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[CombatCorner]

DDG-69 at it again - while an impressive amount of firepower. It seems the effort was not felt until IAF stepped in which points to why IA went on guided shell induction spree after this

Actually DDG-80 , commonly known as multi ID rat...even whatever IAF achieved was anything worthwhile as it carried out missions within its side of LOC on well demarcated bunkers without any air opposition.

 

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And later those cannon were disposed of due to using substandard ammo.

 

[NeptunesVortex]

even whatever IAF achieved was anything worthwhile as it carried out missions within its side of LOC on well demarcated bunkers without any air opposition.

The only reason the IAF carried out bombing missions unopposed was because the PAF knew stepping in meant getting wiped out in BVR combat. The IAF's MiG-29s was armed with superior BVR missiles. They completely locked PAF fighters out of the battlespace.

With air dominance secured, IAF Mirages went on a rampage, dropped LGBs from 30,000 feet with pinpoint accuracy on Pakistani positions. The PAF could do nothing but watch from a distance because entering the fight would mean certain death.

This kind of high altitude precision bombing is something only IAF can pull off. The IAF did it with flawless execution. PAF just stayed home....Says a lot, doesn't it?

 

[CombatCorner]

The only reason the IAF carried out bombing missions unopposed was because the PAF knew stepping in meant getting wiped out in BVR combat. The IAF's MiG-29s was armed with superior BVR missiles. They completely locked PAF fighters out of the battlespace.

With air dominance secured, IAF Mirages went on a rampage, dropped LGBs from 30,000 feet with pinpoint accuracy on Pakistani positions. The PAF could do nothing but watch from a distance because entering the fight would mean certain death.

This kind of high altitude precision bombing is something only IAF can pull off. The IAF did it with flawless execution. PAF just stayed home....Says a lot, doesn't it?

Your claims are as credible as your dozen fake IDs.
Pakistani soldiers intruded into Indian side of LOC, slaughtered hundreds of Indian soldiers , what stopped IAF carrying out attacks on Pakistani side of LOC.
As for the credibility of your IAF, the then Pakistan Army Chief flew in a helicopter some 20 KMs into Indian territory, he spent a night with his troops , the next day , the helicopter flew back into Indian territory picked up the army chief and returned while the IAF was glorifying it's prowess by shooting down weather balloons.

 

[CombatCorner]

Musharraf 'spent a night in India ahead of Kargil conflict'

Weeks before hostilities erupted between Indian and Pakistani troops in the Kargil sector in 1999, Gen. Pervez Musharraf spent a night at a location 11 km inside Indian territory.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

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That's quite a lot actually, I don't believe that kind of firepower was unleashed
I read somewhere that one hundred thousand artillery shells were fired ,not counting the rockets (I may be wrong )

My god we had 68000 + 155mm shells to fire???
Pinka rockets were just in trial phase ,they were successfully tested in Kargil but firing 5000 rockets!
It's a bit of an exaggeration I must say

 

[NeptunesVortex]

That's quite a lot actually, I don't believe that kind of firepower was unleashed
I read somewhere that one hundred thousand artillery shells were fired ,not counting the rockets (I may be wrong )

But 25 years ago in Kargil, the Indian Army’s artillery pounded about 3,300 artillery rounds on a daily basis on the Pakistani-held positions, totalling about 2,93,600 artillery rounds in about three-month-long war.

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[panzerfaust 3]

an estimated 200,000 shells were fired based on what i read 15 years ago.

Hmm they could be of all the calibres combined ,we had 105 LFG's in decent numbers plus they were light and perfect for mountains

 

[NeptunesVortex]

Your claims are as credible as your dozen fake IDs.
Pakistani soldiers intruded into Indian side of LOC, slaughtered hundreds of Indian soldiers , what stopped IAF carrying out attacks on Pakistani side of LOC.
As for the credibility of your IAF, the then Pakistan Army Chief flew in a helicopter some 20 KMs into Indian territory, he spent a night with his troops , the next day , the helicopter flew back into Indian territory picked up the army chief and returned while the IAF was glorifying it's prowess by shooting down weather balloons.

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Ah, classic Pakistani cope. You conveniently ignore that Nawaz Sharif had to run to Bill Clinton begging for a ceasefire because your army was getting obliterated. Your NLI troops were left to die in the mountains, abandoned by their own government, and it was the Indian Army that gave them proper burials with full Islamic rites.

As for the IAF not crossing the LoC, that was a political decision, not a capability issue. The moment the Indian government gave the green light, IAF Mirages went on a rampage, dropped LGBs from 30,000 feet, turning Pakistani bunkers into rubble a level of precision no other air force attempted in such terrain.

And about that helicopter stunt? It’s funny how your army chief could visit his troops, but couldn't save them from being wiped out. Facts hurt, don’t they?

India Buries Soldiers That Pakistan Won't Claim (Published 1999)

India is burying unknown soldiers killed in Kashmir from invasion force Pakistan disavows; has offered bodies to Pakistan, which has rejected them, holding hundreds of invaders dug into mountaintop positions just inside Indian-controlled Kashmir are Muslim holy warriors; much of rest of world...

www.nytimes.com

 

[NeptunesVortex]

That's quite a lot actually, I don't believe that kind of firepower was unleashed
I read somewhere that one hundred thousand artillery shells were fired ,not counting the rockets (I may be wrong )

My god we had 68000 + 155mm shells to fire???
Pinka rockets were just in trial phase ,they were successfully tested in Kargil but firing 5000 rockets!
It's a bit of an exaggeration I must say

Not an exaggeration at all. Our firepower in Kargil was on another level. During the Tiger Hill assault alone, over 5,000 artillery rounds were fired per day that’s more intense than some of the heaviest barrages in WWII.

 

[panzerfaust 3]

Your claims are as credible as your dozen fake IDs.
Pakistani soldiers intruded into Indian side of LOC, slaughtered hundreds of Indian soldiers , what stopped IAF carrying out attacks on Pakistani side of LOC.

That's why we have Special forces!

As for the credibility of your IAF, the then Pakistan Army Chief flew in a helicopter some 20 KMs into Indian territory, he spent a night with his troops , the next day , the helicopter flew back into Indian territory picked up the army chief and returned while the IAF was glorifying it's prowess by shooting down weather balloons.

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Bravo!
But I don't think Kargil is 20 kilometers inside indian territory!
Let's hope that wasn't a fake photoshoot

 

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Entry of boforse in the war changed the entire game......
Accuracy and firepower was so lethal that enemy was begging for the life.....
We used more than total 5 lacs artillery shells in this war including boforse and other guns......
Great to see today we have more dangerous homemade stuff like ATAGS and Sharang.....

 

[CombatCorner]

Ah, classic Pakistani cope. You conveniently ignore that Nawaz Sharif had to run to Bill Clinton begging for a ceasefire because your army was getting obliterated. Your NLI troops were left to die in the mountains, abandoned by their own government, and it was the Indian Army that gave them proper burials with full Islamic rites.

As for the IAF not crossing the LoC, that was a political decision, not a capability issue. The moment the Indian government gave the green light, IAF Mirages went on a rampage, dropped LGBs from 30,000 feet, turning Pakistani bunkers into rubble a level of precision no other air force attempted in such terrain.

And about that helicopter stunt? It’s funny how your army chief could visit his troops, but couldn't save them from being wiped out. Facts hurt, don’t they?

India Buries Soldiers That Pakistan Won't Claim (Published 1999)

India is burying unknown soldiers killed in Kashmir from invasion force Pakistan disavows; has offered bodies to Pakistan, which has rejected them, holding hundreds of invaders dug into mountaintop positions just inside Indian-controlled Kashmir are Muslim holy warriors; much of rest of world...

www.nytimes.com

The very fact you have to adopt so many fake IDs proves your desparation to blabber on a Pakistani forum for you don't have a voice elsewhere.
Now Delhi drama queens are well known to make a fool of their own public, painting their own MiG-21 in PAF colours and displaying it as a PAF wreckage or awarding medals to Abhinandan for getting shot down and then slapped around being some of the prime examples. As for dead bodies, do you think no Indian dead were taken care of by PA, but yes being a professional army, unlike the Indians, PA didn't have cameramen sitting behind every rock, bolder or glacier to fool and feed folks back home. Hell only Indian soldiers were carrying coins in their pockets while stationed in Kargil wilderness, your own General Bakhshi went on to disclose that due to ferocity of Pakistani fire, Indian soldiers were forced to relieve themselves inside their bunkers.
As for dealing with the bodies of Indian soldiers, keeping religious sentiments in mind, PA wasn't sure whether to bury or burn them hence they were left behind for IA to deal with them accordingly.

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[NeptunesVortex]

As for dead bodies, do you think no Indian dead were taken care of by PA, but yes being a professional army, unlike the Indians, PA didn't have cameramen sitting behind every rock, bolder or glacier to fool and feed folks back home. Hell only Indian soldiers were carrying coins in their pockets while stationed in Kargil wilderness, your own General Bakhshi went on to disclose that due to ferocity of Pakistani fire, Indian soldiers were forced to relieve themselves inside their bunkers.
As for dealing with the bodies of Indian soldiers, keeping religious sentiments in mind, PA wasn't sure whether to bury or burn them hence they were left behind for IA to deal with them accordingly.

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Typical Pakistani delusion at its finest. Coming to Kargil, the Indian Army buried your fallen soldiers with full Islamic rites because your own government abandoned them, refusing to even acknowledge their existence. That’s the reality of the "professional army" you keep harping about: sending men to die and then disowning them. The so-called ferocity of Pakistani fire didn’t stop the Indian Army from retaking every peak one by one, nor did it stop IAF Mirages from pounding your bunkers into oblivion. If it was that intense, why did Nawaz Sharif have to run to Bill Clinton, begging for a ceasefire?

And about the treatment of bodies: don’t try to spin it as respect when the truth is, Pakistan simply fled, leaving everything behind, including its own men. The Indian Army never abandoned its fallen, but Pakistan did. That says everything about the difference between the two forces. Keep coping, the facts won’t change.

 

[NeptunesVortex]

Great to see today we have more dangerous homemade stuff like ATAGS and Sharang.....

ATAGS will even be able to fire our ramjet rounds, pushing its range to around 80 km. And as I mentioned before, in mountainous terrain, the rarefied air will further extend its range.