Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

[Borderlands]

India doesn't have a monopoly on monsoon nor can it block it from going to Pakistan.

Thats not the point of that conversation. Point is much of the water in the Himalayan rivers (Brahmaputra, Ganga, Indus) originates from the south of the Himalayan mountains (ie, outside China) and china can't really alter the flow of the Himalayan rivers in any significant manner. India can't obviously block, monsoon, but it can certainly block the water flow on the Himalayan rivers (provided that there is a will to do it).

 

[Oscar]

If not the military's one, at least a diplomatic offensive should have been launched. After all, it was a very serious and grave violation of bilateral as well as international agreements. He showed no sign of life. Behaved like a dead. Perhaps, how then he could launch that offensive after making all our allies furious.

What was not launched then? What diplomatic offensive was expected?
Pakistan launched a diplomatic offensive to internationalize the Kashmir issue. It reached out to allies like China, lobbied Muslim nations and Western powers, and pushed for UN involvement. Pakistan also downgraded diplomatic ties with India and intensified media campaigns to highlight human rights concerns. Public demonstrations and legal advocacy were used to maintain global attention. However, international response remained largely muted, with most countries viewing it as a bilateral matter.

So what amiss?

 

[hussain0216]

Will Pakistan even survive till then? I mean, it's already been divided once, and we're talking about decades here. Who knows which Stan you'll belong to by then

Of course

Bangladesh is a Muslim state as per partition, they are not controlled by a hindutva state that was the whole point of partition

Pakistan is the same

India is a Frankensteins monster, it shouldn't be, it was a mistake

From the beginning you retarded sobs should have admitted you wanted a Hindu state.
So everyone knew what was going to happen and sikhs and Indian Muslims and Christians could go their own way

Like why try to force a Muslim Kashmir into a union full of Hindus they hate, how stupid is that

You chose this madness
You chose to push this Hindu shit as state narrative
Then you act stupid and surprised when Kashmiri and others are agitated or want freedom

 

[Oscar]

IWT stands suspended - which is directly linked to Pakistan’s nuclear red lines.

So all those gleefully wanting war should really think where this is going.

At this point it all comes down to the intelligence and gumption of those in power in Pakistan and those signs tell me Pakistan is going to be parched and starved to nothingness.

 

[r3alist]

Well, jet fighters can be lost in a clash of peers but Indian forces are large enough to stretch Pakistani defenses in a wider conflict situation and create costs for Pakistan in the process. The establishment is fully aware of this possibility. I recall a video on PDF in which this matter was discussed by a retired military officer. Pakistan needs more than its own options to keep India at bay - several countries had a significant role in reducing tensions between Pakistan and India in 2019 and this is a need of the hour once again.

My concern is that times are changing as more countries look towards India favorably. In view of this trend, which countries Pakistan can leverage to talk sense into India? This is important consideration. There is a need for a lasting solution.


Certainly. But I do wonder why you laugh at factual posts and legitimate concerns. I responded to the assumption in a post that India cannot fight a war. Is this correct? Some members on PDF extend this assumption to Israel and the US as well but all can see what is happening in the Middle East (not a laughing matter). Countries getting bombed and crippled and people dying in the process is not a laughing matter.


Bro, India blames Pakistan for instability in the IOK and has found yet another opportunity to undermine Pakistan. There is a history of tit for tat between both sides but I doubt that Pakistan benefits from the Pahalgam incident in these trying times. Musharraf tried his level best to sort out all problems between India and Pakistan but some in India are unreasonable and ignored his efforts. Our bad luck I suppose.

Pakistani forces are on high alert in the present.
I will provide an update to you if I learn more from a contact.

Great points.

It's not that nations inherently look favourably to India, it's that they have equities with India more than Pakistan.


No one is really emotionally or historically interested in south Asia outside of South Asia, so no one else will feel common cause, these days you go where your national interest can benefit or the quickest resolution.

So it's really about deterrence and will internally , India is going for a long term strategy with Pakistan here

 

[Starlord]

What to cover. You shot down a 75 years old aircrafts. What to cover about it

We are not searching the Dursa banda.

So is this our fault that you sent a 75 year old fighter jet to counter Pakistan Air force response ? which they literally tell you 24 hours ago is coming?

Also your guys did dispatch a heli for Search and rescue mission, do I need to remind you what happen to that poor Heli?

 

[gamaji]

Well, jet fighters can be lost in a clash of peers but Indian forces are large enough to stretch Pakistani defenses in a wider conflict situation and create costs for Pakistan in the process. The establishment is fully aware of this possibility. I recall a video on PDF in which this matter was discussed by a retired military officer. Pakistan needs more than its own options to keep India at bay - several countries had a significant role in reducing tensions between Pakistan and India in 2019 and this is a need of the hour once again.

My concern is that times are changing as more countries look towards India favorably. In view of this trend, which countries Pakistan can leverage to talk sense into India? This is important consideration. There is a need for a lasting solution.


Certainly. But I do wonder why you laugh at factual posts and legitimate concerns. I responded to the assumption in a post that India cannot fight a war. Is this correct? Some members on PDF extend this assumption to Israel and the US as well but all can see what is happening in the Middle East (not a laughing matter). Countries getting bombed and crippled and people dying in the process is not a laughing matter.


Bro, India blames Pakistan for instability in the IOK and has found yet another opportunity to undermine Pakistan. There is a history of tit for tat between both sides but I doubt that Pakistan benefits from the Pahalgam incident in these trying times. Musharraf tried his level best to sort out all problems between India and Pakistan but some in India are unreasonable and ignored his efforts. Our bad luck I suppose.

Pakistani forces are on high alert in the present.
I will provide an update to you if I learn more from a contact.

The possibility of long drawn conflict is minimum due to the nukes on both sides. If any, it will be short but intense clash that stays active only until international community intervenes.

 

[Dalit]

The possibility of long drawn conflict is minimum due to the nukes on both sides. If any, it will be short but intense clash that stays active only until international community intervenes.

There needs to be an immediate reply to Hindutva savagery. Couple that with missile tests.

This will now finally force the hand of Asim Munir.

 

[Hybrid]

I mean so was India in 1947 - or do you prefer the term 'Partition'.

No wait, that's exactly the term Bangladesh use today.

Forget about the division of ****stan. I personally would love to see how you, your powerful Military & Economy even attempt to retake our Kashmir.

What are you guys using — partition or division?
I'm not delusional. I don't think India could ever take Kashmir from Pakistan militarily.
Your military might gift it to us someday you never know.
Pakistan Army's next move… they're the only successful businesspeople out there

 

[KingQamaR]

Its not excuse MIG are still capable but still it's a 75 years aircraft.
The big boys remained untouched.. Even inside Pakistan they remain untouched

Wrong. Your mirages and SU30 scuttled off in the dark when pressed by PAF. Americans lost in Afghanistan to guys in flip flops carrying AK47s nothing do with fancy toys. Look at Russia in Ukraine using Cold War tanks from 1960s winning vs modern weapons.

 

[gamaji]

So you bombed 10 km from the LOC with unguarded airspace? If that was the goal, artillery could have easily done that

The goal was achieved whatever 10 or 500 Km was set before the launch of operation.

 

[Trailer23]

What to cover

Lets see...

The embaressment of getting beat by your nemesis for starters.

Buddy, in WAR no one talks about the age of the jet.

Pulwama happened on 14th Feb. & you guys attacked Balakot on 26th Feb, right...

12 Days later. No footage from those MaslaSpice2000 Bombs. The !sraelis gave you a raw deal when they sold you that trash.

And you guys chose to come in in the middle of the night after 3-4 Decades. Cute.

Now...

How many days ... oh sorry ... hours did we take to respond back?

You speak about only the 75 Year old jet, right? Okay lets leave that jet & its "occupant" out of this conversation for a moment.

What about the footage of us coming in broad daylight & ACTUALLY bombing you, with footage.

I won't bring up the way your Battery Comander chose to shoot down that SAR Mi-17 & crispping those 7-jawans in the process. Sad. Poor guys were just on a Search And Resue mission in a Hot Zone to recover ...

Perhaps some Pilots that may of been downed within India.

Challo bhago...

 

[BloodyPak96]

Pakistan has nothing to worry about from India. India is an incompetent and cowardly nation whose main capabilities are blowing hot air and having weak wrists. They bomb grains of dirt and trees and claim each loss as a dead "terrorist". If they really wanted to fight they would have done something about it when Pakistan ripped their fighter jets apart, took their airman captive, and humiliated them in front of the world. They had all the opportunities then to prove themselves but like typical Indians were shown to be incompetent. The tea seller turned PM sure loves to talk but even he realized just how incapable he was when Pakistan smacked reality into his face.

 

[Boss]

What are you guys using — partition or division?
I'm not delusional. I don't think India could ever take Kashmir from Pakistan militarily.
Your military might gift it to us someday you never know.
Pakistan Army's next move… they're the only successful businesspeople out there

They are also good at serving tea to our uninvited guests.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Is Indian sponsored terrorism in Pakistan also worthy of condemnation? It is no secret to you that India openly supports TTP and BLA.

why would I not condemn that? this thread is not about that.

So you investigated and found the culprits who did it?

how did you come to that conclusion?

He is essentially pointing a finger to Pakistan.

in fact I was saying the opposite.