Hindutva Lobby Flexes its Muscle in California by Brofessor Riazul Haq sb

[FuturePAF]

let me tell you a story my mausi & mausa (a chemical engineer from IIT Khaagpur)used to live in chicago in 1980s and i vistited them there in late 1988 guess who was there land lord an EX PA kurnol

Pakistanies always had good repo and power in USA ever since 1960s thats that they had 25 years head start of Indian techies and prfessionlas and almost all of east cost cities like Chicago , jersey , Philaelphia, Boston or New York & washington had very good Pakistani presence with them having very very good number of high end real estate

tell me why dint they educate there children and made them into main stream jobs or media or polictics ?

what was Indian power in Europe or UK or USA prir to 2014 well we just were in numbers but it takes someone to unite and show stregnth through proper guidence and purpose MODI JI gave Indian in India and aborad that which your present and past ex miltarry & civil beurocray rich land owners in west failed to give despite all that backup think about it where and how you lost despite all that

It was happening before Modi. It’s the Indian education system that gave time for enough high quality people to work their way into the R&D world of US industry. By the time Modi came, it was just a matter of ask those already in key positions to unify.

The IIT backgrounds made the difference, not so much the political leader in India.

 

[arjunk]

Heh Many Pakistanis would also become Republican if they are born there, that's kinda how South Asian immigrants and their kids act. I don't know if Kamala will win or not. It largely depends on the ability of her to give out speeches at this point. Trump fumbled the last debate so another debate is not possible.

Vivek is a smart guy, went to Harvard and Yale, runs a business. He still got a long road ahead of him. IMO his appeal inside the republicans is only increasing. Although he may not be presidential material he got a good chance to get some lucrative positions.

Pakistanis were always republican until the party got hijacked by zionist lobbyists. Now Democrats are preferred, because they at least have to pretend to not be bloodthirsty war criminals.

 

[nahtanbob]

That’s why they swapped him out.

The issue will be that as Modi said Indian Americans are the brand ambassadors of India. Many Indian Americans are decent and hardworking people, but many, especially on the Republican side, that get into politics, drink the “kool-aid” and know tow to bigots. Should Kamala win, especially considering she is running against Trump, she and the diaspora will face the brunt of racism many think doesn’t exist anymore in America.

Remember the interview between Vivek and Ann Coulter.

I was living in the south when Obama won, and the kind of racism and seething stoked by talk radio was there more prominently in the background.

If you go past all the headlines, geopolitics and red meat political issues a good section of the immigrant communities will find the GOP agenda appealing

 

[FuturePAF]

If you go past all the headlines, geopolitics and red meat political issues a good section of the immigrant communities will find the GOP agenda appealing

I’m not saying it isn’t, but what is your personal experience with many of the current hardcore republican voters. Many are following Trump and taking his words seriously. He’s riling up enough of the crazies, on both sides. This isn’t normal politics. He literally gave an antisemitic speech to a gathering of Jewish people he was trying to convince to vote for him, but said it would be their fault if he lost, considering the Jewish vote goes historically 60-70% for democrats.

 

[nahtanbob]

I’m not saying it isn’t, but what is your personal experience with many of the current hardcore republican voters. Many are following Trump and taking his words seriously. He’s riling up enough of the crazies, on both sides. This isn’t normal politics. He literally gave an antisemitic speech to a gathering of Jewish people he was trying to convince to vote for him, but said it would be their fault if he lost, considering the Jewish vote goes historically 60-70% for democrats.

Republican base has been riled up since Trump's entry. Even before that they were enough militia nutcases/open racists in the party. this is not new.

You might not like Trump. He does tell things that are unpleasant in ways politicians would not be telling others. On some issues especially immigration and free trade you have to consider the possibility he might be on the winning side.

American Jews need to reconcile their support for Netanyahu. It is not compatible with rest of their political agenda. It has not cost them anything so far. A guy like Trump can make them pay dearly.

I do not know of any Republican politician who has told the Right to Life movement to buzz off. That is raw political power and the confidence to project the power.

The progressives on the Democrat side are not bad. I could vote for them if they moderate their social agenda. Their economic agenda is a disaster. But the voters will take care of that t the ballot box. But they need to reconcile the fact. They can keep either immigration or the welfare state not both. One of the two has to go. They need to come clean on that.

 

[FuturePAF]

Republican base has been riled up since Trump's entry. Even before that they were enough militia nutcases/open racists in the party. this is not new.

You might not like Trump. He does tell things that are unpleasant in ways politicians would not be telling others. On some issues especially immigration and free trade you have to consider the possibility he might be on the winning side.

American Jews need to reconcile their support for Netanyahu. It is not compatible with rest of their political agenda. It has not cost them anything so far. A guy like Trump can make them pay dearly.

I do not know of any Republican politician who has told the Right to Life movement to buzz off. That is raw political power and the confidence to project the power.

The progressives on the Democrat side are not bad. I could vote for them if they moderate their social agenda. Their economic agenda is a disaster. But the voters will take care of that t the ballot box. But they need to reconcile the fact. They can keep either immigration or the welfare state not both. One of the two has to go. They need to come clean on that.

A lot it seems will come to ahead over the next 4 years, regardless of who is elected.

 

[SaadH]

let me tell you a story my mausi & mausa (a chemical engineer from IIT Khaagpur)used to live in chicago in 1980s and i vistited them there in late 1988 guess who was there land lord an EX PA kurnol

Pakistanies always had good repo and power in USA ever since 1960s thats that they had 25 years head start of Indian techies and prfessionlas and almost all of east cost cities like Chicago , jersey , Philaelphia, Boston or New York & washington had very good Pakistani presence with them having very very good number of high end real estate

tell me why dint they educate there children and made them into main stream jobs or media or polictics ?

what was Indian power in Europe or UK or USA prir to 2014 well we just were in numbers but it takes someone to unite and show stregnth through proper guidence and purpose MODI JI gave Indian in India and aborad that which your present and past ex miltarry & civil beurocray rich land owners in west failed to give despite all that backup think about it where and how you lost despite all that

Pakistani second generation is equally educated as their indian counterparts in the US.

What they cannot compete with is the 1 MN ton oil tanker load of cyber coolies getting dumped onto the US shores on a daily basis. We can't compete with the sheer volume of Indians taking over. There's also the push from the establishment in this country to cater to the Indian market as well as prop up its economy in order to stand up a bulwark against the Chinese and other potential Asian super power(s) of the future.

Plus Indians tend to stick together and firmly believe in the idea of advancing their nation. Whereas Pakistanis tend to pull each others legs and love simping to the powers that be...

 

[Guru Dutt]

It was happening before Modi. It’s the Indian education system that gave time for enough high quality people to work their way into the R&D world of US industry. By the time Modi came, it was just a matter of ask those already in key positions to unify.

The IIT backgrounds made the difference, not so much the political leader in India.

Fact is Modi dint start the education system it is ingrained in the Sanatan values or so called HINDU CULTURAL ethos india was always a hub of education since ages and so called Hinduism is all about sseking devine knowledge and even AADI Shakti /Godess Paravati asked a Million questions Lord Shiva at Gyan Vapi (Kashi Vishvanath) and even Arjun asked Lord Krishna about his duties and depts towars society and dhrma in GEETA

in short even the VEDAs and Upnishads and Puranas of santan texts are all about knowledge and sseking knowledge we had more than 22 major Universities In Indian sub continent before islamick invassions


so the point is MODI just united all NRIs under a single platform and gave them Recognation respect they wanted and that changed the same with Indian Industry at home

as for my other queestion why dint you guys did it you still dint answer that

 

[Guru Dutt]

Pakistani second generation is equally educated as their indian counterparts in the US.

What they cannot compete with is the 1 MN ton oil tanker load of cyber coolies getting dumped onto the US shores on a daily basis. We can't compete with the sheer volume of Indians taking over. There's also the push from the establishment in this country to cater to the Indian market as well as prop up its economy in order to stand up a bulwark against the Chinese and other potential Asian super power(s) of the future.

Plus Indians tend to stick together and firmly believe in the idea of advancing their nation. Whereas Pakistanis tend to pull each others legs and love simping to the powers that be...

you dint read the question full

i said Pakistanies were there in full glory in UK & USA almost 25 years ahead of Indian as Indian techies or doctors or professionals only started going to UK & USA in early or mid 1980s while Pakistnies were there since late 1950s and early 1960s and had good property and contacts with those in power circels

what stopped you guys from educating your kids in IVY leuge universities in professional courses like medical or engineering or charted accounting or MBA as an avrage Hindu family on has 2-4 kids while a muslim family genrally has almost thrice the number of kids than hindu family

cause your priority was POWER and Corruption through kickbacks not educating the next genration or serving the masses and the results show the difference no matter how you try to twist with colourfull language facts never lie

 

[FuturePAF]

Fact is Modi dint start the education system it is ingrained in the Sanatan values or so called HINDU CULTURAL ethos india was always a hub of education since ages and so called Hinduism is all about sseking devine knowledge and even AADI Shakti /Godess Paravati asked a Million questions Lord Shiva at Gyan Vapi (Kashi Vishvanath) and even Arjun asked Lord Krishna about his duties and depts towars society and dhrma in GEETA

in short even the VEDAs and Upnishads and Puranas of santan texts are all about knowledge and sseking knowledge we had more than 22 major Universities In Indian sub continent before islamick invassions
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so the point is MODI just united all NRIs under a single platform and gave them Recognation respect they wanted and that changed the same with Indian Industry at home

as for my other queestion why dint you guys did it you still dint answer that

He oriented many for a cause, that is a given, but the key are the decades of educated NRI in R&D or finance or tech around the world.

 

[Guru Dutt]

He oriented many for a cause, that is a given, but the key are the decades of educated NRI in R&D or finance or tech around the world.

MODI has done what a Good Leader dose ...

1. Gives you a purpose ,
2. tells you your hidden powers
3. makes you belive in your own and improoves your assesment about yourself and the world

as i said persuit for knowledge was always Indian or Bhartiya parampara even the sanskrit meaning of BHARAT means the nation thats always in quest of light of knowledge

hindus since dawn of time were always low key in there dressing up or were genrally Hunble yet of simple living but high thinking type and that attitude has not changed much

just llok at life style of Hindu politcians or billioniers versus Muslim politicans or royalty then be it Gadaffi , saddam or Arab or monrachs of Brunai or politcians or diplomats of Pakistan even Hindu kings used there riches in building water bodies , and roads or dispenseries while for 800 + years muslim rulers of indian sub continet wasted there moeny of opium , wine , making mosoleums or splurging on golden ornaments or fighting with each other while even in british times most Charity colleges , hospitals , schools in todays pakistan were build pre partition by Arya Samaj or sanatni hindus or sikhs or british tell me how many such notable insttution did wealthy muslims Nawabs or industrialits donated to publick or gave monitarry help to build and where and how the invested or wasted there money in pre partition or post partition India /pakistan

 

[onlinpunit]

Pakistani second generation is equally educated as their indian counterparts in the US.

What they cannot compete with is the 1 MN ton oil tanker load of cyber coolies getting dumped onto the US shores on a daily basis. We can't compete with the sheer volume of Indians taking over. There's also the push from the establishment in this country to cater to the Indian market as well as prop up its economy in order to stand up a bulwark against the Chinese and other potential Asian super power(s) of the future.

Plus Indians tend to stick together and firmly believe in the idea of advancing their nation. Whereas Pakistanis tend to pull each others legs and love simping to the powers that be...

Lol. The export done by the "cyber coolies " is equivalent to the nominal GDP of pakistan.

 

[agidest]

It was happening before Modi. It’s the Indian education system that gave time for enough high quality people to work their way into the R&D world of US industry. By the time Modi came, it was just a matter of ask those already in key positions to unify.

The IIT backgrounds made the difference, not so much the political leader in India.

I agree fully. I don't think it's Modi who made the difference for Indians becoming CEOs.

He might have helped the diaspora become more coordinated and focus on getting into politics, but he gets no credit for these hardworking Indians in different companies all gunning to be CEOs. I agree that it's the education system particularly the IITs that get primary credit. These people would have risen with or without Modi ever becoming the PM of India.

 

[r3alist]

let me tell you a story my mausi & mausa (a chemical engineer from IIT Khaagpur)used to live in chicago in 1980s and i vistited them there in late 1988 guess who was there land lord an EX PA kurnol

Pakistanies always had good repo and power in USA ever since 1960s thats that they had 25 years head start of Indian techies and prfessionlas and almost all of east cost cities like Chicago , jersey , Philaelphia, Boston or New York & washington had very good Pakistani presence with them having very very good number of high end real estate

tell me why dint they educate there children and made them into main stream jobs or media or polictics ?

what was Indian power in Europe or UK or USA prir to 2014 well we just were in numbers but it takes someone to unite and show stregnth through proper guidence and purpose MODI JI gave Indian in India and aborad that which your present and past ex miltarry & civil beurocray rich land owners in west failed to give despite all that backup think about it where and how you lost despite all that

Heh garbage

Indians always notice Pakistanis, so when they see one they actually see 10

The USA props up who they want, this is my observation

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