Gunman opens fire at crowded Australia beach, people rush for shelter

[Master Chief]

7th of October is called Toofan Al-Aqsa.

It certainly wasn't an Mossad attack. It was an Hamas operation targeting the IDF southern division. And there is nothing controversial about it.

If Ukraine killed 1200 Russian soldiers in one day they'd be celebrating for a whole week.

Because Palestinains eliminated 900-1200 Israeli soldiers they Jewish-run media started pushing out anti-Palestinian Goebells level propaganda so they can scare people from pushing back against them once they carpet bomb and annihilate Gaza.

I have no sympathy for these people not sure why people are crying over them.

They were killing 1,000+ Palestinians a day at one point during their bombardment campaign on Gaza.

The problem is - with the greatest of respect - it was a plan destined to lead to strategic defeat. In hindsight, it stands as a strategic miscalculation by Hamas. There was clearly no plan to back up this event with any concrete military or political actions to enable any lasting pressure against the zionist qom.

Tel Aviv, arguably, were happy that this happened as it allowed them to pursue their objectives with renewed vigour.

 

[hasssanali8998]

Buddy, didn't Zia do a lot of stuff in Gaza? You wanna go back in history, your own position is not tenable. Zia killing palestinians is not humanitarian violations but others are, is not a logic that flies too far.

do you see us glorifying zia huh , you do know he was assassinated right . you guys worship Modi because he killed Muslims

 

[PakSword]

Not at all. I just think those people do not suffer from an inferiority complex.

Then there might be a superiority complex..

Out of the 12 died, how many were Israel supporting genocidal Zionists exactly? Ahmad al Ahmad would have died as well if he hadn't approached from behind the attacker (and there might be other Muslims around at that time). Did the attackers check the ideology of people before opening fire? Is it really allowed in our religion to kill people randomly even when we are at war?

 

[Shui]

india and china have huge issues. India rarely talks about support to maoist insurgency from them- because their support is insignificant

If there is any real support, they wouldn't have still using spear and homemade black powder gun, stop bringing China into this.

 

[PakSword]

Buddy, didn't Zia do a lot of stuff in Gaza? You wanna go back in history, your own position is not tenable. Zia killing palestinians is not humanitarian violations but others are, is not a logic that flies too far.

Zia was an asshole.. Can you give your toadie a similar nice name?

You are now defending butcher of Gujrat by bringing Zia..

 

[Dalit]

Zia was an asshole.. Can you give your toadie a similar nice name?

You are now defending butcher of Gujrat by bringing Zia..

The dude has derailed the topic. It has now become about India versus Pakistan.

 

[Falcon29]

There are also many Israelis who are vehemently opposed to Netanyahu and Zionism. They are very vocal.

Opposed to Netanyahu but not what they did in Gaza.

Even if you take Gaza out of picture the Zionists have been inciting against Muslims for long time and particularly last several months hiring charlatans to spit bigotry out at Muslims calling for killing of Muslims and so forth.

For all I know these two guys got fed up with the Jews on media. It's not our problem and not in our control and we don't need to hyper analyze anything because it happened to Jews. Or it could be a Mossad false flag series of false flags to prevent Trump Peace Plan from moving forward..

Any other group of people get shot nobody cares about them. Nobody cares about the American students shot dead in a university mass shooting yesterday because the narcassistic Jews are demanding full attention to regain control. They're using non-Jews as their narcassistic supply.

We aren't going to reward narcassism and facism of Israeli people. It's plain simple.

If Jews want sympathy they need to immediately dissociate themselves from crazy Jewish narcassistic opportunitists that start spamming social media demanding Palestinian flags be banned despite there being zero link to Palestine.

They would celebrate Palestinians getting murdered anywhere in the world.

If people suck up to the Jews right now they're going to reward their narcassism and they'll kick up the narcassistic tactics again.

Jews don't even care if some random Jews die. They have an agenda to facilitate a Holocaust against Muslims to get Israel back in control and Jewish control of Western social media, teachings, education curriculum, etc, back .....

They just want control of white people back.

They're not gonna succeed in regaining control of white people anymore and they won't succeed against Muslims either. We will kick their asses if they don't stop spreading mischief in the world and trying to disrupt lives of White Christians and Muslims/Arabs.

They need to drop the ego and stop obsessing over control.

 

[PakSword]

No. Because he delievers as an administrator. I don't like his right wing nature. But I can't ignore that he is the most capable leader around for now.

So a killer can be supported if he is a good administrator?

 

[Guynextdoor]

So a killer can be supported if he is a good administrator?

Like I said before

- Gujarat is not in Pakistan
-gaza is not in Pakistan

so stop making this your issue. This is for India to resolve. not you.

 

[nahtanbob]

What about the Palestinian genocide done by the Israelis?

Is it a genocide? Call it an occupation. I will agree with you.,

 

[hasssanali8998]

Is it a genocide

yes it is even holocaust survivors agree ,

 

[nahtanbob]

The Secular Republic was itching to jump on the American Chinooks in 2001. To imply otherwise is simple chanakiya on your part.

I am not sure what are you trying to say

Like then, the perpetual urge to demonstrate state level Pakistani involvement in any lunatic action by some uneducated bum half way around the world, likely himself born and radicalised outside of Pakistan, with a packet of shaan masala in his pocket, is very much palpable.

Some Indians will keep throwing things at you. No disagreement there. Prove it has affected policies towards Pakistan in any way.

This incident has nothing to do with the Islamic Republic of Pakistan but we welcome your ilk to try and harm us on behalf of your latest "saar please" allies, Australian jewry. It works out so well for your lot whenever you try to take Pakistan on, I really don't know why you are waiting.

If the guy grew up in Pakistan, deal with it. Otherwise, shrug it off and move on.

 

[Master Chief]

No. Because he delievers as an administrator. I don't like his right wing nature

We have noted this mantra many many times in past threads on this very forum. Hitler too was a great administrator and he drove an economic revival of Weimar Germany between the world wars.

 

[hasssanali8998]

gaza is not in Pakistan

so only Gazans can care for Gaza , retarded argument Gaza IS a UNIVERSAL issue

 

[Falcon29]

If I remember correctly, many were saying that IDF was shooting their own people during the incident.

The soldiers/security forces killed were around 700-800 which sounds like a lot but it's not when they have so bases and checkpoints around Gaza. That's like 10-20 Israeli soldiers at each point.

The target bank Hamas elite nukhba force had was a bit over 100 Israeli army/security targets.

The other 300-400 were killed by Israeli army particularly Israeli helicopter fire + tank shelling. They were doing very heavy shelling inside their own cities and reported them as deaths from Hamas.

We obviously never touched a single woman. Al Qassam Brigades are religious Arab Muslims they went in quickly to strike the target bank. Some choose to remain and fight it out with Israeli forces others came back. The propaganda about our men raping is the sickest propaganda I'll never forgive Jewish people.

Or the propaganda about beheading 40 babies. Which even Joe Biden was forced to come out and deny.

The Jewish run media called it 10/7 instead of Toofan Al-Aqsa which was what it was called. And claimed it targeted civilians.

The whole purpose was to scare the world and Muslim/Arab world because they were intending to level Gaza and force it's population out and were hoping nobody would counter their propaganda.

People don't remember but in beginning days of war their whole government and army literally demanded everyone in Gaza rush to the borders with Egypt and demanded Egypt open borders for them. They gave 24 hours and started carpet bombing the whole place. Downtown Gaza City was destroyed within a few days.