Hellenic Army to get 162 Bradley IFVs

[Foinikas]

M2A2 is old. These are all built in the 1980s. The last Bradley rolled off the lines in 1995. The US army uses the more modern M2A3 version.

That's why they'll have them upgraded to M2A3/A4. Or that's what the article said.

 

[Yommie]

That's why they'll have them upgraded to M2A3/A4. Or that's what the article said.

Bradley is like B-52. Old but continue to soldier on because there's simply no replacement and production ended decades ago.

 

[Foinikas]

Bradley is like B-52. Old but continue to soldier on because there's simply no replacement and production ended decades ago.

And it's still pretty good!

 

[Yommie]

And it's still pretty good!

It's alright but I wouldn't say it's great.

 

[Foinikas]

It's alright but I wouldn't say it's great.

You would suggest a Russian model?

 

[KingQamaR]

Bradley is like B-52. Old but continue to soldier on because there's simply no replacement and production ended decades ago.

i wouldn't say Bradley are old bad, but nato designs their weapons around their strategy which relies on air and naval supremacy.Things the Ukrainians don't have.

 

[Lulldapull]

But the problem with Ukraine is the vast,flat terrain and the lack of Ukrainian air cover. The same thing happened with the Abrams and Leopard 2. The same thing happened with hundreds of Russian tanks.

That's going to be true for a lot of other theaters of combat too in future. Millions of ghareeb who built their psyche's around western/ Russian/ IDF weaponry now stand exposed. The global arms industry is in a transitional moment. I bet you money that many of these current/ legacy systems will no longer be around in as little as a decade.

 

[j_hungary]

i wouldn't say Bradley are old bad, but nato designs their weapons around their strategy which relies on air and naval supremacy.Things the Ukrainians don't have.

That's half true actually, the armoured doctrine was designed with the NATO playbook in mind. Bradley, or any other AFV/IFV is designed with Mechanised Infantry doctrine in mind. (Ie it designed around the tank and travel with the armoured element).

You can say NATO doctrine have an indirect effect on armoured vehicle design, but the purpose of armoured vehicle is not based on NATO strategy in mind, otherwise it wouldn't work with ex-soviet bloc NATO member that is still using Russian equipment......

 

[Foinikas]

Well that deal was cancelled. The price to return them to working condition and modernize them to M2A3 or M2A4 is apparently too high. The Germans appeared again with a new offer for Lynx and co-production in Greece,but the government doesn't seem too interested.