AZ_HighCountry
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Careful. You will find that type on both sides of the political aisle.
H-1B visas must end’: Wife of US citizen shares plight of landing IT jobs
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Employers will also think twice before laying off people to bring in cheaper foreign labor.
Yes, they will think twice. They will lay off "people" and ship the job to Bangalore.
@Dalit bro
I want to hear from Germans, Europeans and Canadians whether they are ready to welcome an army of H1-B candidates from India.
By Germans, Europeans etc you mean their bureaucrats and policymakers? Or ordinary citizens?
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Employers will also think twice before laying off people to bring in cheaper foreign labor.
Yes, they will think twice. They will lay off "people" and ship the job to Bangalore.
@Dalit bro
I want to hear from Germans, Europeans and Canadians whether they are ready to welcome an army of H1-B candidates from India.
By Germans, Europeans etc you mean their bureaucrats and policymakers? Or ordinary citizens?
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Dalit
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I mean the ordinary citizens.
AZ_HighCountry
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Wasn't that long ago the Germans were hanging signs from bridges stating "Deutschland für Deutsche".
Dalit
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They will do that again if Indians start coming to Germany in the numbers they did to the US.
Watandar
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All of the people mentioned in this article would have asserted at the embassy interview that they fully intended on returning to the home country after completing their studies. It was a lie.
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‘Cruel joke’: How Indian H-1B dreams are crash-landing after Trump fee hike
Thousands of young Indians have mapped their adult lives with the aim of moving to the US, plans that now lie in tatters
Ali_Baba
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With the rise of AI, you need fewer people than you used to need, so I expect overall IT demand to stay flat as new requirements can be done by fewer people.
Dalit
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That too. Indians themselves are finding out.
SoulSpokesman
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@Dalit bro @r3alist bro
The H1B Hindu is like a baking powder!
Australian economist Justin Wolfers, a professor of economics at the University of Michigan, came under MAGA fire as he has been speaking in support of the H-1B visa program that allows US companies to hire skilled workers from foreign countries. Appearing on MSNBC, Wolfers said studies have revealed that H-1B inflow actually increased the wages of American college grads and the native employment figures did not change because of H-1B hirings.
"If H‑1Bs took jobs, you’d expect lower wages for U.S. grads. The best available studies show the opposite: 1990–2010 H‑1B inflows raised wages of American college grads by 4.2% and non‑college by ~2%, with native employment unchanged," he said.
The economist said that it is one way of thinking that if somebody is coming to the US, they are taking someone's jobs. "But facts don't bear that out," he said, adding that all economic activities in the US are like a cake and H-1B is a key ingredient. If the US does not have a specific ingredient to bake the economy cake, they can 'instacart' STEM workers through the H-1B program. Without the ingredient, US will have to quit baking, make inferior quality products or buy a cake instead of baking it. Wolfers said all these options are not good for the US economy.
Wolfers said more H1B means more patents, more productivity, as H-1Bs are not just workers; they cross the ocean bringing their fresh new ideas with them.
As his cake analogy went viral, many social media users attacked him and said there's no ingredient missing. "If the missing ingredient is underpaid indentured servants who steal American jobs sure," one wrote.
"H-1B is the opposite of high skilled STEM workers. Indians are lower intelligence overall, IQ studies have shown us this for a long time. Their education system is a scam they literally just pay for a diploma without schooling. You’re not prepared for these conversations," another wrote.
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The H1B Hindu is like a baking powder!
Australian economist Justin Wolfers, a professor of economics at the University of Michigan, came under MAGA fire as he has been speaking in support of the H-1B visa program that allows US companies to hire skilled workers from foreign countries. Appearing on MSNBC, Wolfers said studies have revealed that H-1B inflow actually increased the wages of American college grads and the native employment figures did not change because of H-1B hirings.
"If H‑1Bs took jobs, you’d expect lower wages for U.S. grads. The best available studies show the opposite: 1990–2010 H‑1B inflows raised wages of American college grads by 4.2% and non‑college by ~2%, with native employment unchanged," he said.
The economist said that it is one way of thinking that if somebody is coming to the US, they are taking someone's jobs. "But facts don't bear that out," he said, adding that all economic activities in the US are like a cake and H-1B is a key ingredient. If the US does not have a specific ingredient to bake the economy cake, they can 'instacart' STEM workers through the H-1B program. Without the ingredient, US will have to quit baking, make inferior quality products or buy a cake instead of baking it. Wolfers said all these options are not good for the US economy.
Wolfers said more H1B means more patents, more productivity, as H-1Bs are not just workers; they cross the ocean bringing their fresh new ideas with them.
As his cake analogy went viral, many social media users attacked him and said there's no ingredient missing. "If the missing ingredient is underpaid indentured servants who steal American jobs sure," one wrote.
"H-1B is the opposite of high skilled STEM workers. Indians are lower intelligence overall, IQ studies have shown us this for a long time. Their education system is a scam they literally just pay for a diploma without schooling. You’re not prepared for these conversations," another wrote.
Regards
SoulSpokesman
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Is this true?
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Entrepreneur and Republican leader Vivek Ramaswamy has weighed in on the ongoing debate over the H-1B visa programme, arguing that the United States must first fix its failing education system before targeting skilled immigration.
“75% of 8th graders in America aren’t proficient in math & the average student in China is 4 years ahead of the average U.S. student,” Ramaswamy wrote on X. “It’s time to get serious about fixing K-12 education.”
Ramaswamy, who is running for governor of Ohio, also proposed a literacy benchmark: “If you can’t read by the end of 3rd grade, then you shouldn’t go to 4th grade until you can (subject to only very few exceptions).” He cited Mississippi’s education reforms, which moved the state from 49th to the top 10 in 4th grade literacy rankings, as proof that bold policy can yield results.
Several X users agreed with Ramaswamy. “MAGA hates Indians for excelling in education. They want jobs without education or qualifications,” wrote Raj (@rajgrad).
Another X user A Gene Robinson (@AlBuffalo2nite) commented, "Vivek is absolutely right… 75 percent of 8th graders can’t perform at grade level in math, and the average student in China is four years ahead. That’s not an accident." He added that it's the result of decades of federal mismanagement since the creation of the Department of Education in 1979.
When you combine Democrat failing schools with the flood of H-1B visa labour displacing American graduates, it’s clear the system is breaking from within. Our kids are being undereducated while foreign talent is imported to replace them. That’s not progress… that’s national decay," the user said.
Another user pointed out that even the American physics and maths Olympiad winning team "has only Chinese and Indians".
H-1B fee hike and Olympiad photo spark backlash
The debate on H-1B intensified after a photo of US President Donald Trump with the 2025 US Physics Olympiad team went viral. The team, which won a record five gold medals at the International Physics Olympiad, was celebrated at the White House. But online users quickly noted that none of the team members appeared to be white or of visibly American origin.
The image has become a symbol of the contradiction at the heart of US immigration policy — celebrating immigrant-origin talent while simultaneously making it harder for such individuals to stay and contribute.
“This picture alone should be enough to explain why H-1B programme is important for US,” wrote X user Sarcastic Monk (@ThePiyush7). Another X user Bharat Singh (@OyeBhartsingh) commented, “100% non white Americans, threat to American jobs, Trump should deport them."
“LOL! Zero ‘ethnic white Americans’ on the physics team. One Russian, one Indian, and the rest Chinese—all non-white, immigrants of the 3 most hated countries in this country,” wrote Deep Barot (@deepbarot). “There you go. I spot Chinese and an Indian. Yeah, put more rules on H1B,” added Zorius Veximus (@ZoriusVeximus).
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Entrepreneur and Republican leader Vivek Ramaswamy has weighed in on the ongoing debate over the H-1B visa programme, arguing that the United States must first fix its failing education system before targeting skilled immigration.
“75% of 8th graders in America aren’t proficient in math & the average student in China is 4 years ahead of the average U.S. student,” Ramaswamy wrote on X. “It’s time to get serious about fixing K-12 education.”
Ramaswamy, who is running for governor of Ohio, also proposed a literacy benchmark: “If you can’t read by the end of 3rd grade, then you shouldn’t go to 4th grade until you can (subject to only very few exceptions).” He cited Mississippi’s education reforms, which moved the state from 49th to the top 10 in 4th grade literacy rankings, as proof that bold policy can yield results.
Several X users agreed with Ramaswamy. “MAGA hates Indians for excelling in education. They want jobs without education or qualifications,” wrote Raj (@rajgrad).
Another X user A Gene Robinson (@AlBuffalo2nite) commented, "Vivek is absolutely right… 75 percent of 8th graders can’t perform at grade level in math, and the average student in China is four years ahead. That’s not an accident." He added that it's the result of decades of federal mismanagement since the creation of the Department of Education in 1979.
When you combine Democrat failing schools with the flood of H-1B visa labour displacing American graduates, it’s clear the system is breaking from within. Our kids are being undereducated while foreign talent is imported to replace them. That’s not progress… that’s national decay," the user said.
Another user pointed out that even the American physics and maths Olympiad winning team "has only Chinese and Indians".
H-1B fee hike and Olympiad photo spark backlash
The debate on H-1B intensified after a photo of US President Donald Trump with the 2025 US Physics Olympiad team went viral. The team, which won a record five gold medals at the International Physics Olympiad, was celebrated at the White House. But online users quickly noted that none of the team members appeared to be white or of visibly American origin.
The image has become a symbol of the contradiction at the heart of US immigration policy — celebrating immigrant-origin talent while simultaneously making it harder for such individuals to stay and contribute.
“This picture alone should be enough to explain why H-1B programme is important for US,” wrote X user Sarcastic Monk (@ThePiyush7). Another X user Bharat Singh (@OyeBhartsingh) commented, “100% non white Americans, threat to American jobs, Trump should deport them."
“LOL! Zero ‘ethnic white Americans’ on the physics team. One Russian, one Indian, and the rest Chinese—all non-white, immigrants of the 3 most hated countries in this country,” wrote Deep Barot (@deepbarot). “There you go. I spot Chinese and an Indian. Yeah, put more rules on H1B,” added Zorius Veximus (@ZoriusVeximus).
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Meengla
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I rarely find Indian channels finding something good over the H1B visa fee hike. Indians know darn well they have too many people in India. Indians are desperate to leave India; of course not all but my guess is still in tens, if not hundreds, of millions. There is a reason Indians are found everywhere--EVERYWHERE!! And America, with its riches and opportunities, is a goldmine to the point Indians invest a lot in education and even get loans to come to America.
There is no need to 'cope' and try to find silver lining in the H1B issues, as Arnab tried to do in a video I posted above some days ago. It is what it is!
SoulSpokesman
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Meengla
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Of course it wasn't!! Or the Indian students and their parents wouldn't have been putting in lifelong effort into education and even getting loans to make to America either as students or through the H1b program. I think the median H1B salary is $97,000/year; that's a whopper for an Indian!! Maybe like a $300,000/year for an American worker. And, unlike Americans, Indians (and most Asians) are very frugal. In just the 3 years of H1B, they accumulate a lot of money. Extend to 6 years, even more money.
Remember: People vote with their feet.
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