run on blind optimism which is closer to wilful ignorance. Our condition is free to see for the entire world, nothing to celebrate.

My pessimism is rational, evidential and justified, can you say the same of your optimism?

 

[RescueRanger]

I would say the same for you respectfully. I don't run on blind optimism which is closer to wilful ignorance.

Come now, do get down from that horse of yours and stop judging anyone who doesn't share the same opinion as you as a feckless halfwit.

Our condition is free to see for the entire world, nothing to celebrate.

Our condition is fine, we don't need a Singaporean has been to tell us what is up and what is down.

My pessimism is rational, evidential and justified, can you say the same of your optimism?

Read what you typed three more times and you will find it may have sounded better in your heard.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Should we not look at the contents of what is being said and evaluate it for its accuracy rather than deflect?

A lot of what he said is actually true, keep in mind he has served in Pakistan and narrated a story about it.

He lists the fact that it's a highly feudalistic society which is 100% true, feudalism being eliminated in nations is often the first step towards creating an organic middle class that allows for economic generation, better politics instead of feudals, organic nationalist sentiment and better meritocracy.

He also says the military has maintained this status quo hence calls it part of the problem but also says it holds the country together.

This is all true.

Though he didn't want to blame Afghanistan/India for sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan. I mean Indians can blame their birth on ISI sometimes so this is nothing.

 

[VCheng]

Come now, do get down from that horse of yours and stop judging anyone who doesn't share the same opinion as you as a feckless halfwit.

Our condition is fine, we don't need a Singaporean has been to tell us what is up and what is down.

Read what you typed three more times and you will find it may have sounded better in your heard.

Some people are finding it hard to believe that the sun still rises just fine every morning after April 10, 2022.

 

[RescueRanger]

That is true. Though he didn't want to blame Afghanistan/India for sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan. I mean Indians can blame their birth on ISI sometimes so this is nothing.

No because that would too convenient. Instead we Pakistanis are constantly fed this chooran by foreign opinionators about "introspection" and out shortcomings.



I remember attending a talk by Professor Zhou Rong (Ex. Pakistan Bureau Chief - Chinese Guang Ming Daily) where he used the phrase "Validation deficit" for Pakistani Intelligentsia.

 

[RescueRanger]

Some people are finding it hard to believe that the sun still rises just fine every morning after April 10, 2022.

Hahaha this made me laugh out loud.

 

[Hopefully Pessimistic]

Some people are finding it hard to believe that the sun still rises just fine every morning after April 10, 2022.

Some people are so deep in their ignorance they think of everything in the lens of PTI, and nothing beyond that.

You've just proved my point exactly since I'm extremely anti-PTI for its pro-Taliban/Afghan stance and religious weaponisation yet you couldnt help trying to loop it back to that.

There is no difference between you and the youthiyas. Two sides of the same butt cheek.

 

[VCheng]

I remember attending a talk by Professor Zhou Rong (Ex. Pakistan Bureau Chief - Chinese Guang Ming Daily) where he used the phrase "Validation deficit" for Pakistani Intelligentsia.

It is not even that. There is a reason I always say that Pakistan is the way it is because that is EXACTLY the way we actually want it to be, and not as we claim we want it to be. Whether it makes any sense to outsiders is irrelevant. I understand.