H-1B visas must end’: Wife of US citizen shares plight of landing IT jobs

[samsite84]

Once again, Arnab is asking Indians to come back to great India where the economy is going to be the fasting growing next year, too. And he is citing a few isolated incidents of violence against Indians to blame Trump/MAGA. How disingenuous! And he is also deviously pointing out the taxes Indians pay and how the Indian expats in major corporations are the way who are propping up America!
Arnab maybe making 7 or even 8 figures a month in India but he should know why Indians are running away and too few want to go back to India: India is a net loss for most Indians who could get away from India!

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Nobody (Atleast I don't) take this person seriously. The guy who has to outshout everyone in every debate - effing useless... But dare I say, even more sane (or balanced) voices from India such as Rajat Gupta are taken as a biased view - so very few options left for "news" and "information"

On topic, 95% of Indians won't return in near future/next decade. Situation will have to improve much more for us to seriously consider uprooting our lives from here and moving back. Me and wife have decided, if we move back, we are not working (at least not full-time, maybe will take few "expert" gigs) and live in Mumbai or around there... no North India for us. Problem is kaam karne ka keeda, jaata hi nahi (and now posting on pdf in between meetings) Guess thats what you get after training your mind and body for 20 years r so

 

[Meengla]

@nang2

Sounds like double standard.

Indeed, it is. The middle and upper middle classes turned a blind eye to the loss of manufacturing jobs to China and rest of Asia 'cos it mainly affected working class folks. Now that their own jobs are on the line, they are now asking for protection from competition.

Regards

Like 'all politics is local', greed is personal.
We live in an imperfect world. Big fish eats smaller fish. The same AI engine programmers who are 'training' the AI engines create algorithm are like sitting on a tree trunk and axing off the trunk. The same companies who are offshoring jobs may well find not enough 'consumers' for their products.
All these can't be changed enough by govt regulations to make a lasting impact. Water will always flow downhill and the jobs will always go to the cheaper locations. But I don't care at this point of the twilight of my own career. The world is unfair. Life itself is unfair. A few more years of Big Bucks for me while working. Just a few more!

 

[Meengla]

On topic, 95% of Indians won't return in near future/next decade. Situation will have to improve much more for us to seriously consider uprooting our lives from here and moving back. Me and wife have decided, if we move back, we are not working (at least not full-time, maybe will take few "expert" gigs) and live in Mumbai or around there... no North India for us. Problem is kaam karne ka keeda, jaata hi nahi (and now posting on pdf in between meetings) Guess thats what you get after training your mind and body for 20 years r so

Arnab should not have embarrassed himself by asking Indians to go back to India; everyone knows the reality of living in India (and just about all of South Asia). Speaking of emigration: A good American couple is my friend and they were talking about moving to Portugal for retirement but have decided to move to Alabama!!! Wow!

As to the quoted part: It is about getting your expectations and priorities in order and age plays a huge role in that. I am in America for nearly 35 years now--that's very much most of my life and am deeply 'embedded' here to point of even thinking in English language and then translating to Urdu if/when I get to speak in Urdu though Urdu is my mother tongue to the point of even casual poetry!!

And I was in Pakistan less than two months ago after a long absence. I was very fearful of Pakistan before going there and there is a long PDF thread by me about my fears and experiences in Pakistan. But I found Pakistan to be much better though my own experience was greatly affected by family inheritance disputes where I was sucked into but Pakistan itself was much better. I found several relatives with successful careers in America but they moved back to Pakistan in their older years and are loving the life there. And I don't rule that out for myself. But I will NEVER live in a crowded city!! Maybe you too could consider that?? Maybe the Himalayas??

I know I was offtopic but maybe related!!

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@Meengla sb

But I don't care at this point of the twilight of my own career. The world is unfair. Life itself is unfair. A few more years of Big Bucks for me while working. Just a few more!

Same here, sir! Am on the wrong side of 50. Wish had been a bit more prudent on investment management, by now wouldn't have needed to work! Anyway, like you have managed to go through almost the entire working life employed. God willing will be able to stay employed till 60. We have been lucky.

Feel sorry for the next gen (incl my kid)- don't know what is in store for them.

Regards

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@Meengla sb

Can you send me the link to your travelogue to Pakistan on PDF?

Regards

 

[Meengla]

Same here, sir! Am on the wrong side of 50. Wish had been a bit more prudent on investment management, by now wouldn't have needed to work! Anyway, like you have managed to go through almost the entire working life employed. God willing will be able to stay employed till 60. We have been lucky.

Feel sorry for the next gen (incl my kid)- don't know what is in store for them.

Thank you.
I think my own situation might change for the better in just 5-6 days but I am not worried about that much; being purposefully 'child free' is a blessing!!!
But you are right about the youngens the world over. I feel sad for them. Really!!

 

[SoulSpokesman]

If I had been "child free" I would be freaking out now. Left to myself I can live on next to nothing and des is cheap anyway.

Regards

 

[Meengla]

If I had been "child free" I would be freaking out now. Left to myself I can live on next to nothing and des is cheap anyway.

Regards

I DM a link to my travelogue about the recent Pakistan trip. I am planning add more photos to that soon--better quality photos.

Thread 'Going to Pakistan for a Visit Very Soon!'

Aug 4, 2025

After a gap of nearly 6 years, going to Karachi to meet the family. A little nervous about cell phone snatching incidents which seem rampant in Karachi. Should I be? I don't foresee a long trip: Maybe as brief as 2 weeks but it is open ended and I have not booked a return flight yet. I think Karachi's weather in August is tolerable due to strong monsoon breeze and cloud cover. Maybe I will fly to some place in Europe from Pakistan and then cruise back to America; I love cruises with many Sea Days.
I'd love to get away to some hilly region up north, such as Nathiagali / Khanspur and chill...

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As to the 'Child Free' or not, it is a personal choice. But per my observations, those, regardless of their location on this beautiful planet, had kids while not having a LOT of money end up in a lot of stress. A parent would never publicly disown their kids but in their hearts and often in anonymous forums they regret their choice of having kids. The kids may or may not help in old age but they certainly take away from your life. I consider kids to be 'parasites', biologically speaking!!

 

[SoulSpokesman]

Will reply on DM, sir

Regards

 

[samsite84]

Arnab should not have embarrassed himself by asking Indians to go back to India; everyone knows the reality of living in India (and just about all of South Asia). Speaking of emigration: A good American couple is my friend and they were talking about moving to Portugal for retirement but have decided to move to Alabama!!! Wow!

As to the quoted part: It is about getting your expectations and priorities in order and age plays a huge role in that. I am in America for nearly 35 years now--that's very much most of my life and am deeply 'embedded' here to point of even thinking in English language and then translating to Urdu if/when I get to speak in Urdu though Urdu is my mother tongue to the point of even casual poetry!!

And I was in Pakistan less than two months ago after a long absence. I was very fearful of Pakistan before going there and there is a long PDF thread by me about my fears and experiences in Pakistan. But I found Pakistan to be much better though my own experience was greatly affected by family inheritance disputes where I was sucked into but Pakistan itself was much better. I found several relatives with successful careers in America but they moved back to Pakistan in their older years and are loving the life there. And I don't rule that out for myself. But I will NEVER live in a crowded city!! Maybe you too could consider that?? Maybe the Himalayas??

I know I was offtopic but maybe related!!

Yes - if my kids are off to college when I move back all bets are off... more freedom to choose the city. I come from a small town near Himalayas and the life there is amazing. Slow pace, people are generally more relaxed, fulfilled... its great

When you compare that to life in a big city in US and esp. what our kids/coming generations will go through - constant information overload, high expectations of themselves even if we don't put any pressure, AI having significant impact on the way of life - life was much simple for us growing up.

The "care" part for senior people in India is much better. You can buy comfort (driver, cooks, maids etc.). In US, nigh impossible. I can see why many people will move back. However, they won't move back because the opportunities are better - they are just not better and if I have to start an AI/digital business I would do it in US vs. India 90 times out of a 100

 

[Meengla]

Yes - if my kids are off to college when I move back all bets are off... more freedom to choose the city. I come from a small town near Himalayas and the life there is amazing. Slow pace, people are generally more relaxed, fulfilled... its great

Seems like you already experienced a very good life in India and know there are alternates to the cities like Mumbai and Karachi. Many I met in Karachi just can't fathom the alternates: Stuck in nearby 'amenities' as their motives to never change their situation while complaining daily about the noise, the dirt, the filth, the smog, the crimes.

When you compare that to life in a big city in US and esp. what our kids/coming generations will go through - constant information overload, high expectations of themselves even if we don't put any pressure, AI having significant impact on the way of life - life was much simple for us growing up.

Morons live in big cities!!! Immigrants are the biggest morons!!

The "care" part for senior people in India is much better. You can buy comfort (driver, cooks, maids etc.). In US, nigh impossible. I can see why many people will move back. However, they won't move back because the opportunities are better - they are just not better and if I have to start an AI/digital business I would do it in US vs. India 90 times out of a 100

During my last trip to Karachi, an uncle --who is a highly successful, doctor there--told me one could have decent 'Assisted Living' like facilities in Karachi for a mere less than $300/month. I was shocked.
But why would you want to start a business in India? Maybe because you are young, unlike me. For me, it would the almost limitless places in a four-season country like Pakistan.

 

[nahtanbob]

Morons live in big cities!!! Immigrants are the biggest morons!!

I cannot speak for Pakistan or India. Immigrants coming to USA are not dumb. The opportunities are there in the big metros. Hence the congregation in big metros.

Maybe now with the sky high real estate it is smart to look at 2nd tier metros

 

[Meengla]

I cannot speak for Pakistan or India. Immigrants coming to USA are not dumb. The opportunities are there in the big metros. Hence the congregation in big metros.
Maybe now with the sky high real estate it is smart to look at 2nd tier metros

You have a point. Yet they never leave their ghetto cities with all the issues even when they attain a good station in life. Americans flee the ghetto cities as soon as they are able to.
I personally know several such Pakistanis suffering the ghetto cities despite good $$.

 

[Ali_Baba]

Thank you.
I think my own situation might change for the better in just 5-6 days but I am not worried about that much; being purposefully 'child free' is a blessing!!!
But you are right about the youngens the world over. I feel sad for them. Really!!

Good luck Sir!

 

[nahtanbob]

@Meengla @r3alist @AZ_HighCountry

This might interest you.

MSN

Zoho founder Sridhar Vembu says Indian tech firms are failing at innovation — not for lack of money, but because they don't know how to hold on to people. In a post on X, he pointed to a surprising reason why Indians rose in U.S. tech: visa rules that forced long-term loyalty and, as a result, drove better R&D outcomes.

“There is a point about R&D I make repeatedly,” Vembu wrote. “R&D is not expensive but time intensive and best results are achieved by teams who stay committed long term.”

Complete BS - there is a lot of churn in American companies. American companies know how to manage it better

There are tons of people who sit in WITCH companies for decades. Yet they are pieces of crap.