India Lucky Not To Lose More Than Four Rafales

[TAC]

Because Pakistanis want to feel that they defeated India by starting a media campaign narritive of six Indian losses ...is India losing

There is no concrete proof accept doctored images
India has over 700 combat planes in navy and air force so how is six losses a defeat ...lol
Finally if you are that superior what happened when the Indians smashed ten of your air bases where was air defense radars fighters to stop.. and this impressive air force dominating India carrying out counter strikes
After all your pl15s could have taken out far more planes and done more strikes
Instead in response to India hitting your biggest air bases including in lslamabhad nur khan etc all you mustered was artillary shelling few rockets
Pathetic meek response

Can’t argue with Shameless Indian logic, getting 6 of your best jets shot down is no issue because u have lots moreThen Running away / getting grounded for 2 whole days in the middle of a 4 day war, then resorting to firing stand off weapons from safety of deep inside India = India is confirmed Supa Powa and the ‘winner’ againShameless ’s. Same as your leadership ‘Operation is ongoing so I can’t confirm losses’ ‘the number of losses do not matter, the reason they were shot down matters’ and the best of all ‘we shot down actually 6 PAF jets including a big one’

 

[aurelianpilled]

@Olympus81 sb

there were X locations inside India that were hit by Pakistan.

Of course, you can hit 100 locations in IND- the question is are they of any strategic importance? Let's say is hitting a hangar with an AWACS inside the same as hitting a paanwallah's shop a mile outside an air base?

Regards

I wonder what Sergeant Surendra Kumar was doing at paan shop outside the Udampur air base?

 

[Baibers_1260]

Instead in response to India hitting your biggest air bases including in lslamabhad nur khan etc all you mustered was artillary shelling few rockets
Pathetic meek response

In response to the "pathetic meek response " India ACCEPTED a ceasefire ( even as it declares it never asked for it ..) . The screams in your Parliament with your MP from Punjab waiving pictures of a downed Rafale tail section with S.No BS0001 shows what the "pathetic meek response " meant to India and how much it hurt,
That "pathetic meek response " caused your Vishwaguru to don an orange turban and scramble up the walls of a crumbling medieval fort on August 15 2025, and scream curses shaking his fist at a distant enemy.
That "pathetic meek response " changed the global perception so far as South Asia and Indo-Pacific is concerned with your country losing its status as a counterweight to China and a net security provider.
That "pathetic meek response " has resulted in your country being walloped by a 50% tariff by the most powerful country in the world and a suspension of oil deliveries by Saudi Arabia and Iraq to your regimes side-kick profiteering oligarch Adani
That "pathetic meek response " caused your CDS Anil Chauhan to visit the Gorakhnath Temple on September 05 2025, and contradict his Vishwaguru just returned from hugging Xi Jinping and state: " China is an existential threat and Pakistan is bleeding us with a 1000 cuts "

That "pathetic meek response " caused the third largest armed forces establishment in the world backed by a $4 trillion economy to negotiate with an enemy 1/7 th its size even as its civilian aircraft are banned from overflights on commercially valuable routes over Pakistan

As a price for a ceasefire India couldn't even get Pakistan to open its airspace.

 

[NA71]

Great storywriter you are. All the panic was on Indian side only which was striking your bases freely?

What does it indicate to you? If a guided rocket couldn’t cause any verifiable damage means only one thing. And that is something no fanboy wants to accept. Since, they only want to believe that India striking accurately meters from you national capital and GHQ was panicking.

He still lacks the skills ....that Indian Air chief has.....after 93 days ...he came up with 06 PAF jets hit story ....super hit.....

 

[Taimoor]

Because Pakistanis want to feel that they defeated India by starting a media campaign narritive of six Indian losses ...is India losing

There is no concrete proof accept doctored images
India has over 700 combat planes in navy and air force so how is six losses a defeat ...lol
Finally if you are that superior what happened when the Indians smashed ten of your air bases where was air defense radars fighters to stop.. and this impressive air force dominating India carrying out counter strikes
After all your pl15s could have taken out far more planes and done more strikes
Instead in response to India hitting your biggest air bases including in lslamabhad nur khan etc all you mustered was artillary shelling few rockets
Pathetic meek response

Pathetic response was from Army leadership.

PAF however bumfked India proper.

If knocking out 6 IAF jet including 4 Rafales wasnt enough (Trump think more actually ), PAF bombed the hell out of Indian installation from Kashmir down to Gujrat, and yes that includes your S400s.

You lot hardly smashed anything, all you did is to fire brahmos from your land bases. IAF was made redundant as per your own senior officers. PL15 created a no flyzone of about 200KMs inside India. LOL

 

[TallGuy]

People are discussing why Army response was found out. And reasons for it are political/personal interests in nature. You want to avoid that rather uncomfortable truth, it wont go away.

it was carefully calculated and calibrated response under a nuclear overhang! with lot of our weapons deemed dead weight due to declaration of dual use claim.

hence, Pakistan Rocket Force command has been established. with non-nuclear strictly conventional weapons with expected reach of 900km maximum.

if you just read out what weapons we had declared dual use and what we had not.

you will get the answer for your response - thank Allah we were able to respond with Fattah 1 GMRLS we did not even had Fattah II SRBM in quantity, just 2-4 fired on 10th May 2025.

that is the uncomfortable truth that you must understand. By grace of Allah situation is changing.

Enemy is not Stupid - they calculated everything!

 

[TallGuy]

So in your own words, "AFTER" the conflict Brahmos was declared as conventional weapon, NOT "during" the conflict. so how the hell the GHQ lot knew the incoming missiles are not mated with nukes? Basically you are defeating your own logic. As soon as Brahmos was detected, we should have lunched our Baburs.

Babur can be used both as conventional and nuclear role. but it will be safe to assume that relying on a sub sonic missile for nuclear delivery when there are already 18+ mach BMs in the inventory for the purpose, is rather useless. Baburs are not strategic weapons, yet they can mated with tactical warheads, so does the Brahmos if India has achieved such miniaturization. We are not going to be sitting on our arse watching Brahmos lunch assuming that Indians are only using them conventionally. At bear minimum, we should have hit them with our Baburs , which didnt happen.

Brahmos are "Conventional Weapons" inducted in Indian Military service. since induction they are not nuclear missiles.

so bhai! from Day one we knew its was conventional and Brahmos has a very different flight profile. that how we knew we were fired at by Brahmos.

 

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That's right, take the enemy to the cleaners then and there. Don't take a hit and then 'wait for orders to strike back'. Finish the battle right there. Let the NCA have their cup of tea and photos for later.

 

[Taimoor]

it was carefully calculated and calibrated response under a nuclear overhang! with lot of our weapons deemed dead weight due to declaration of dual use claim.

hence, Pakistan Rocket Force command has been established. with non-nuclear strictly conventional weapons with expected reach of 900km maximum.

if you just read out what weapons we had declared dual use and what we had not.

you will get the answer for your response - thank Allah we were able to respond with Fattah 1 GMRLS we did not even had Fattah II SRBM in quantity, just 2-4 fired on 10th May 2025.

that is the uncomfortable truth that you must understand. By grace of Allah situation is changing.

Enemy is not Stupid - they calculated everything!

So when did "dual use" translate into that narrative that you cant use them at all? Does it mean that only they can be used in a MAD situation? Dual use actually imply that they can used in conventional warfare, which it was back in May.

Actually if you read what you wrote, it only shows how pathetically ill prepared Army leadership has been, and thats what happen when you have people on top who are simple not fit for the purpose.

 

[TallGuy]

So when did "dual use" translate into that narrative that you cant use them at all? Does it mean that only they can be used in a MAD situation? Dual use actually imply that they can used in conventional warfare, which it was back in May.

Actually if you read what you wrote, it only shows how pathetically ill prepared Army leadership has been, and thats what happen when you have people on top who are simple not fit for the purpose.

Dual Use is not a narrative it was a policy- what do you understand when we say "deterrence"? what is minimum deterrence policy? how does it implies on production of weapon systems.

first you get this understood - read some stuff

2nd point: does it sound right to you that two declared nuclear armed states should be exchanging missiles at each other?

 

[Master Chief]

Iran provided no "satellite images" of hits on Tel Aviv, Natanz and Haifa . Israel was honest enough to show the hits.
Iran acknowledged widespread damage to its air defenses, and infrastructure.
Iran's regime was robust enough to survive disclosures as is Israel or as is Russia or Ukraine . Pakistan is robust enough to acknowledge damage to its air defenses and air bases, whether minor or major is a moot point.

If India acknowledges a single aircraft downed or air base hit the regime will be toppled . Currently it is feeding a lie to its population that not a single aircraft was downed or a single airbase was hit. The world and its own opposition parties know better

True but with one minor modification. The regime is permanent for the Hindustani qom. Congress or any other pseudo-secular party is no longer needed since the mask has been discarded. Indeed, Congress's only role is to be occasionally co-opted into the full RSS barhadari when required, a la Tharoor uncle doing his tour of Colombia.

The personnel will most certainly change if Modi cannot do the job of defeating Mughals/Muslims/Pakistan well enough for the baying masses.

 

[gamaji]

There is not going to be next time guys
Having seen the devastating effects of your biggest air bases struck without a single plane crossing th international border with pin point accuracy thanks to Navic satalites the cost of war and escalation to nuclear threshold is too risky

I suspect return to proxy activity and denile

No Sindoor two despite bravado India lost planes too so their idea of conventional superamcy is proven wrong too

In a skirmish or short war Pakistan will give as good as it's gets
Risk both sides

How wonderful! That ultimately offers a golden opportunity for Modi to undo Pakistan. Why he is so much humiliated domestically as well as internationally and still is helpless.

You need to tell Modi it's the best time to attack Lahore from the port side and Faisalabad from Samundar(i) side. You'll then see what it really means by 'next time' for delusional Indians.

 

[gamaji]

War is always the last resort—when no other options remain

Bhai, war is not our option. War is Modi's necessity. He was promoted as a savior for Hindus by the Hindutva fascists of RSS. He, in their opinion, has solved the J&K dispute by removing article 370 and now the stage to remove the last hurdle (of Pakistan) from fulfilling their agenda of Akhund Bharat is already here.

Using self-staged terrorist attacks and then committing naked aggression against Pakistan is all under that mindset. Since, like German Nazis, the Hindutva RSS abetted and exploited ultra right wing feelings of Indian masses to effectively hijack and strangulate the Indian electoral process, that mindset is here to stay for a good long while.

It is for the Pakistani leadership to figure out how to create an effective deterrence against a nuclear Pakistan. As is evident so far, the policy of restraint and proportionate/measured response to repeated Indian aggression is not going to provide any deterrence. Pakistan needs to break the backbone of Indian state and effectively smash their expansionist mentality to achieve that deterrence.

The world community cannot allow India to keep it on its toes every few years for the fear of nuclear weapons exchange. India has proved to be a huge source of instability, terrorism, and nuclear blackmail.

The expansionist Hindutva fascists are currently in control of Indian nukes. Their aims and goals are as evident as a mid-day sun. The only solution to the issue is de-nuclearization of Indian state and emergence of smaller states from the current India.

Earlier the world community understands the gravity of risks to the survival of humanity posed by the expansionist policies of fascist Hindutva RSS, better it will be to take on it heads on.

 

[Taimoor]

Dual Use is not a narrative it was a policy- what do you understand when we say "deterrence"? what is minimum deterrence policy? how does it implies on production of weapon systems.

first you get this understood - read some stuff

2nd point: does it sound right to you that two declared nuclear armed states should be exchanging missiles at each other?

If you read what you wrote yourself, you simply implying that "dual use" weapons can only be used in nuclear domain. Which is farce. What is the purpose of them to be "dual use" to begin with?

What conditions would satisfy you to use babur against India in conventional role when its can be used in nuclear role? Think very carefully before you answer this.

2) Indian army was using their tactical cruise missile brahmos extensively, your point is?

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Bhai, war is not our option. War is Modi's necessity. He was promoted as a savior for Hindus by the Hindutva fascists of RSS. He, in their opinion, has solved the J&K dispute by removing article 370 and now the stage to remove the last hurdle (of Pakistan) from fulfilling their agenda of Akhund Bharat is already here.

Using self-staged terrorist attacks and then committing naked aggression against Pakistan is all under that mindset. Since, like German Nazis, the Hindutva RSS abetted and exploited ultra right wing feelings of Indian masses to effectively hijack and strangulate the Indian electoral process, that mindset is here to stay for a good long while.

It is for the Pakistani leadership to figure out how to create an effective deterrence against a nuclear Pakistan. As is evident so far, the policy of restraint and proportionate/measured response to repeated Indian aggression is not going to provide any deterrence. Pakistan needs to break the backbone of Indian state and effectively smash their expansionist mentality to achieve that deterrence.

The world community cannot allow India to keep it on its toes every few years for the fear of nuclear weapons exchange. India has proved to be a huge source of instability, terrorism, and nuclear blackmail.

The expansionist Hindutva fascists are currently in control of Indian nukes. Their aims and goals are as evident as a mid-day sun. The only solution to the issue is de-nuclearization of Indian state and emergence of smaller states from the current India.

Earlier the world community understands the gravity of risks to the survival of humanity posed by the expansionist policies of fascist Hindutva RSS, better it will be to take on it heads on.

100% true, like the entity