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[RajaBaja]

What $1.4 billion profit are you talking about?

What other thread? I only know of the General Economics thread @Fatman17 often posts in. Lastly, I'm well-versed in economics, as it was my field of study; the last one I need anyone to lecture me on is mainland Pakistanis.

If you know economics, than you should be up to speed on what we are doing in trade. If you are one of those "one man" wonders, than obviously, whatever anyone will say is useless. Here is the thread's link. Come participate there if you TRULY are a student of economy.

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Thread 'Pakistan US Trade in 2024 at $7.3 billion per reports Your opinion needed on growing it'

Aug 4, 2025

In our media on TV, electronic / print, they published various reports today on US and Pakistan's trade. It stood at $7.3 billion ONLY in 2024. This is bare minimal of what it should be. The following article talks about the details and gives details on the future trade deal also.
I wanted the readers to go through this report and comment on your thoughts on areas we can increase this trade, new areas we can find investments in. This exercise will also help our readers who currently do big or small level trading with the US, including e-commerce and can target more areas. Please read...

• RajaBaja
• Replies: 21
• Forum: Pakistan Economy

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[PakFactor]

If you know economics, than you should be up to speed on what we are doing in trade. If you are one of those "one man" wonders, than obviously, whatever anyone will say is useless. Here is the thread's link. Come participate there if you TRULY are a student of economy.

R

Thread 'Pakistan US Trade in 2024 at $7.3 billion per reports Your opinion needed on growing it'

Aug 4, 2025

In our media on TV, electronic / print, they published various reports today on US and Pakistan's trade. It stood at $7.3 billion ONLY in 2024. This is bare minimal of what it should be. The following article talks about the details and gives details on the future trade deal also.
I wanted the readers to go through this report and comment on your thoughts on areas we can increase this trade, new areas we can find investments in. This exercise will also help our readers who currently do big or small level trading with the US, including e-commerce and can target more areas. Please read...

• RajaBaja
• Replies: 21
• Forum: Pakistan Economy

• 

Oh, the one you created yesterday, get out of here, . Lol.

But do tell us where this $ 1.4 billion profit came from.

 

[Rational Philosopher]

just like China had in 2000s - market of 140 billion people & skilled labours

Not needed. China and other parts of the world will split that share now.

The US won't make the mistake to prop a single power especially not India, and if the robotics revolution goes as planned your labour becomes quite useless.

The market is definitely a strength, but again you'd need to remove protectionist measures.

 

[SoulSpokesman]

@PakFactor

this gross-metering and poor infrastructure haven't worked out in Pakistan's favor, and consumers are bearing the brunt of it to cover the financial gaps.

Correct. But I was looking at it from a narrower perspective- the cost structure of manufacturing and service industries which may have exportable goods/services.

Regards

 

[kmc_chacko]

Your country is BUILT based on American money majority and Western money, minority. The internal conditions inside India until 1995 were terrible. You can write these feel good statements for fools who can buy them.

You were still running Maruti's with 1960's round lights as VIP vehicles, until Clinton-Wajpaye struck this "strategic partnership" to bring India's middle class and US businesses would benefit from it also. Today, you aren't allowing the US or Western business to be equally beneficial from Indian market like you have been benefiting from Western markets. Nor did you stand up to China, or acted on Russian oil that's financing killings of thousands of people weekly.

You can make 1000 excuses and reasons, but you can't hide the truth.

did US gave money freely ? we did trade and made profits, there is no free lunch bro,

We stood on our legs with hard work and proper planning unlike others who still needs to be feed and need US support to survive.

If Suzuki, Toyota, Hyundai & KIA can survive then US companies can also and if they are unable then don't blame on GoI policies and give excuses.
by the way Ford is restarting its plant and the understood that they did blunder by selling their factory and leaving Indian market.

As Ford Plans Re-entry into India, What Went Wrong Last Time? – Outlook Business

Ford previously operated two factories in the country—one in Tamil Nadu and another in Sanand, Gujarat. Most of the Gujarat facility has been sold to Tata Motors, while the remaining part is used for component exports

www.outlookbusiness.com

 

[RajaBaja]

did US gave money freely ? we did trade and made profits, there is no free lunch bro,

We stood on our legs with hard work and proper planning unlike others who still needs to be feed and need US support to survive.

If Suzuki, Toyota, Hyundai & KIA can survive then US companies can also and if they are unable then don't blame on GoI policies and give excuses.
by the way Ford is restarting its plant and the understood that they did blunder by selling their factory and leaving Indian market.

As Ford Plans Re-entry into India, What Went Wrong Last Time? – Outlook Business

Ford previously operated two factories in the country—one in Tamil Nadu and another in Sanand, Gujarat. Most of the Gujarat facility has been sold to Tata Motors, while the remaining part is used for component exports

www.outlookbusiness.com

In a way, it is free money. Had the US kept the $3.5 trillion in it's system since 1995, their debt obligations would be much lowered. The nearly 10 million American jobs India got, had they stayed with Americans, all these 30 years, there would be high employment for all this time, and billion in taxes annually collected that again would've helped them with their governance and keeping their debt down. So in a way, this "relationship" with India has cost them dearly and A LOT. They have a right to be upset if the other side just flipped the switch and said "we got the money, we grew our economy so now we can't do what we told you we would do".

Had the US not given you that money, where would India be today? No where. Still dirty old Cinemas, the only way to escape economic realities every weekend by watching movies. Tell me something I DON'T know about India!

 

[kmc_chacko]

Not needed. China and other parts of the world will split that share now.

The US won't make the mistake to prop a single power especially not India, and if the robotics revolution goes as planned your labour becomes quite useless.

The market is definitely a strength, but again you'd need to remove protectionist measures.

will US sell F-35 without any strings ? or will US guarantee sanction proof to any materials it will supply ? or will US will assure rate guarantee to crude oil it will want to supply to India ?
Answer : NO

Russia allows it and France ready to co-operate and India buying it and If US expect others not to follow the same line they have draw then its called irony.

 

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See again , we have faced the seventh fleet in bay of Bengal.

At least pakistanis should remember that.

They could've at least signed the letter and not be so scared.

 

[PakFactor]

Read that article, it will explain. Also, learn to properly communicate in English. This is just advise you'll benefit in future from. Writing "little shit", and "****", etc, these show the educated reader the other side either didn't learn proper English writing, or, belongs to some low income background. Its different when you talk to your friends. But on an international forum, it should be proper.

Buddy, I have been living in the U.S. since the age of two, and I do not need a lecture on how to speak from a mainland Pakistani.

Again, copy and paste, as none of your articles mention anything of a $ 1.4 billion profit.

 

[RajaBaja]

Buddy, I have been living in the U.S. since the age of two, and I do not need a lecture on how to speak from a mainland Pakistani.

Again, copy and paste, as none of your articles mention anything of a $ 1.4 billion profit.

OK, what are you doing in Pakistan with both flags on? I know PLENTY of people in US who don't write good English because they are from lower income background or didn't really care to learn properly. Simple.

I shared the link, read it. Its all in there.

 

[PakFactor]

OK, what are you doing in Pakistan with both flags on? I know PLENTY of people in US who don't write good English because they are from lower income background or didn't really care to learn properly. Simple.

I shared the link, read it. Its all in there.

It's not your concern why I have two Pakistani flags. Don't worry about my finances. I can assure you it can buy your family jewels multiple times. Next time you want to insult, at least graduate from skimming headlines.

Pakistan, US finalise historic trade deal

ISLAMABAD - Pakistan and the United States on Thursday finalised a trade agreement aimed at boosting bilateral trade, expanding market access,

www.nation.com.pk

PM Shehbaz unveils Rs4bn fund for flood-hit Gilgit Baltistan

Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif visited Gilgit-Baltistan on Monday to express solidarity with those affected by recent rains and floods, offering condolences and

www.nation.com.pk

PM Shehbaz felicitates Lt Gen (R) Saeed on appointment as WAPDA Chairman

Prime Minister Muhammad Shehbaz Sharif on Monday extended his heartfelt congratulations to Lieutenant General (Retired) Muhammad Saeed on his appointment as

www.nation.com.pk

@kmc_chacko @SoulSpokesman @koolzberg want to help this old Pakistani find the $1.4 billion profit in these three articles. Because the only profit I seem to have found was a begging bowl request:

Commenting on the development, former ambassador Waheed Ahmad said the agreement reflected a broader shift in Washington’s posture toward Pakistan. “Numerous signals have already been given by the US that they are seeking tangible cooperation with Pakistan, and the restoration of the USAID program is a clear sign of that,” he said.

 

[Dalit]

My friend, you are mudding the waters here. Let me try and simplify it for you. What you are proposing is effectively selling your sovereignty for business to the US. If you read the posts on this thread, including those by many knowledgeable Pakistanis, you would see the bigger picture. The US and the current administration is self serving. If India refuses to bow to its demands then it's no shame on India that Trump is throwing a hissy fit. India is not the only country refusing to bow to Trump. China and my country are amongst others who accepted the tariff raise since the conditions for reduction are unacceptable. If Trump and the US wants to act like a bully then so be it. The US has done nobody any favours. It is and always will be self serving

You are mistaken. Pakistan won't sign treaties like India did. Pakistan isn't going to become a member of QUAD or any other anti-China alliance. India sold its sovereignty and today it is crying injustice.

Pakistan is going for trade deals with the US. If the US can help Pakistan with F-16 upgrades, a big bonus. China is Pakistan's number one ally. China will remain Pakistan's number one ally. Pakistan also seeks cordial relations with the US. Nothing wrong with that.

India is Pakistan's number one enemy. Naturally, we feel good when India is hurt.

 

[Vkdindian1]

It's not your concern why I have two Pakistani flags. Don't worry about my finances. I can assure you it can buy your family jewels multiple times. Next time you want to insult, at least graduate from skimming headlines.

Pakistan, US finalise historic trade deal

ISLAMABAD - Pakistan and the United States on Thursday finalised a trade agreement aimed at boosting bilateral trade, expanding market access,

www.nation.com.pk

PM Shehbaz unveils Rs4bn fund for flood-hit Gilgit Baltistan

Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif visited Gilgit-Baltistan on Monday to express solidarity with those affected by recent rains and floods, offering condolences and

www.nation.com.pk

PM Shehbaz felicitates Lt Gen (R) Saeed on appointment as WAPDA Chairman

Prime Minister Muhammad Shehbaz Sharif on Monday extended his heartfelt congratulations to Lieutenant General (Retired) Muhammad Saeed on his appointment as

www.nation.com.pk

@kmc_chacko @SoulSpokesman @koolzberg want to help this old Pakistani find the $1.4 billion profit in these three articles. Because the only profit I seem to have found was a begging bowl request:

Please let him be. @RajaBaja, has no intention to discuss any matter with real content.
Few days back he was claiming oil production to start in Pakistan in 2-3 year time, while developed nations take at least 7-8years.
Then he also claimed that Pakistan can start taking orders for the delivery in first quarter of 2026 to the tune of $50b.

He pulls out numbers from a location known only to him.

 

[PakFactor]

Please let him be. @RajaBaja, has no intention to discuss any matter with real content.
Few days back he was claiming oil production to start in Pakistan in 2-3 year time, while developed nations take at least 7-8years.
Then he also claimed that Pakistan can start taking orders for the delivery in first quarter of 2026 to the tune of $50b.

He pulls out numbers from a location known only to him.

I need to find the darbar he frequently visits.

 

[Raj-Hindustani]

Trump's threats unlikely to break India-Russia ties: NSA Doval visits Moscow today​

Despite sharp warnings and tariff threats from Trump, India appears determined to maintain its strong strategic partnership with Russia. National Security Advisor Ajit Doval’s visit to Moscow on Tuesday aims to reinforce ties amid rising pressure from Washington.​

NSA Ajit Doval has a storied career. In his days at the Intelligence Bureau, he's been known to go undercover, with various disguises. File image/PTI
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US President Donald Trump’s threats of steep tariffs and pressure over India’s trade with Russia are unlikely to disrupt the enduring strategic partnership between New Delhi and Moscow. National Security Advisor Ajit Doval is scheduled to visit Moscow on Tuesday (August 5) to reinforce bilateral ties amid growing pressure from Washington, The Times of India reported.

“We will act in the best interest of Indian consumers and choose the most cost-effective option available. If Russian crude continues to be more affordable than other sources, there’s no reason to penalise our citizens,” a senior government official told TOI.

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The official also indicated that India may seek deeper discounts from Moscow in response to Trump’s recent remarks.


Doval’s visit is expected to offer clarity on India’s evolving geopolitical strategy as it navigates a complex energy and security landscape shaped by global supply shifts and strategic realignments.


So far, the Centre has shown no intention of scaling back crude oil imports from Russia, which remain significantly cheaper than supplies from West Asia or the United States. This policy has helped keep domestic fuel prices in check while also benefiting European nations that continue to depend on Indian exports of diesel and aviation fuel, sources said.

Jaishankar’s trip also lined up​

External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar is also expected to visit Moscow later this month, The Economic Times reported, with his trip likely to take place around mid-August.

These high-level engagements come in the wake of sharp criticism from Donald Trump, who labelled India and Russia as “dead economies” and announced a 25 per cent tariff on Indian goods, along with penalties for countries maintaining strategic trade ties with Moscow.

Senior Indian officials clarified that the proposed measures are aimed at India’s deepening energy and defence cooperation with Russia. Since the onset of the Ukraine war, Russian crude oil’s share in India’s overall imports has surged from just 0.2 per cent to nearly 40 per cent, making India Russia’s second-largest oil buyer after China.

https://www.firstpost.com/world/trumps-threats-unlikely-to-break-india-russia-ties-nsa-doval-visits-moscow-today-13919631.html