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@hydrabadi_arab

Hydra bro,

Its getting worse by day but Modi isnt responding, bheegi beli bana huwa hai.

Why does "bheegi billi" Nurrender not Surrender? Give up Russian oil, accept agri imports at 0% import duty and move on.

Regards
 
Give India more time. Like for what? Any American think tank that say India will not become "strategic" partner of USA now but will in 20 years is living in delulu land.

And I mean strategic partner in real sense. You can't be strategic partner of USA and also ride on strategic autonomy. Hunt with the hounds and run with the hare.

Supply chains? America learned putting all their eggs in China basket backfired. They rather diversey their low tech goods supply chains. And get back manufacturing as much as possible with high tariff.

Fight China or contain China? Forget it. India rode this for 2 decades and China is now super power.

So why should USA give special economic concession to India?
The American game with India has been "strategic altruism". The thesis is that while India may not be perfectly aligned on all issues, it is not a natural rival of America and shares the same strategic rival in China. So, if America can build up India against China , India will keep significant Chinese resources tied up so that China cannot match American power. India itself is too small to be a significant threat to the US and they don't really have any fundamental disputes.

It is a bit similar to how China has built up Pakistan to counter India, even though Pakistan keeps flirting with the US every now and then. China's main utility to Pakistan is to keep India tied up even if though China may not get much else from Pakistan in return.

Anyway, even if Trump doesn't believe in strategic altruism, India is still the most populous and fastest growing major economy in the world and the US also has a selfish economic interest to get access to such a large and fast growing market.
 
The American game with India has been "strategic altruism". The thesis is that while India may not be perfectly aligned on all issues, it is not a natural rival of America and shares the same strategic rival in China. So, if America can build up India against China , India will keep significant Chinese resources tied up so that China cannot match American power. India itself is too small to be a significant threat to the US and they don't really have any fundamental disputes.

It is a bit similar to how China has built up Pakistan to counter India, even though Pakistan keeps flirting with the US every now and then. China's main utility to Pakistan is to keep India tied up even if though China may not get much else from Pakistan in return.

Anyway, even if Trump doesn't believe in strategic altruism, India is still the most populous and fastest growing major economy in the world and the US also has a selfish economic interest to get access to such a large and fast growing market.

That was then, now USA doesn't want to deal with China through India. Especially when India isn't interested in taking on China because they have 5 times higher GDP as said by Jaishankar.

Galwan etc gave India opportunity to hit back but when push come to shove it backed off. China put pressure on Indian borders just as anti-China security agreements were being signed with USA. Later on India backed out of making QUAD as a security alliance. Botched up sindoor air battle was final nail in the coffin.

Now Trump see only trade deficit and India as tariff king without China factor.
 
That was then, now USA doesn't want to deal with China through India. Especially when India isn't interested in taking on China because they have 5 times higher GDP as said by Jaishankar.

Galwan etc gave India opportunity to hit back but when push come to shove it backed off. China put pressure on Indian borders just as anti-China security agreements were being signed with USA. Later on India backed out of making QUAD as a security alliance. Botched up sindoor air battle was final nail in the coffin.

Now Trump see only trade deficit and India as tariff king without China factor.
Bottom line is that Trump still wants a trade deal with India , which is why he and his minions are trying so hard to get India's attention. India also wants a trade deal. The only difference of opinion is about the terms of the deal and those are a matter of aggressive negotiation by both sides.
 
I am not sure how any of this is relevant. Even the post itself is non sequitur.

In any case, Mohan Bhagwat is older than Modi and he has clarified that he never meant that he himself or anyone else should retire at 75.
They are building the case to oust Modi in a way the public will accept. Sure he clarified he wasn’t talking about Modi or even himself, directly, but he was eluding to how it ought to be if the party wants it. As the spiritual head of that movement, he is sending a signal of reset; RSS 2.0 new horizons.

In the context of the tariffs, Trump’s actions just deliver the coup de grace on the sentiment; Modi is too high profile for the benefits of India’s developmental hopes.
 
@FuturePAF

FP bro,

In the context of the tariffs, Trump’s actions just deliver the coup de grace on the sentiment; Modi is too high profile for the benefits of India’s developmental hopes.

I am afraid these things backfire. It may solidify public opinion in favour of Modi. Just as another Donald's regime change operation, solidified opinion in Kaptaan sb's favour.

Regards
 
They are building the case to oust Modi in a way the public will accept. Sure he clarified he wasn’t talking about Modi or even himself, directly, but he was eluding to how it ought to be if the party wants it. As the spiritual head of that movement, he is sending a signal of reset; RSS 2.0 new horizons.

In the context of the tariffs, Trump’s actions just deliver the coup de grace on the sentiment; Modi is too high profile for the benefits of India’s developmental hopes.
Sorry, you are just making up a fantasy using word salad. Modi is not going anywhere until at least the next election. You have absolutely no clue about the public mood in India or about the relative power dynamics between the RSS and the BJP in the present time.

Trump's actions only reflect his frustration at being unable to bully India into the deal he was able to bully other countries into accepting and Modi not endorsing him for the Nobel Peace Prize. There is no strategic thought underpinning his actions beyond that. The trade dispute between India and the US will likely be solved within the next couple of months once both parties count their costs and reassess their negotiating positions. Both of them want a deal. All the theatre is just to haggle on the terms.
 
@Rationale

The mood among the thinking Indian public is quite anti US and pro Modi. If Modi wants, he can aggressively stoke nationalist sentiments like Kaptaan sb did (during and after the regime change operation led by another Donald). To give credit to him, he is behaving like a statesman and not a rabble rouser because he can see the long term and the bigger picture.

Regards
 

‘In a nightmare’: India braces for big layoffs as Trump’s tariffs bite​

From textile factories to shrimp peeling units, hundreds of thousands of workers could lose jobs, say traders.

By Yashraj Sharma
Published On 29 Aug 202529 Aug 2025

New Delhi, India – In a sprawling market in the Indian capital, Anuj Gupta sits in a corner of his shop as silence hangs over it.

Gupta sources and exports garment accessories – like laces and buttons – to major global brands. But punishing tariffs imposed by United States President Donald Trump have brought Gupta’s business to its knees.
On Wednesday morning, India woke up to 50 percent tariffs imposed on its goods sold to the US, after the Trump administration followed through on its threat of doubling levies from 25 percent over India’s purchase of Russian oil. The White House says Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government, among the top buyers of crude from Russia, is financing Moscow’s war in Ukraine. Indian officials have accused Washington of double standards, pointing towards how the European Union and China buy more from Russia and how Washington, too, still trades with Moscow.

In the fashion world, the cycle runs a year ahead, explains Gupta – clothes are being designed and made for autumn 2026 at the moment. So, the hovering uncertainty in the market has “hampered the work badly”, leaving a “big dent”, he said. Up to 40 percent of his business is in the US market.

Gupta said until Wednesday morning, he was still hoping against hope. “Maybe Trump is just bullying us for optics, or maybe Modi’s good relations with the US will rescue the situation,” he thought. “But we were the worst dealt.”

Five rounds of talks have failed to yield a trade deal between Washington and New Delhi, and Gupta said exporters now fear their customers might give up on India altogether. “If these tensions prolong, then buyers would look for alternative markets for sourcing,” he said.


As New Delhi grapples with Trump’s moves that walk the US back from two decades of diplomatic and strategic investments in India, analysts and economic observers say the tariffs could devastate key export-driven sectors of the Indian economy, with hundreds of thousands of jobs at risk.

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A worker takes measurements of dresses at a garment manufacturing unit in Noida, India, August 7, 2025 [Adnan Abidi/TPX Images of the Day/Reuters]

‘It’s so helpless’​

Ajay Sahai, the CEO of the Federation of Indian Export Organisation (FIEO), the largest government-backed body of Indian exporters, was cautiously hopeful of help from the Modi administration after meeting the country’s finance minister, Nirmala Sitharaman, on Thursday.

“The government has fully assured us that they will provide all kinds of support needed to navigate this problem, perhaps including an economic package,” Sahai told Al Jazeera.

“The government has asked us to prepare a report, and then they will come up with a scheme,” he said. “[Sitharaman] has assured that there will be no layoffs – and that’s something we should honour.”

Yet, that’s easier said than done.

Textiles, gems, jewellery, carpets and shrimp are some of India’s biggest exports to the US – and are expected to be among the worst hit by the tariffs.

K Anand Kumar, who manages shrimp exporting company Sandhya Marines and employs nearly 3,500 workers in a coastal town in Andhra Pradesh state on the Bay of Bengal, said that his business is on the verge of collapse.

More than 90 percent of his company’s cargoes head to the US market.

Last year, India exported an all-time high of 1.78 million metric tonnes of seafood worth $7.38bn. Shrimp dominates, contributing 92 percent of the total value. And the US takes in more than 40 percent of India’s shrimp shipments.

“The shrimp industry is a very highly labour-intensive sector, with small farmers,” said Kumar, who also leads the seafood export association’s Andhra Pradesh chapter. Taking everyone into account, Kumar said, nearly two million people are associated with shrimp exports.

Kumar said more than 50 percent of those workers will bear the direct brunt of Trump’s tariffs.

“We are already laying off because we can’t keep paying salaries with no orders in line for us,” Kumar told Al Jazeera. “The small farmers, who peel the shrimp, will be worst affected because there is no work now to employ them.”

Exporter associations estimate that the tariffs could affect nearly 55 percent of India’s $87bn worth of merchandise exports to the US – and benefit competitors such as Vietnam, Bangladesh and China, which have been tariffed at lower rates.


Moody’s Ratings has noted that Trump’s tariffs on Indian imports could slow India’s economic growth. Beyond 2025, the ratings agency said, the much wider tariff gap compared with other Asia Pacific countries would severely curtail India’s ambitions to develop its manufacturing sector and may even reverse some of the gains made in recent years in attracting related investments.

“It is like being in a nightmare,” Kumar said, “where you do not know what new, random tariff number you wake up to next.”

In the last 30 years of business with the US, Kumar said, the crisis feels uncharted. “The US is toying with us, doing whatever they want,” he said. “And we are forced to adjust. It feels so helpless.”

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An Indian flag, a 3D-printed miniature model depicting President Donald Trump and the phrase ‘50% tariffs’ are seen in this illustration taken August 27, 2025 [Dado Ruvic/Illustration/Reuters]

‘Embargo on Indian goods’​

Nearly 1,000km (620 miles) from Kumar’s factory, fear has taken over Tiruppur, a town in the southern state of Tamil Nadu that is the capital of India’s garment export industry.

Lying on the banks of the Noyyal river and next to rocky hillocks, Tiruppur contributes nearly a third of the total $16bn ready-to-wear garment exports. Tiruppur’s earnings in US dollars have earned it the name of ‘Dollar City’. The world’s top fashion brands, including Zara and Gap, source clothes from here.

But while higher margins in the case of big brands give some businesses temporary breathing space, a prolonged crisis could cripple them, said V Elangovan, managing director of SNQS International Group, which exports garments.

“Wherever margins are lower, the production has been halted altogether,” he said. Elangovan’s company employs 1,500 people. He said about 150,000 workers stand to lose their jobs due to Trump’s tariffs in Tiruppur.

“It is very difficult to find a new customer in this economy,” he said. “Customer diversification is not like a switch, which we can turn on and off. Soon, in the future, we will be looking at cash flow issues, and there will be a lot of retrenchment of the workers.”

India’s Modi has meanwhile taken a defiant stance on the trade war with the US.

India “should become self-reliant … Economic selfishness is on the rise globally and we mustn’t sit and cry about our difficulties,” Modi said in his Independence Day speech on August 15 from the ramparts of New Delhi’s Red Fort.

“Modi will stand like a wall against any policy that threatens their interests. India will never compromise when it comes to protecting the interests of our farmers,” the prime minister had said, referring indirectly to sticking points in trade negotiations with the US, which wants greater market access to India’s agriculture and dairy sectors. Almost half of India’s 1.4 billion people depend on agriculture for their livelihood.

But traders fear that they could be left bleeding in the bargain.

“The government is letting us get punched in one eye to save the other eye,” said Elangovan. “A 50 percent tariff is practically an embargo on Indian goods.”

Source: Al Jazeera
 
Wait until H1-B visas are affected and Trump starts applying pressure against the Indian IT sector.

H1-B visas are massively on the radar.


The Trump administration plans to revamp the H1B visa program and Green Card process, prioritizing American workers over foreign labor, said Howard Lutnick.



‘Trump has effectively banned Indians’: H-1B techies react to new wage-based system

The US H-1B visa system is set for a major overhaul, shifting from a lottery to a wage-based selection process. This change could significantly impact Indian professionals, particularly entry-level workers in tech, as higher salaries will now increase visa selection chances.


US H-1B visa a 'scam', mostly Indians make money off system: Florida guv


Expect student visa crackdown too.
 
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news for @SoulSpokesman et al. to have fun with here with "dimwit goldfish memory orange man selective theatrics for muh feelz" trolls et al. heh...


fingers crossed on SCOTUS to pull through in the end (I expect around October or maybe sooner). I explained in more granular detail in our private group the matters at hand.

embarrasment and butthurt rage incoming lol, and its transmission to orangeade jester mob antics in here and elsewhere.

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"Trump cabinet officials told a federal appeals court that ruling the president’s global tariffs illegal would seriously harm US foreign policy, with Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent warning of “dangerous diplomatic embarrassment.”

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Someone get this senile ranting dude his applesauce stat, he sounds a bit triggered
"Will literally destroy the USA" (hence the emergency crap bypassing congress, that even McKinley the all time tariff king never did) :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

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I think Modi will continue to refuse to take Trump's calls until SCOTUS rules on the legality of the tariffs.
 
@Nilgiri

Thambi,

Thanks for bringing this to my notice. Let's hope the SCOTUS puts an end to this nonsense. Personally, my fellow Bhakts and I would have hoped that our Lord would be able to secure a deal which is better than the secured by our Pakistani brethren so that we could stick it to our Pakistani brethren here; and the even larger contingent of our secular, liberal brethren and cistern from East of Wagah. Nonetheless, the well being of my fellow 1.4 billion Indians is more important than scoring cheap political points and I will take this.

Regards
 

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