Indian false flag and current Indo-Pak stand-off updates

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gamaji said:
Two weeks post Jafar Train terrorist attack were really hard and heavy for the Baloch terrorists. Almost wiped out from the mountains. Only those hiding in the cities or sleeper cells might act. But once they expose themselves, they are taken out within max one day.
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Whatever news you get regarding Baluchistan try to keep them under the wraps for now.
 
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I didn't know Victor Gao until very recently when he was on a US channel arguing that China wishes to live for another 5000 years, without USA and so on.. remarkable guy..
 
mythbuster said:
Whatever news you get regarding Baluchistan try to keep them under the wraps for now.
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Why? I've been adding anything that happens to the two "terrorism watch" threads. An attack just happened in Kalat.
 
gamaji said:
Our young generations, who were taking Pakistan and the freedom and protection that it gives us Pakistanis as for granted, can now see with their own eyes what would have happened to them had Pakistan not been created. In other words, the establishment of fascist Hindutva government in India has proved the historic truth of the two-nation theory - the same two-nation theory that Indra Gandhi once claimed to have sunk in Bay of Bengal after the fall of Dhaka (i.e. the separation erstwhile East Pakistan and creation of Bangladesh in 1971). As the subsequent turn of events in the post Mujeeb Bangladesh has proven, the two-nation theory was never dead and will never die as long as Hindutva mindset remains alive in the Hindus of subcontinent India.

India's occupation of a part of the princely state of Jammu and Kashmir in 1947, under the cover of a dubious and arguably fabricated Instrument of Accession, was followed by its formal commitments given at the United Nations for holding a plebiscite allowing the people of the state to exercise the right of self-determine to decide their own future. Multiple UN resolutions were passed in 1948 through 1957 after prolonged international negotiations. India's subsequent refusal to honor that commitment and implement the UN resolutions reflects a pattern of defiance toward global norms and obligations.

Although the UN resolutions, to which India had explicitly agreed, clearly take precedence over any prior or contested accession document, successive Indian governments have increasingly cited that document to justify India’s illegal and continued occupation of Jammu and Kashmir in a clear and continued violation of UN resolutions. Pakistan cannot allow the region's right to self-determination undermined by India.
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Spot on.

You mentioned the Instrument of Accession.

Let us always be fully cognisant of the fact that the Secular Republic of India, under the (now defunct) moderate guise of Nehruvianism, never did actually concern itself with the true and consistent application of the Instrument of Accession, since it refused to recognise its authority in the cases of Junagadh and Hyderabad.

Indians have historically deployed the Instrument as a tool for cover and deception regarding their own expansionist designs, nothing more.
 
Master Chief said:
Spot on.

You mentioned the Instrument of Accession.

Let us always be fully cognisant of the fact that the Secular Republic of India, under the (now defunct) moderate guise of Nehruvianism, never did actually concern itself with the true and consistent application of the Instrument of Accession, since it refused to recognise its authority in the cases of Junagadh and Hyderabad.

Indians have historically deployed the Instrument as a tool for cover and deception regarding their own expansionist designs, nothing more.
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the fundamental problem here is hindu indians refuse to accept that they did any folies in Kashmir..
 
There isn’t likely to be any direct kinetic action. The fact that it was left to service chiefs and announced publicly makes it even more clear.
Even the diversion of water is symbolic as there is no way to divert so much of water.
Media is a circus and plays for the gallery each trying to get bigger viewership.

This analysis by The Print lays down the facts with less halla gulla compared to other media houses.

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Cesur said:

India asks IMF to review loans to Pakistan, Indian government source says​

NEW DELHI/KARACHI, May 2 (Reuters) - India has asked the International Monetary Fund to review loans disbursed to Pakistan, an Indian government source told Reuters on Friday, as tensions between the South Asian neighbours escalated following a deadly attack in Kashmir.

India and Pakistan have announced a raft of measures after an attack on Hindu tourists in Indian Kashmir last week killed 26 men and there is a fear that the latest crisis between the nuclear-armed rivals could spiral into a military conflict.

New Delhi has identified the three attackers, including two it says are Pakistani nationals, as "terrorists". Islamabad has denied any role and called for a neutral investigation.

India suspended a critical river water sharing treaty and the two countries have closed their airspace to each other's airlines.
Pakistan secured a $7 billion bailout programme from the IMF last year and was granted a new $1.3 billionclimate resilience loan in March.
The programme is critical to the $350 billion economy and Pakistan said it has stabilized under the bailout that helped it stave off a default threat.
India raised concerns with the IMF on its loans to Pakistan, asking for a review, a government source told Reuters without elaborating.

The IMF and India's finance ministry did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
The advisor to Pakistan's finance minister said the IMF programme is "well on track".

"The latest review has been done well and we are completely on track," advisor Khurram Schehzad, told Reuters, adding that Pakistan had very productive spring meetings with financial institutions in Washington.

"We did about 70 meetings ... interest has been very high for investing and supporting Pakistan as the economy turns around," Schehzad said.
The soaring tensions between the two countries has drawn global attention and calls for cooling tempers.

U.S. Vice President JD Vance said on Thursday that Washington hoped Pakistan would cooperate with India to hunt down Pakistan-based assailants.Muslim-majority Kashmir is claimed in full by both Hindu-majority India and Islamic Pakistan, but each rules it in parts.

While New Delhi accuses Pakistan of backing an uprising in Indian Kashmir since 1989, Pakistan says it only offers diplomatic and moral support to a Kashmiri demand for self-determination.

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Just want to know who is the Indian origin director in IMF id he or she is still in the office ???
 
Chandragupt Maurya said:
Hamas attacked Israel on October 7th, but Israel launched a full-scale operation against Hamas only on October 27th.
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The dynamics were quite different in that case. There was also an issue of hostages. The adversary doesn’t have much military capacity other than launching unguided rockets.
Here the adversary isn’t a walk over. IAF modernisation hasn’t gone anywhere in the last decade or so.

Moreover, the political will in Israel is in different league all together. A punitive attack like the one after Pulwama doesn’t have any novelty now and isn’t likely to be of any use. Full scale offensive has many bigger issues and costs involved and unlikely to find favour in the current economic state.

I could be wrong.

Only, time can prove it. Let’s wait and see.
 
Vkdindian1 said:
There isn’t likely to be any direct kinetic action. The fact that it was left to service chiefs and announced publicly makes it even more clear.
Even the diversion of water is symbolic as there is no way to divert so much of water.
Media is a circus and plays for the gallery each trying to get bigger viewership.

This analysis by The Print lays down the facts with less halla gulla compared to other media houses.

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The Indian huffing and puffing got a smackdown from the global powers so now the damage control spin begins.
 
So many here rambling about freedom, democracy, UN resolutions, and international law as if Pakistan has any moral high ground. Your own elections are decided in army barracks, not ballot boxes. Leaders are handpicked, not elected.

You shout about international order when it suits you, but conveniently forget that sponsoring jihadists, training militants, and exporting terrorism were never part of any UN mandate or global norms. Spare us the selective outrage.

As for the endless proposals to revive non-state actors, been there, tried that, failed spectacularly. You didn’t stop because of wisdom or peace, but because it backfired and became unsustainable. India has moved on. We'll do what serves our interests, whether or not it fits your narrative of “fairness” or “legality.”

But hey, keep going. I’m sure this thread will cross 1,000 pages.
 
Chandragupt Maurya said:
Hamas attacked Israel on October 7th, but Israel launched a full-scale operation against Hamas only on October 27th. We must wait before drawing any conclusions. Only time will tell whether India will respond, but I am confident that it will—and the response will be much bigger than Balakot.
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Shanti om shanti om...... don't let the demons of Pakistan torture your soul.
 
gamaji said:
Our young generations, who were taking Pakistan and the freedom and protection that it gives us Pakistanis as for granted, can now see with their own eyes what would have happened to them had Pakistan not been created. In other words, the establishment of fascist Hindutva government in India has proved the historic truth of the two-nation theory - the same two-nation theory that Indra Gandhi once claimed to have sunk in Bay of Bengal after the fall of Dhaka (i.e. the separation erstwhile East Pakistan and creation of Bangladesh in 1971). As the subsequent turn of events in the post Mujeeb Bangladesh has proven, the two-nation theory was never dead and will never die as long as Hindutva mindset remains alive in the Hindus of subcontinent India.

India's occupation of a part of the princely state of Jammu and Kashmir in 1947, under the cover of a dubious and arguably fabricated Instrument of Accession, was followed by its formal commitments given at the United Nations for holding a plebiscite allowing the people of the state to exercise the right of self-determine to decide their own future. Multiple UN resolutions were passed in 1948 through 1957 after prolonged international negotiations. India's subsequent refusal to honor that commitment and implement the UN resolutions reflects a pattern of defiance toward global norms and obligations.

Although the UN resolutions, to which India had explicitly agreed, clearly take precedence over any prior or contested accession document, successive Indian governments have increasingly cited that document to justify India’s illegal and continued occupation of Jammu and Kashmir in a clear and continued violation of UN resolutions. Pakistan cannot allow the region's right to self-determination undermined by India.
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The BD Muslims vote on the basis of the Two Nation Theory; hence, they never vote for Mujib's party which is by/of/for the Hindus....
 
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