Genocide of Indigenous Peoples

[Beijingwalker]

I did not. Please check above.

 

[VCheng]

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That refers to a previous post that you were calling true. Please don’t take comments out of context.

 

[Beijingwalker]

That refers to a previous post that you were calling true. Please don’t take comments out of context.

If so why didn't you point out his post was off topic and instead you are trying to help to strengthen his point, but after I answered your question, you are calling my replying post "off the topic"?

 

[VCheng]

If so why didn't you point out his post was off topic and instead you are trying to help to strengthen his point, but after I answered you question, you are calling my replying post "off the topic"?

lol. I said that discussing all the other countries where this happened as you mentioned would be off topic.

 

[Beijingwalker]

lol. I said that discussing all the other countries where this happened as you mentioned would be off topic.

I was just replying to you and your buddy's question, it's the question "off the topic" or the reply "off the topic"? which comes first?

 

[UndercoverJIX]

lol. I said that discussing all the other countries where this happened as you mentioned would be off topic.

Do you always type something else, say something else and actually mean something else?

 

[passer-by]

What? Where did you learn your history and math?

Again, the OP is talking about colonisation of America, which is where the genocide happens. North America is not colonised by 1800s and 1900s.





Most of the genocide were done prior to 1600s, sure there are wars and massacres happened during the convening year between 1800s and 1900s, that scale cannot even remotely compare to the systemic genocide back in 1492, in fact I am pretty sure Chinese Civil War in 1949 kill more Chinese from both side than the amount of Indian killed by White during the entire period of 1800 - 1950.

 

[Beijingwalker]

Again, the OP is talking about colonisation of America, which is where the genocide happens. North America is not colonised by 1800s and 1900s.

wasn't this alone enough being called genocide in just one century?

Between 1800 and 1900, the American Indians lost more than half of their population, and their proportion in the total U.S. population dropped from 10.15% to 0.31%. Throughout the 19th century, while the U.S. population grew by 20-30% every 10 years, the Indian population experienced a precipitous decline.

 

[Beijingwalker]

I am pretty sure Chinese Civil War in 1949 kill more Chinese from both side than the amount of Indian killed by White during the entire period of 1800 - 1950.

Wars happened in big country indeed incur big number casualties, but check out the percentage, did the Chinese population all got all killed off in those wars?

 

[passer-by]

wasn't this alone enough being called genocide in just one century?

There are less than 50,000 killed (with around 375,000 population since 1850) and most of them during war between different Indian tribe.

If you want to call that genocide, then you should also call Chinese Civil War genocide.

 

[Beijingwalker]

If you want to call that genocide, then you should also call Chinese Civil War genocide.

Since when genocide means the same people kill the same people, and all war casualties equate genocides?

 

[passer-by]

Wars happened in big country indeed incur big number casualties, but check out the percentage, did the Chinese population all got all killed off in those wars?

But then did the Native American population all got all killed off in those wars?

If you look at the population spread, The population of Native Indian actually increased 3700 fold since US gain independence

The 1850 Census Enumerator Instructions maintain the same instructions used since the 1790 Census, “Indians not taxed are not to be enumerated in this or any other schedule,” however, in 1860, the instructions for Native Americans start to become more complex. Now, “Indians who have renounced tribal rule, and who under State or Territorial laws exercise the rights of citizens, are to be enumerated,” and were assigned a distinct racial category of “Ind.” Native Americans’ race was determined by their lack of tribal affiliation and U.S. citizenship. Now that Native Americans had been assigned a distinct racial category, their census numbers increase by 3,817%.

Native Americans and the Census | History 90.01: Topics in Digital History

journeys.dartmouth.edu

 

[UndercoverJIX]

19. Genocide (18 U.S.C. 1091)

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19. Genocide (18 U.S.C. 1091)​

Section 1091 of Title 18, United States Code, prohibits genocide whether committed in time of peace or time of war. Genocide is defined in § 1091 and includes violent attacks with the specific intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. There is Federal jurisdiction if the offense is committed within the United States. There is also Federal extraterritorial jurisdiction when the offender is a national of the United States.

 

[passer-by]

Since when genocide means the same people kill the same people, and all war casualties equate genocides?

Then I assume Rwanda Genocides is not a genocide at all, either that or Hutu and Tutsi that was involved in the genocide are not both Rwandan....

 

[Beijingwalker]

But then did the Native American population all got all killed off in those wars?

If you look at the population spread, The population of Native Indian actually increased 37000 fold since US gain independence

Native Americans and the Census | History 90.01: Topics in Digital History

journeys.dartmouth.edu

If they involved on local tribe killing off another tribe entirely, they were also genocides, perfect fit the bill.