Exclusive: Pakistan and Indonesia closing in on jets and drones defence deal, sources say

[K2RULEZ]

Reuters has been massively off with its Pakistan reports this year. The otherwise reliable publication has produced a slew of reports that turned out to be either greatly exaggerated or completely off. Not sure if certain sources are deliberately feeding them false information but they have been off the mark too many times with their Pakistan reports this year.

The JF-17 sale has been very successful to other nations. Some nations that showed interest are still in the process of decision making to buy a platform.

By the way, Indonesia is more tilted towards India.

 

[Sinnerman108]

Indonesia is on verge of economic collapse, and a huge one at that !

I don't fathom them buying any thing for any foreseeable future.

 

[Indos]

The JF-17 sale has been very successful to other nations. Some nations that showed interest are still in the process of decision making to buy a platform.

By the way, Indonesia is more tilted towards India.

Why India becomes in your mind ?

We have KF21 program and already with 42 Rafales order.

Buying JF17, F15EX, J10C will make the Airforce is not efficient and not helping Indonesia Aerospace Industry sector. This is why we dont heard anything about those mentioned planes where so many foreign anallist already think we have ordered all of them.....

 

[SBD-3]

The JF-17 sale has been very successful to other nations. Some nations that showed interest are still in the process of decision making to buy a platform.

By the way, Indonesia is more tilted towards India.

It’s not really about their tilt toward India, anyway. The more interesting question is whether Indonesia is building a coherent long-term fighter force or simply accumulating platforms from different suppliers. Indonesians are reportedly moving toward the J-10CE for induction, but they already operate a remarkably diverse mix of aircraft, with different origins, logistics chains, weapons ecosystems, training pipelines, and support requirements.

I’m not entirely sure how suitable the J-10CE—or even the JF-17—would be for Indonesia in that context. Both platforms come with their own data-link architectures, mission systems, weapons integration requirements, maintenance ecosystems, and broader infrastructure implications. Introducing another fighter type therefore isn’t simply a matter of acquiring airframes; it potentially adds another layer of complexity to an already fragmented force structure.

Indonesia’s priority should arguably be to think through its strategic fighter mix for the next few decades before making further acquisitions. What roles need to be covered, how many fighter families can they realistically sustain, how should those platforms be networked, and which weapons and support ecosystems do they want to standardize around? Buying aircraft from everyone and everywhere may provide short-term capability, but it isn’t necessarily a good force-multiplication strategy. At some point, interoperability, commonality, sustainment, and network integration become just as important as the individual performance of the aircraft.

 

[K2RULEZ]

It’s not really about their tilt toward India, anyway. The more interesting question is whether Indonesia is building a coherent long-term fighter force or simply accumulating platforms from different suppliers. Indonesians are reportedly moving toward the J-10CE for induction, but they already operate a remarkably diverse mix of aircraft, with different origins, logistics chains, weapons ecosystems, training pipelines, and support requirements.

I’m not entirely sure how suitable the J-10CE—or even the JF-17—would be for Indonesia in that context. Both platforms come with their own data-link architectures, mission systems, weapons integration requirements, maintenance ecosystems, and broader infrastructure implications. Introducing another fighter type therefore isn’t simply a matter of acquiring airframes; it potentially adds another layer of complexity to an already fragmented force structure.

Indonesia’s priority should arguably be to think through its strategic fighter mix for the next few decades before making further acquisitions. What roles need to be covered, how many fighter families can they realistically sustain, how should those platforms be networked, and which weapons and support ecosystems do they want to standardize around? Buying aircraft from everyone and everywhere may provide short-term capability, but it isn’t necessarily a good force-multiplication strategy. At some point, interoperability, commonality, sustainment, and network integration become just as important as the individual performance of the aircraft.

We could also argue that for an air force already so diverse and fragmented, adding JF-17 or J-10C wouldn't make much difference.