India Economy Thread

[vasanthm]

You speak as if India is anything other than a relativist developing country, that happens to be enormous, invoking Pakistan is not really necessary


What's this constant larping about trust.

Cannot trust USA, cannot trust china

Nation estates declaring they have trust issues is not a good look

Yes, we’re a developing country with poor people, which is exactly why we must prioritise affordable energy and economic stability, not blindly follow Western diktats that don’t serve our interests.

 

[Musings]

The problem for Hindustanis like the OP here remains a perennial one.

They simply cannot stay silent about whatever legal or illegal loophole they have or have not found.

If Israel did this, you can be assured they would shut up about it and quietly proceed until the day comes when they are exposed in an investigation and forced to stop.

For India, Indians themselves expose the fraud for 5 seconds of chest thumping sindoor worship.

The desperation. Being a world power and player one has to show astute silence when conquering, achieving objectives or moving up in the world stratosphere. I dia is just managing to do starfish jumps desperately trying to attract unnecessary attention.
Look at me im a global star. No you arent - just a pawn….

 

[vasanthm]

The desperation. Being a world power and player one has to show astute silence when conquering, achieving objectives or moving up in the world stratosphere. I dia is just managing to do starfish jumps desperately trying to attract unnecessary attention.
Look at me im a gloval stsr. No you arent - just a pawn….

Oh yes, astute silence on something published in a public media outlet that everyone already knows about. Appreciate the tip though, I’ll be sure to pass it along to Jaishankar if I bump into him.

 

[Musings]

Oh yes, astute silence on something published in a public media outlet that everyone already knows about. Appreciate the tip though, I’ll be sure to pass it along to Jaishankar if I bump into him.

He doesnt need to. Hes got kids like you doing the push ups for him.
Yaar come on - you know what im attempting to say.
You got a good thing going - dont propagate gate it and make out as if your gloating. Dont alert the war mongers and let it flow.

 

[r3alist]

Yes, we’re a developing country with poor people, which is exactly why we must prioritise affordable energy and economic stability, not blindly follow Western diktats that don’t serve our interests.

Exactly.

And by the way so has Pakistan not followed western diktats in the way you project

An India has not resisted anything in the way you like to think

Because of course the only point to you making such an asinine comment is to juxtapose against Pakistan


Yet as of now, Pakistan's feels like it could have a decent space for strategic manoeuvre, at least with respect to USA, this is a remarkable turn.

India needs China and America to develop, you will have to ask.... nicely


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[Mr X]

Russian Oil Import: In the wake of tightening global sanctions on Moscow, India devised a method to bring in discounted Russian crude oil without breaching international law or raising costs at home. The operation, carried out in international waters near the Gulf of Oman, saw Indian-linked tankers conduct discreet ship-to-ship (STS) transfers to secure the affordable energy supply.

Recent satellite imagery reviewed by maritime analysts showed Indian-bound crude being transferred mid-sea between tankers near the Persian Gulf, far beyond any country’s territorial limits. Valued at nearly $280 million between July and September, the shipments were traced from Russia’s northern ports and later offloaded at a western Indian terminal connected to the Guru Gobind Singh Refinery in Punjab.

Doesn’t it sound like smuggling in fancy way?

 

[vasanthm]

Doesn’t it sound like smuggling in fancy way?

Willing seller, willing buyer. So the so called international rules based order means everyone must follow unwritten rules, interpreted conveniently by those in charge?

Looks like India might stop buying oil from Russia as part of its trade negotiations, not because of some Western wishful thinking.

 

[vasanthm]

Exactly.

And by the way so has Pakistan not followed western diktats in the way you project

An India has not resisted anything in the way you like to think

Because of course the only point to you making such an asinine comment is to juxtapose against Pakistan


Yet as of now, Pakistan's feels like it could have a decent space for strategic manoeuvre, at least with respect to USA, this is a remarkable turn.

India needs China and America to develop, you will have to ask.... nicely


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Good video, completely agree with the speaker here.

 

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Sometimes I feel that India does play around with numbers and fudge GDP figures.

They don't need to.

Their counting includes a lot more goods and they have formalised much of their economy.

 

[r3alist]

Good video, completely agree with the speaker here.

Which one?

And on a serious note, the persistent mention of trust, to me seems strange to mention so often.... What is everyone missing?


No big country can trust any other big country

 

[vasanthm]

Which one?

And on a serious note, the persistent mention of trust, to me seems strange to mention so often.... What is everyone missing?


No big country can trust any other big country

I meant Narendra Taneja

 

[r3alist]

I meant Narendra Taneja

You agree with having trust issues for a nation state

 

[vasanthm]

You agree with having trust issues for a nation state

I agree with his wider argument "we will shake hands where ever we think it aligns with our interests"

 

[r3alist]

I agree with his wider argument "we will shake hands where ever we think it aligns with our interests"

That's a bit of a bland statement to make....

 

[Master Chief]

That’s exactly the difference in how India and Pakistan view the world.

We see global relations for what they are, driven by interests. Some are short term, some long term, but at the end of the day, it’s about alignment of interests, not emotions or loyalty.

The India Russia relationship might be one where both sides still see value long term, time will tell. But we’re under no illusion that 'trustable friends' exist in geopolitics. That idea sounds nice, but it doesn’t hold up when things get serious.

We don’t expect anyone to help us in a crisis unless it aligns with their own interests and that’s fine. That’s how the world works. So no, we don’t need to 'just watch.' We already know the playbook.

Moronic. I do enjoy how Hindustanis believe their own propaganda.

The people you betray or renege against do not magically have their memories erased by some flashy pen.

The problem is Hindustani decision making can be easily influenced by anything Pakistan does or says.

Dozens of foreign and domestic (non-military) policy directives only this year have occurred purely because of Pakistani actions (be they actual or perceived ).

This is why India's reputation has gone from something largely neutral or even benevolent towards many nations to lying bare faced and abject in the gutter. This concept of chanakiya is a self defeating principle and it is only the extended Goswami/ Zee News echo chamber that sustains the delusion for the masses.