There is a fairly substantial number of disgruntled mainlanders (relatively new arrivals to North America) to add to the Taiwanese, Hong Kongers and pre-civil war emigre descendants etc.
Lot traces back to specifics w.r.t why China at its most contained/sheltered was not simply a North Korea scaled up a 100 times (as much as Mao did try)....and the further divergence post-Mao era.
Some here turn banana so become largely irrelevant and uninterested entirely w.r.t this topic (and I prefer talking about Western related stuff with such folks), like coconut for desi etc....but I'm talking about those that remain vested closely for various reasons.
If you study the CCP factions (especially post Mao when things loosened up), there are many indications of the reasons behind this, both faction wise and undercurrent wise (supporting the factions). In the end without sounding too Jungian, it has to do with what social conservatism is and how it evolved and evolves in the Chinese context (and the world context too).
While the path (post-Mao) was pretty clear and trajectory fairly easy to accomplish, these issues were more easily and largely swept to nominal sideshow (also coincided with HK handover and Taiwan normalisation push and bonhomie and overall improvement of PRC relations with larger world etc, especially trade and commerce with wealthier, knowledge rich West).
Now things are not so open and clear, trajectories are perceptibly far slower....things getting squeezed again big time by Xi, so the "regular/prog/lib/new" mainlander consternation/angst % is waxing and creating divides with more conservative/loyalist types.
mobilis in mobili like my signature....the larger vessel speed slows down, so movements within become more relevant..... old scores pop up and renew related to how they always have in human society, Chinese one no different. What caused what exactly boils down to chicken and the egg problem too.
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@Joe Shearer says "the damage done", it reminded me of even older Chinese friend I had (he was father of close friend) and number of experiences and pain he had with the CCP....and the way he saw things well after (that Joe only slowly seeing take shape in India now). He would only every really express it to me in Cantonese idioms (with some added refinements of his), of which the Chinese are unsurpassed in the world.
I might get into some of that later. That might unpack more of what I mean. Its very similar in end to what Joe perceives shifting in India....but its fait accompli there in the mainland, or is it?
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