How China blew up its own future

[LX1111]

Yes, but the point here is that USA demographic trends are far better than any of its competitors, especially China. Those are very clear, and unavoidable, given the population pyramids and their predictable evolution over the next several decades as the population ages.

The population problem is undoubtedly a harsh challenge that China has to face.
But that doesn't mean Americans don't have the challenges they have to face
In the past 20 years, all of America's economic development has only benefited Wall Street's financial capitalists and Silicon Valley's AI and Internet elites..
What about the rest of the Americans?The education problem of teenagers.The problem of drug abuse.More and more homeless people.There is also the most important disintegration of traditional values and the disintegration of traditional families.
Don't forget that when the United States rose, the United States was a Puritan country.

 

[VCheng]

The population problem is undoubtedly a harsh challenge that China has to face.

Agreed. And that is going to be harsh indeed. What we have these days is probably China's peak.

But that doesn't mean Americans don't have the challenges they have to face

Agreed. Of course USA has its own challenges, but its peak is probably still in the future at some point.

Having favorable long term demographic trends makes dealing with US challenges far easier that it is for China to deal with the basic demographic decline that it is facing irreversibly.

For example, just how many unmarried men move to cities each year to find jobs now vs. 10, 20, and 30 years later? The labor market, as well as society itself, will face drastic changes.

 

[Beijingwalker]

Even China's population were halfed, it's still 7 hundred million highly intelligent, disciplined and hardworking people, unlike what's going to happen to US

 

[Beijingwalker]

America’s Emerging Demographic Disaster – Are You Planning For It?

Planning is all about the future. And the future is easiest to predict when we look at demographics.

www.linkedin.com

 

[Beijingwalker]

A Demographic Moral Panic: Fears of a Majority-Minority Future and the Depreciating Value of Whiteness | The University of Chicago Law Review

In 2008, the U.S. Census Bureau released a new population projection based on Census 2000.

lawreview.uchicago.edu

 

[royalharris]

A bunch of idiots hoping to immigrate to China, and then they start this kind of pointless argument. Why waste your time?

 

[Beijingwalker]

LOL. Despite being entirely predictable, it is still entertaining to see that commiebot

lol, you USbot believe all Chinese are "commiebots".

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[ety]

A bunch of idiots hoping to immigrate to China, and then they start this kind of pointless argument. Why waste your time?

China doesn't need large number of immigrants, not now and not in the near future. China is now already overcrowded. Whenever China took in large number of foreigners (Hu) to settle in the country in history, it created devastating disasters for China culminating in large rebellions such as in the end of Han, during Jin and Tang dynasties. China doesn't aspire to be an US style like "superpower", lol.

 

[lightning f57]

Key for China is effective and efficient productivity per person to offset the aging population.

China will still have hundreds of millions of young people to work, their heavy investment in robotics, automation, first class infrastructure, AI will help with better productivity.

If we look across the world life expectancy is higher than 100 yrs back and people are working less in total hours per week but working longer like into late 60s.

The west including the US has a growing population problem, they are mostly under the growth ratio (US has worst in its history) and with the rise of anti immigration far right immigration will likely take a hit too.

So its not all rosey.

This is where countries like Pak need fix their house now with a massive young population the world is their oyster for the future.

 

[VCheng]

Even China's population were halfed, it's still 7 hundred million highly intelligent, disciplined and hardworking people, unlike what's going to happen to US

LOL. No. the biggest cohort of the Chinese population will be 80+ years old at that point of a total population of 700 million. Just compare the population pyramids for China and USA in 2100:



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What we see nowadays is peak China. Enjoy it while it lasts!

(And the best part is: they did it to themselves!)

 

[Beijingwalker]

LOL. No. the biggest cohort of the Chinese population will be 80+ years old at that point of a total population of 700 million. Just compare the population pyramids for China and USA in 2100:

CHINA:

80+ █████████
70-79 ████████
60-69 ███████
50-59 █████
40-49 ████
30-39 ███
20-29 ██
10-19 ██
0-9 ██

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USA:

80+ ██████
70-79 ██████
60-69 ██████
50-59 ██████
40-49 ██████
30-39 █████
20-29 █████
10-19 ████
0-9 ████

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What we see nowadays is peak China. Enjoy it while it lasts!

(And the best part is: they did it to themselves!)

LOL, still 700 million in 2100? and will you live that long to that day? robots will replace all human works by then. 700 million is still too many, 300 million for should be a perfect population size, as long as we are still one highly intelligent, hardworking , disciplined and united nation.

The reason why US can still stay as a country is because till now it still has a dominant race/ethnicty, the white people by and large consider themselves as one ethnic group to hold the country together, once this predominance is gone, the country will collapse like South Africa which different ethnic groups will be fighting for power and interests.
Blood is the only cohesion to hold nations together, US is no exception.

 

[VCheng]

robots will replace all human works by then.

Now that is some good quality hopium!

we are still one highly intelligent, hardworking , disciplined and united nation.

... . who did this to themselves!

 

[Beijingwalker]

Now that is some good quality hopium!



... . who did this to themselves!

700 million by 2100? still too many, and who made this stupid "prediction"? we expect less.

 

[VCheng]

700 million by 2100? still too many, and who made this stupid "prediction"? we expect less.

Not a prediction. A precise mathematical calculation.

The total is not as important as the distribution within it.

 

[Beijingwalker]

US in 20 years, the color change, we Chinese stay the same.