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[BonPlan]

Indians love to beat a dead horse...

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They made some mistakes about Tejas :
-It was an error to try to developp the smaller jet of the world (all is more complexe when small).
-It was an error to study at once the new jet and its new engine.
-HAL is a lazy company.
result is late, overpriced, underefficient.

 

[Yasser76]

I dont undrrstand why youre so worked up about it. Whether you lose a war with india with Tejas or you lose the war with india without tejas, it is the same.

You are cute, Rafales smashed to pieces and talking about winning wars, anyway stay on topic, I know trolling is the only form of cope you lot have now....

 

[LC150]

They made some mistakes about Tejas :
-It was an error to try to developp the smaller jet of the world (all is more complexe when small).
-It was an error to study at once the new jet and its new engine.
-HAL is a lazy company.
result is late, overpriced, underefficient.

Indians are stupid...

India was offered complete TOT etc for Mirage 2000 in 1990s... but the "make in India" ( READ: fucked in india) was running. high in their head

if I were the procurement decision maker I would have standardize the IAF. Take Mirage 2000 TOT including blue prints, engine tech and build locally using local partners 1000+ mirage 2000s plus importing 200 Rafales ... and buy US AWACS to ensure complete compatibility interns of situational awareness, maintenance , operating preparedness etc

Some people doubt India's ability to make Mirage 2000... well Israelis stole Mirage V designs / blue prints and made Kifirs in the 1970s. India has the industrial capacity to do with French technical guidance.

but instead they bought Su-30s, Mig 29s , Jaguars, harriers, Mig 27, Mig 23, Upgrading Mig 21, ... what a bloody mess!....

PAF will essenetially standardize to 3 types.. F-16s will be phased out.

40 J35 5th gen Stealth Fifth
100+ J-10 4.5+ gen
400+ JF-17 4 gen

 

[harpy1]

Indians are stupid...

India was offered complete TOT etc for Mirage 2000 in 1990s... but the "make in India" ( READ: fucked in india) was running. high in their head

if I were the procurement decision maker I would have standardize the IAF. Take Mirage 2000 TOT including blue prints, engine tech and build locally using local partners 1000+ mirage 2000s plus importing 200 Rafales ... and buy US AWACS to ensure complete compatibility interns of situational awareness, maintenance , operating preparedness etc

Some people doubt India's ability to make Mirage 2000... well Israelis stole Mirage V designs / blue prints and made Kifirs in the 1970s. India has the industrial capacity to do with French technical guidance.

but instead they bought Su-30s, Mig 29s , Jaguars, harriers, Mig 27, Mig 23, Upgrading Mig 21, ... what a bloody mess!....

PAF will essenetially standardize to 3 types.. F-16s will be phased out.

40 J35 f5 gen Stealth Fifth
100+ J-10 4.5+ gen
400+ JF-17 4 gen

More realistic numbers based on Pakistan huge financial constraints

40J10
40j35
200Jf17
50 upgraded falcons

You just won't ditch the falcons yet without squeezing everything out of them

The j10 you have 20 you want more but your Forex issue recent UAE demands for money return has stopped this

J35 you will get six or so for training and I integration between 2028-2030 but two full squadron will take until 2035 the supports AWACS and new technology shelters with support air conditioning and maintenance will cost billions ...billions you just don't have

 

[Yasser76]

Indians are stupid...

India was offered complete TOT etc for Mirage 2000 in 1990s... but the "make in India" ( READ: fucked in india) was running. high in their head

if I were the procurement decision maker I would have standardize the IAF. Take Mirage 2000 TOT including blue prints, engine tech and build locally using local partners 1000+ mirage 2000s plus importing 200 Rafales ... and buy US AWACS to ensure complete compatibility interns of situational awareness, maintenance , operating preparedness etc

Some people doubt India's ability to make Mirage 2000... well Israelis stole Mirage V designs / blue prints and made Kifirs in the 1970s. India has the industrial capacity to do with French technical guidance.

but instead they bought Su-30s, Mig 29s , Jaguars, harriers, Mig 27, Mig 23, Upgrading Mig 21, ... what a bloody mess!....

PAF will essenetially standardize to 3 types.. F-16s will be phased out.

40 J35 5th gen Stealth Fifth
100+ J-10 4.5+ gen
400+ JF-17 4 gen

If they dither with the French good chance they will miss out on Rafale like they did with Mirage 2000. Think they are being clever and good negotiators in the short term, in the long term they shoot themselves in the foot.

Look at walking away from SU-57 15 years ago to teach the Russians a lesson, now walking back. 15 years of missed opportunity. They would have had maybe over 100 of them in service by now.

IAF leadership and HAL. Pakistan's greatest allies

 

[Musings]

I dont undrrstand why youre so worked up about it. Whether you lose a war with india with Tejas or you lose the war with india without tejas, it is the same.

You went begging to the USA for a ceasefire and couldnt handle the slaughter and come on PDF sticking your brown 32 inch chest? Sit down and be quiet