Greek media lays out first 24 hours of hypothetical clash with Türkiye

[MMM-E]

While they fantasize about the weapons of 2030, they dismiss the real Turkish Cruise- Ballistic Missiles , kamikaze Drones and Air Defense Systems we show as nothing more than "brochure army"


-- J-600T , TRG-300 , BORA , TAYFUN , SOM , ATMACA , CAKIR , JET-230 , 300-ER
-- ALPAGUT , DELI , SIVRISINEK , MIZRAK , KUZGUN , K-2 , SUPER LIGHTNING
-- KORKUT , SUNGUR , GURZ , HISAR-A/O , SIPER

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while they fantasize about non-existent electronic warfare technology. they dismiss the real Turkish electronic warfare systems we show as nothing more than "brochure army"

-- KORAL-200 next gen mobile Radar Electronic Warfare System
-- ILGAR / ILGAR-2 Communication EW System
-- MILKAR-3A3 V/UHF Communications Electronic Warfare System
-- VURAL Radar Electronic Support and Electronic Attack System
-- ASOJ-23A stand off jammer Aircraft
-- TCG UFUK Electronic Warfare Ship

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while they fantasize about low speed EXOCET Missile. they dismiss the real Turkish supersonic-hypersonic Missiles we show as nothing more than "brochure army"

-- 300-ER air launched supersonic Ballistic Missile with TV seeker
-- TAYFUN Block-3 hypersonic anti-ship Ballistic Missile


They have completely lost touch with the real world

 

[hyperman]

Man are you trolling?

You're here saying "Turkey doesn't have a pre-emptive strike plan". Are you going to tell me Turkey doesn't have plans at all? Maybe you don't even have an army?

And about your obsession with the "status quo". You're parroting the official AKP narrative like a loyal party member that you probably are,there in the United States or Turkey or wherever.

Your convenient bull about a status quo is a façade. Because when your country is pushing relations and making demands,inventing and adding problems on the table the last 10 years,you force us to react. And when we react to defend our own rights,you say "Keep the status quo and nothing happens".

Then you have the audacity to repeat "encouragement from new daddies". You're either brainwashed or willingly following and spreading AKP's propaganda.

Your country is like a bully,who comes and says "Give me your lunch money,give me your bike,I like your shirt,let me have it or there will be trouble",and when the bullied guy reacts you lash out "oh look,your friends are pushing you to fight me,don't be stupid you can't fight me".

You're one of the biggest hypocrites I've ever encountered in my life irl or online.

Where is the news article about all the plans about Turkey launching an offensive operation as a "deterrent" like Israel onto you? That you want to do to Turkiye.

Turkey wants to keep the status quo, you are desperate to break it, b/c you just repeat ND narrative.

 

[MMM-E]

Because errrm that was what they were.

There are strong historical records indicating that both FATIH SULTAN MEHMET HAN and ATATURK following their great victories against the Greeks and the West , declared, "We have avenged Troy "


FATIH SULTAN MEHMET HAN was an intellectual leader capable of reading ancient texts such as Homer's Iliad in their original language.

He viewed himself as the leader of the Asians (the people of Anatolia) and openly declared that, by defeating the Eastern Roman Empire and Europe, he had avenged Troy

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During excavations for Istanbul - Beşiktaş Metro, approximately 78 Altai Turkic-type kurgan tombs dating back to 3500 BC and two statues were found

In other words, it proves that Turks were present in Istanbul even 5,500 years ago.

 

[Anatolia]

There are strong historical records indicating that both FATIH SULTAN MEHMET HAN and ATATURK following their great victories against the Greeks and the West , declared, "We have avenged Troy "


FATIH SULTAN MEHMET HAN was an intellectual leader capable of reading ancient texts such as Homer's Iliad in their original language.

He viewed himself as the leader of the Asians (the people of Anatolia) and openly declared that, by defeating the Eastern Roman Empire and Europe, he had avenged Troy

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During excavations for Istanbul - Beşiktaş Metro, approximately 78 Altai Turkic-type kurgan tombs dating back to 3500 BC and two statues were found

In other words, it proves that Turks were present in Istanbul even 5,500 years ago.

The early Ottomans genuinely saw themselves as the continuation of the Roman imperial tradition. For them, Rome was not an ethnicity but a political and cultural inheritance. This is why Ottoman rulers used titles like Kayser‑i Rum, meaning Caesar of Rome, and why the lands of Anatolia were consistently referred to as Rum.

The Seljuks before them followed the same pattern. Their state was literally called the Sultanate of Rum, and many scholars, poets, and officials of the time were known as Rumi, meaning from the Roman lands. In the medieval Islamic world, Rum always referred to the Eastern Roman sphere, not to a modern national identity.

When the Eastern Roman Empire fell in the 1400s, there was no modern Greek national identity. The people of the region identified as Romans (Rhomaioi), Orthodox Christians, or by local community names. The idea of a Greek nation in the modern sense developed much later, especially in the 1700s, influenced by Western European intellectuals who romanticized ancient Greece and encouraged a new identity to oppose Ottoman rule.

Various communities in the region, including Arvanites, Vlachs, and other Orthodox populations, became part of this emerging national identity during the 18th and 19th centuries. They were not Greeks in the modern national sense during the medieval or early Ottoman periods, but they later adopted the identity as it formed.

So the historical picture is straightforward -- Ottomans and Seljuks saw themselves as Roman inheritors, Rum was the dominant identity in Anatolia, and the modern Greek identity emerged centuries later under Western influence and became a unifying label for diverse Orthodox communities.

 

[MMM-E]

Turkey wants to keep the status quo, you are desperate to break it, b/c you just repeat ND narrative.

Actually, if it weren't for the Greeks' excessively fanciful and unrealistic demands, no problems would arise

But those who constantly inflict these dreamers as a scourge upon the Turks every 50 years are also to blame ( the British , French and now Israel )

1922 , 1974 and now 2026
They ask for a "Turkish slap" every 50 years.

Whoever supports them, Greeks are ready to fight the Turks , provided they see a few states backing them.

 

[Foinikas]

Nice. thanks for proving my point.
Those maps don't show half of Turkiye as Greek. I'd say what , 15%?

That was the pre-Hellenistic era,way before Alexander.

The Byzantine rulers all saw themselves as Roman. Not Greek.

Because errrm that was what they were.

Emperor Romanos I Lekapenos (10th century)
“We Romans have inherited the empire from our fathers.”

Meaning: Political identity = Roman. Source: Theophanes Continuatus, ed. Bekker, Bonn Corpus (1838).

And yet,they were Greek. You didn't understand a thing from my post.

There was never a state in history that called itself "Byzantium"; this name was applied by the German historian Hieronymus Wolf a century after the empire's fall ( 1577 )

The state's official and actual name was always the Eastern Roman Empire

The Eastern Roman Empire is not a "Greek state" in ethnic, political and legal terms, and its origins lie directly in Latin Roman civilization.

First of all,that's not MMM-E talking,you again c/p or had someone else write this for you (lol here).

Second,of course the term Byzantium came much later. Everybody knows that. We're talking about the same political entity.

The Eastern Roman Empire was in its majority effectively the medieval Greek State. That is also widely known and accepted for a loooong looong time.

 

[Foinikas]

During excavations for Istanbul - Beşiktaş Metro, approximately 78 Altai Turkic-type kurgan tombs dating back to 3500 BC and two statues were found

In other words, it proves that Turks were present in Istanbul even 5,500 years ago.

Thank you professor

 

[BlueMarlin]

Yes, He lives in Greece, apart from the nice beaches and clubs there, they have the pantheon of gods

Captain marvel gets his power from the pantheon of gods

they just to watch out for that pesky kratos.


the turks can name a missile kratos for extreme trolling

 

[MMM-E]

We dont care about wet dreams from lunatic People of Greece

We are concerned with science and evidence
and we are showing evidance

During excavations for Istanbul - Beşiktaş Metro, approximately 78 Altai Turkic-type kurgan tombs dating back to 3500 BC and two statues were found.

The statues bear the AK-ANA/UMAY symbol and tamga, which is described as "hands on hips" in Turkish kilim (rug) motifs

Istanbul's oldest burial site found during metro excavation works

A nearly 3,500-year-old burial site was discovered in Istanbul's Beşiktaş district during excavation work for a new metro project connecting Kabataş,...

www.dailysabah.com

Turks have been Istanbul and Anatolia for at least 5500 years!!!

not me but Russian biochemist and geneticist Prof. Anatoly Klyosov suggests Proto-Turkic was dominant in parts of Europe 7,000 years ago and in Anatolia 3,000–4,000 years ago

 

[MMM-E]

KURGAN Culture

The word kurgan comes from a Turkic word meaning a fortified place, embankment or high grave

Kurgans spread across eastern and southeastern Europe, Central Asia, southern Siberia , near the modern borders of China, Kazakhstan, Mongolia and parts of Anatolia

-- In Turkiye, the Beşiktaş kurgan formation, dating to about 3500 BC

-- Poland has Kurgans dated to 4000 BC

Kurgan - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Kurgans in Mongolia

Kurgan in Kazakhstan

 

[MMM-E]

A power like Turkiye possessing profound strategic depth, massive Armed Forces and a domestic defense industry launches a far more devastating retaliation the moment it overcomes the initial shock.

It runs counter to the principles of military history for a state under attack to lay down its arms simply because Western allies ask it to as like 1974


In short, the Greek media's logic "We strike and then the US and NATO step in to bail us out" amounts to gambling rather than military strategy. The aftermath of a first strike against a power like Turkiye would not be a seat at the diplomatic table, but a crushing disappointment for Greece

 

[MMM-E]

In any case, Greece does not have such a power, nor will it have it in the future


If they fail to destroy Türkiye within 24 hours, no one will be able to stop Turkiye, and Greece's map will likely change

They will lose the Islands which are only 2 , 5 , 7 , 10 , 30 km to Turkiye

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They used silly Zelensky just like that too, in the end, Ukraine lost its territory, the Ukranian cities were set back to the Stone Age, hundreds of thousands died and millions of Ukrainians fled the country

And USA stole Ukraine's underground resources worth $500 billion

 

[hyperman]

Please stay on topic @MMM-E discuss only things within the scope of the thread title and initial post. No ancient history.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

In any case, Greece does not have such a power, nor will it have it in the future


If they fail to destroy Türkiye within 24 hours, no one will be able to stop Turkiye, and Greece's map will likely change

They will lose the Islands which are only 2 , 5 , 7 , 10 , 30 km to Turkiye

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They used silly Zelensky just like that too, in the end, Ukraine lost its territory, the Ukranian cities were set back to the Stone Age, hundreds of thousands died and millions of Ukrainians fled the country

And USA stole Ukraine's underground resources worth $500 billion

 

[KingQamaR]

When nato invades nato.

So what happens to article 5 ???