Federal cabinet gives nod to imposition of emergency in KP; summary sent to president

[Watandar]

I am aware I just want to see how far these guys will lie to cover for their favourite establishment.

They are bad faith trolls whose objective is not to convince you, but to exhaust you by repeating the same talking points in various styles. If you have ever argued with Zionists, you will notice the same patterns.

 

[Desprado123]

So what else is NEW? Wasn't every major anti-establishment party and its leaders in jail after successive military coups of 1958, 1977, 1999?

No. They had person to take gurantees and sort out and get middle. PTI did not let anyone do that otherwise this would not have happened. If any talked to establishment they would consider that person traitor and wanted him or her dead on spot.

 

[Forsvaret]

No. They had person to take gurantees and sort out and get middle.

Guarantees, sort out and get middle just so military overlords "let" the imprisoned political leaders out of jail and "allow" them to run in politics again?

PTI did not let anyone do that otherwise this would not have happened.

PTI not submitting to military overlords to get its political leaders out of jail is somehow a "bad" thing?

 

[Desprado123]

Guarantees, sort out and get middle just so military overlords "let" the imprisoned political leaders out of jail and "allow" them to run in politics again?


PTI not submitting to military overlords to get its political leaders out of jail is somehow a "bad" thing?

Lol. PTI is biggest askari brand.

 

[Forsvaret]

Lol. PTI is biggest askari brand.

PTI is the biggest Askari brand.
Also, PTI leaders are in jail because they are NOT submitting to Askari demands.
You seriously can't make this shit up lol

 

[Mufasa]

Bring evidence where I bragged over anyone getting killed regardless of ethnicities?

You are a kuni bacha. I am alhamdulliah a patriotic Pakistani unlike you. Stop bitching and get some testosterone boosters.

I am an Indian Hindu and have nothing to do with the Pathan-Punjabi dispute in Pakistan. But let me tell you this: if you Pakistani Pathans do not get over your false sense of superiority over Pakistani Punjabis, they are bound to hit you even harder than you can imagine. Neither Iran nor Afghanistan will be able to help you.

Thousands of Afghan Pathan refugees live in India, yet they never display this false sense of superiority the way you Pakistani Pathans do over Pakistani Punjabis. Even Baloch separatists, who want to secede from Pakistan, do not show a false sense of superiority over Pakistani Punjabis. i dont know how accurate i am but That’s just my observation,

Bengalis were able to overpower Pakistan because they were in the majority and had full-fledged support from India, you pakistani pathans dont have that luxury

 

[I*R*A]

Kabul and Kandahar are jumping with joy cause we just gave them a larger breathing space to operate and maneuver in KP and FATA, and access to a larger human resources pool to recruit their proxies from.

This is not true, they (kabul) wanted TTP to find safe havens within Pakistan, they wanted TTP to establish control on some areas / towns within Pakistan and move there. And TTP has been trying to do that with its scattered sporadic attacks. All the while, as expected, KPK civilian government had its head up their rears, could not prioritize and understand what is important for their political future and like the idiots they are, they sacrificed their government for a terrorist organization, intentionally or unintentionally, does not matter.

For the time being the apparent purpose of this move is to remove that breathing space for TTP and refuse them any safe havens, the hidden agenda of PTI's rival political parties may have succeeded too but then in all honesty and sincerity, that is a PTI failure, they cannot blame others for it and claim victimhood.

 

[Forsvaret]

For the time being the apparent purpose of this move is to remove that breathing space for TTP and refuse them any safe havens, the hidden agenda of PTI's rival political parties may have succeeded too but then in all honesty and sincerity, that is a PTI failure, they cannot blame others for it and claim victimhood.

You're absolutely "right". When PTI is being successful in politics, it's all due to military establishment's blessings. And when PTI is losing political capital, it is due the party's own failures. You can't make this shit up!

 

[I*R*A]

You're absolutely "right". When PTI is being successful in politics, it's all due to military establishment's blessings. And when PTI is losing political capital, it is due the party's own failures. You can't make this shit up!

I have always said that PTI would have won more than 35 seats in 2013, but somehow the results did not make any sense. Since 2013 to date, PTI had many lessons to learn but sadly, they did not instead kept committing stupidity. When foul is the rule of the game, you play foul, till you get in a strong position where you can change the rules to fair play. Not that hard to understand. But no lets marry Reham khan, because that makes sense and is necessary to bring reforms and much needed changes ..

 

[Cipher212]

You click on any of these boxes and you get only the enlarged box. There is no link to the actual media/newspaper that published the claimed news.
Don't try to cheat. These boxes might be as fake as a typical yo*thia.
Please provide the links and not the fake/made-up screenshots.

Don't cowardly run away!!!
Or else I'll chase and disgrace you for forgery.

You are the one committing forgery here buddy you haven't provided a single proof for your own claims. Even if you were telling the truth that clicking the box is not working for you, like I said literally go and ask the same questions to ANY LLM that has a research mode or can do internet search and it will literally scour the entire Internet to try and prove you right (it has confirmation bias towards the users stance)

Also, the box totally works as tested on my phone and laptop. You are such a bad liar.



Ab shabaash BACHAY Chalo hammay source do for your claim that Afridi and PTI was working with the TTP or was dealing drugs or just add me to your block list to avoid the humiliation.

 

[Forsvaret]

When foul is the rule of the game, you play foul, till you get in a strong position where you can change the rules to fair play.

Imran Khan as a cricketer already did that by bringing neutral umpires in international cricket:

And then he tried to bring the same neutrality in politics and now resides in prison for this "crime".

 

[I*R*A]

And then he tried to bring the same neutrality in politics and now resides in prison for this "crime".

No he did not. He chose to remain stubborn and not understand the game. If there was no VONC, it very much seemed that PTI would lose the next elections. VONC was a God gifted opportunity to capitalize on, it resulted in huge rise in sympathy for PTI / IK. It was just a matter of 1.5 years and PTI could have been back with simple majority. PTI's political opponents had committed a political suicide, but as it goes with PTI ... what we saw was impatience, immaturity and stupid actions at part of PTI. Mistake after mistake, stupidity after stupidity, haste and inability to see the bigger picture and decide for the long term. If it was me, I would have thrown big mouths like Murad Saeed from a bridge to drown, instead them taking the whole movement down with them.

The biggest thugs in Pakistan's politics are Sharif dynasty, but you will never see them appoint their thugs to positions of prominence. Unlike PTI.

 

[Cipher212]

No he did not. He chose to remain stubborn and not understand the game. If there was no VONC, it very much seemed that PTI would lose the next elections. VONC was a God gifted opportunity to capitalize on, it resulted in huge rise in sympathy for PTI / IK. It was just a matter of 1.5 years and PTI could have been back with simple majority. PTI's political opponents had committed a political suicide, but as it goes with PTI ... what we saw was impatience, immaturity and stupid actions at part of PTI. Mistake after mistake, stupidity after stupidity, haste and inability to see the bigger picture and decide for the long term. If it was me, I would have thrown big mouths like Murad Saeed from a bridge to drown, instead them taking the whole movement down with them.

The biggest thugs in Pakistan's politics are Sharif dynasty, but you will never see them appoint their thugs to positions of prominence. Unlike PTI.

All thing durust and if Kursi is the outcome, then yes, IK was a terrible politician. However I think he has done something far greater than build roads and bridges (those are important too however) which is to really unmask the military in the eyes of the general public.

Those of us lucky enough to receive an education in English and access external sources outside of the reach of the ISPR mafia were able to figure it out much sooner but IK's shenanigans + advent of 3G/4G internet + TikTok/Insta has really blown it out of the water for them.

Chahe jitne bhi digital channels ISPR walay khulwaye, jinnay marzi ISPR internships karaye, it's not working in their favour. Like the current chief is probably one of the most insulted men in Pak history, even among army families hes despised. Nothing good about him.

Just look at this forum. This is the GARH of pro-Army Pakistanis, idhar haalat dekhein, you couldn't create any thread without Imran Khan being mentioned either positively or negatively. The general population is even more anti-army and they care ZILCH about anything fauj-eets cry about here because they've got no clue what 'BLA' or 'TTP' even stands for.

I'm not saying that this amounts to anything. Honestly every single Pakistani can hate Asim Munir and it'll make no difference, as long as he has his namaloom afraad, tinted Vigos and a few men with G3s, nothing out of his reach.

 

[I*R*A]

All thing durust and if Kursi is the outcome, then yes, IK was a terrible politician. However I think he has done something far greater than build roads and bridges (those are important too however) which is to really unmask the military in the eyes of the general public.

Those of us lucky enough to receive an education in English and access external sources outside of the reach of the ISPR mafia were able to figure it out much sooner but IK's shenanigans + advent of 3G/4G internet + TikTok/Insta has really blown it out of the water for them.

Chahe jitne bhi digital channels ISPR walay khulwaye, jinnay marzi ISPR internships karaye, it's not working in their favour. Like the current chief is probably one of the most insulted men in Pak history, even among army families hes despised. Nothing good about him.

Just look at this forum. This is the GARH of pro-Army Pakistanis, idhar haalat dekhein, you couldn't create any thread without Imran Khan being mentioned either positively or negatively. The general population is even more anti-army and they care ZILCH about anything fauj-eets cry about here because they've got no clue what 'BLA' or 'TTP' even stands for.

I'm not saying that this amounts to anything. Honestly every single Pakistani can hate Asim Munir and it'll make no difference, as long as he has his namaloom afraad, tinted Vigos and a few men with G3s, nothing out of his reach.

Pakistan Army is an institution and Asim Munir is nevertheless a mortal man. Nothing is permanent and constant. Nawaz was thrown out of PM house, he was about to be hanged, but the fkr came back and became PM again.

There is time to shut up and introspect and then there is time to act. IK thought he had mastered Pakistan's politics and became undisputed champion, while he did not even understand "lotay" will remain "lotay". PTI was just high on "Hum pathan hain" hormone, the result, lost KPK too. Lesson that should be learnt >>>>> Never ever go full retard. There was no point in turning people against their own army, most Pakistanis who did not like him were sympathetic to him after VONC, but then again he had to prove a point and could not wait. IK should have learnt from his first divorce, who he is dealing with and what kind of politics they do, but nope.

 

[flyingorca]

I used to think like you, then someone said to me "why right does the Queen of England have to so much land? A tribe has the exact same right". Thier ancestors fought for that land and claimed it as thier own - no different to the Queen of England.

I have no issue with mining and REM extraction. I am all in favour. What I am disgusted by in that picture is Asim Munir and his extra constitutional over reach. Shehbaz Sharif has every right to be selling those minerals - Asim Munir does not.

Wherever natural resources are extracted, the common man is screwed. Norway and Libya are the only exceptions that come to mind.

I would say we should try to learn from thier example. Where the natural resources of a land are extracted, the whole nation should see maximum benefit.

1. Refined products should be sold not raw materials (where possible). This brings in more revenue and generates multiple supporting industries.

2. Those who's lands it comes out of should be stakeholders not just compensated. If everyone working on infrastructure projects and gas in Balochistan was Baloch, there would not be an insurgencym

3. The revenue generated from finite resources should be invested for the future, not spent on the present. See Norway and Dubai for excellent examples.

Now I'm not foolish enough to think PTI was ever going to deliver this Nirvana, but I suspect they'd have stolen less than Shebaz Sharif. Even showbaz is going to to watch his fingers around Asim Munir.

So you are justifying Tribal system in a sovereign republic state by giving queen of England analogy? Great.... so basically state within state system with their own laws. This system is no different from vederas or a Cultist society.

The minerals deal happened because of his diplomacy with US and China.
Mind you China has a big monopoly on minerals export, so good luck trying to bypass their approval.

No, common man is not screwed. The common man had absolute ZERO input in creation of those natural resources. Just like tribesmen living near coastal area has no right to claim entire costal area nor economical developments. They should be merely compensated for relocation and thats it.

Okay, thats what I am saying. The whole nation should benifit not just a tribe or a village that happened to be near natural resources.

1. On theory yes thats the best method, but practically its not possible for now.
For example, processing these rear earth require heavy investment close to a billion dollars and tech giants care about their profits so if they dont get low ball offer then they will simply go somewhere else.

2. Only if they own the land.
Tribal system with their own laws should be abolished in Pakistan. Otherwise if you want to play this tribal game then Afgonis are waiting to claim half of Pakistan as their lost tribe that they would like to have it back.


3. Dubai became rich by making deals with US. Which nation do you suggest Pakistan should sell its natural resources to to become rich like UAE? Yemen? Afghanistan? Or Iran? Because you know America is the evil empire controlled by the zios
My friend its not just that easy for a nation to make a furtune by selling its natural resources. Thats why GCC cant break out of its dependency on US. Mind you Iran is trying to replace GCC but the buyer has its own terms and conditions.