Federal cabinet gives nod to imposition of emergency in KP; summary sent to president

[flyingorca]

are you sure? are you a scholar? Weren't caliphs elected? Did their children become rulers? What does Amru hum shura baniya hum mean?

Elected by small group of companions and tribal leaders. There was no public election which was my point. I have yet to come across a single decision of prophet which relied on public's opinion instead of his companions.
But it seems like its a full time hobby of PTI cult to change and twist facts.

 

[hussain0216]

Unforgivable MISTAKE of an "institution" that calls itself the "State of Pakistan" & which has NEVER faced any accountability for its many faulty policies including loss of East Pakistan in 1971...

Ok it was a mistake,,

Now we know the Afghans are animals, no different to the Hindus

So let's torture their population and throw them out of the country, all of them every last one

Any ethnocentric bullshit needs to be stamped on

And Afghanistan needs to be repeatedly bombed for every mistake them make, until they learn

 

[Forsvaret]

PTI was standing in the way...

PTI will ALWAYS be in the way as long military establishment stays on its current path of ruling the country without TRUE public representation.

 

[hussain0216]

PTI will ALWAYS be in the way as long military establishment stays on its current path of ruling the country without TRUE public representation.

It's over bud, it's over

 

[Forsvaret]

It's over bud, it's over

They (military establishment) thought PPP was over after 10 year of martial law in the country. And yet, PPP easily won the first general elections held after dictator Zia's death in 1988. Same thing happened after dictator Musharraf's 10 year martial law ended with PMLN+PPP coming back in govt & taking oath by him...

 

[flyingorca]

Unforgivable MISTAKE of an "institution" that calls itself the "State of Pakistan" & which has NEVER faced any accountability for its many faulty policies including loss of East Pakistan in 1971...

The biggest mistake in Pakistan's history was not setting East Pakistan free after 1947 independence. The Muslim leaders at that time did not consider a single key factor that the two parts were separated with India right in the middle. Second biggest mistake was imposing minority language Urdu on majority Bangalis in East Pakistan which made them infuriated.
For fk sake East Pakistan was geographically separated by 2500 km, for comparison Azerbaijan is closer to Pakistan. Only super powers or very powerful nations have the capability to defend its geographically divided territories with hostile nations borders.

 

[Goenitz]

Elected by small group of companions and tribal leaders. There was no public election which was my point. I have yet to come across a single decision of prophet which relied on public's opinion instead of his companions.
But it seems like its a full time hobby of PTI cult to change and twist facts.

So, that is the election of that time and age. Those tribal leaders also had a close circle in their tribes. It was a complete chain.

there were many decisions which came outside the core group! What are you saying? like where to camp in Badar!!

 

[flyingorca]

PTI will ALWAYS be in the way as long military establishment stays on its current path of ruling the country without TRUE public representation.

On social media only

 

[Forsvaret]

On social media only

That's what Zia used to say about PPP & Musharraf about PMLN after "crushing" them away from the political scene...

 

[flyingorca]

They (military establishment) thought PPP was over after 10 year of martial law in the country. And yet, PPP easily won the first general elections held after dictator Zia's death in 1988. Same thing happened after dictator Musharraf's 10 year martial law ended with PMLN+PPP coming back in govt & taking oath by him...
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Who is this George guy? Your prophet? Why should we use Goras as example when we have better example of Muslim historical philosophers who supported ideas of military influence in politics.
Yeah we knew along, PTI is a gora worshipping party. They bring new meaning to saaaaar can i be like you saaaar.

 

[flyingorca]

That's what Zia used to say about PPP & Musharraf about PMLN after "crushing" them away from the political scene...

Was their social media 20 to 40 years ago?

 

[Forsvaret]

Why should we use Goras as example when we have better example of Muslim historical philosophers who supported ideas of military influence in politics.

Then why won't military generals simply stand in elections & compete for power with civilian politicians? They do that in other countries including many Muslim ones. Why is military establishment 'holier than thou' in Pakistan?

 

[flyingorca]

So, that is the election of that time and age. Those tribal leaders also had a close circle in their tribes. It was a complete chain.

there were many decisions which came outside the core group! What are you saying? like where to camp in Badar!!

People's mandate never counted ever in Islamic history. Its always been small group of influential figures such as tribal leaders and companions who participated in electing or decision making.
And FYI tribal leaders were never elected by the people.

 

[Forsvaret]

Was their social media 20 to 40 years ago?

No, but there WAS print & electronic media with total blackout of those opposing the martial law of their time (just like it's today for PTI & its many leaders)...

 

[flyingorca]

Then why won't military generals simply stand in elections & compete for power with civilian politicians? They do that in other countries including many Muslim ones. Why is military establishment 'holier than thou' in Pakistan?

Because public mandate has no concept in Islam. The reason why I am bringing Islam which PTI cultists hate is because Imranda used Riyasat e Medina churan to get people's sympathy. If you tell his diehard supporters in KPK that Imran Khan was a secular leader they might kill you for blasphemy because they are brainwashed to believe that Imrand would come back to restore true Riyasat e Medina thats why fauj stopped him on Amreeka's order. Thats how brainwashed his supporters are and need brain infusion at this point.