Indian infiltration of mass migration to china plans

With a country as large as China, I can't imagine there being any need to bring in Indian workers. There are a lot of low-end workers in China in rural areas that can migrate towards central areas for low to medium income roles. China has a far far better education system than India and it can train all the hardware and software engineers it needs. Given that China is going toe-to-toe with the USA for frontier Ai models and India does not have a single Ai model as yet, shows how far ahead China is in core computer science and IT.

Alot of what India does is back office processing, and "commodity" style applications development, all of which China does already. Look at how digital, and electronic life is in China already and all of that was developed inhouse in China.

Germany has issues and may want to insource Indians for whatever reason, but here in the UK, the IT tap for bringing in India IT professionals into the UK was turned off a few years ago.
 
I'm enjoying this circle jerk. 🍿

Chinese folks are talking about a problem that's not even a problem. Based on what? A random video on Facebook. Please. Do you even know your own country?
 
I'm enjoying this circle jerk. 🍿

Chinese folks are talking about a problem that's not even a problem. Based on what? A random video on Facebook. Please. Do you even know your own country?

Yup - data and common sense goes to death at PDF, esp, when degrading India (and Indians) is involved. Post any random youtube/facebook video and have at it...

No mention of:
1) How many Indians got a work visa (by category)
2) How many have actually migrated or stayed more than 365 days
3) Where are these Indians actually working and how much do they make

Kuch nahi - silence
 
With a country as large as China, I can't imagine there being any need to bring in Indian workers. There are a lot of low-end workers in China in rural areas that can migrate towards central areas for low to medium income roles. China has a far far better education system than India and it can train all the hardware and software engineers it needs. Given that China is going toe-to-toe with the USA for frontier Ai models and India does not have a single Ai model as yet, shows how far ahead China is in core computer science and IT.

Alot of what India does is back office processing, and "commodity" style applications development, all of which China does already. Look at how digital, and electronic life is in China already and all of that was developed inhouse in China.

Germany has issues and may want to insource Indians for whatever reason, but here in the UK, the IT tap for bringing in India IT professionals into the UK was turned off a few years ago.
You may not have a full understanding of China. The "low-end workers" you refer to actually earn quite decent wages—in fact, their real income is often higher than that of many office workers employed in Grade-A commercial buildings in major cities.

In a typical smaller Chinese city (outside of the major, highly developed urban hubs), a fresh graduate from a non-prestigious university might start their first job with a monthly salary of 3,000–5,000 RMB. Meanwhile, a manual laborer—even one with no formal education or specialized skills—can earn at least 6,000–8,000 RMB per month. Those with specific technical skills often earn upwards of 8,000 RMB. Of course, manual labor is an extremely demanding and arduous line of work.

According to data from various research organizations, the wages actually paid to illegal foreign laborers performing manual work in China are often only one-third to one-half of what Chinese workers in the same roles receive.

Three prominent groups of illegal laborers in China come from:

1. Vietnam: There is a significant number of illegal Vietnamese laborers in China’s Guangxi Province, primarily engaged in seasonal agricultural work. Due to a large-scale outflow of the local population toward more developed regions, Guangxi has faced a shortage of agricultural labor. Consequently, many Vietnamese cross the border illegally to perform seasonal farm work; they do not stay long-term—arriving for the harvest or planting season and returning to Vietnam once the work is finished. Local authorities generally do not take a strict stance against this practice.

2. North Korea: There is also a large number of illegal North Korean laborers in Northeast China (in addition to a greater number of North Koreans working legally under arrangements organized by their own government). Because they are virtually indistinguishable from the local population—sharing the same attire, language, physical appearance, and behavioral habits—and given that Chinese citizens are not in the habit of carrying identification documents on their person, it is very difficult for local authorities to enforce immigration laws. Typically, law enforcement agencies do not proactively intervene unless a report is filed.

A key characteristic of both groups is that they integrate seamlessly into the local culture, with virtually no points of conflict. They do not pose any harmful impact on China, and, in most cases, it is nearly impossible for others to even tell them apart from the local population.

3. Other regions, including India. Individuals from these areas are currently the primary targets of China’s strict enforcement actions. The first large-scale issues involved Africans in Guangdong; currently, the most intense crackdown is directed at people from India and Southeast Asia.
 
With a country as large as China, I can't imagine there being any need to bring in Indian workers. There are a lot of low-end workers in China in rural areas that can migrate towards central areas for low to medium income roles. China has a far far better education system than India and it can train all the hardware and software engineers it needs. Given that China is going toe-to-toe with the USA for frontier Ai models and India does not have a single Ai model as yet, shows how far ahead China is in core computer science and IT.

Alot of what India does is back office processing, and "commodity" style applications development, all of which China does already. Look at how digital, and electronic life is in China already and all of that was developed inhouse in China.

Germany has issues and may want to insource Indians for whatever reason, but here in the UK, the IT tap for bringing in India IT professionals into the UK was turned off a few years ago.
China doesn't need middle managers and grifters. That's what Silicon Valley's "Indian talent" basically is. Just grifters, middle managers and backroom basic coding engineers.

China is better off with a dying population than importing millions of Indians.
 
You may not have a full understanding of China. The "low-end workers" you refer to actually earn quite decent wages—in fact, their real income is often higher than that of many office workers employed in Grade-A commercial buildings in major cities.

In a typical smaller Chinese city (outside of the major, highly developed urban hubs), a fresh graduate from a non-prestigious university might start their first job with a monthly salary of 3,000–5,000 RMB. Meanwhile, a manual laborer—even one with no formal education or specialized skills—can earn at least 6,000–8,000 RMB per month. Those with specific technical skills often earn upwards of 8,000 RMB. Of course, manual labor is an extremely demanding and arduous line of work.

According to data from various research organizations, the wages actually paid to illegal foreign laborers performing manual work in China are often only one-third to one-half of what Chinese workers in the same roles receive.

Three prominent groups of illegal laborers in China come from:

1. Vietnam: There is a significant number of illegal Vietnamese laborers in China’s Guangxi Province, primarily engaged in seasonal agricultural work. Due to a large-scale outflow of the local population toward more developed regions, Guangxi has faced a shortage of agricultural labor. Consequently, many Vietnamese cross the border illegally to perform seasonal farm work; they do not stay long-term—arriving for the harvest or planting season and returning to Vietnam once the work is finished. Local authorities generally do not take a strict stance against this practice.

2. North Korea: There is also a large number of illegal North Korean laborers in Northeast China (in addition to a greater number of North Koreans working legally under arrangements organized by their own government). Because they are virtually indistinguishable from the local population—sharing the same attire, language, physical appearance, and behavioral habits—and given that Chinese citizens are not in the habit of carrying identification documents on their person, it is very difficult for local authorities to enforce immigration laws. Typically, law enforcement agencies do not proactively intervene unless a report is filed.

A key characteristic of both groups is that they integrate seamlessly into the local culture, with virtually no points of conflict. They do not pose any harmful impact on China, and, in most cases, it is nearly impossible for others to even tell them apart from the local population.

3. Other regions, including India. Individuals from these areas are currently the primary targets of China’s strict enforcement actions. The first large-scale issues involved Africans in Guangdong; currently, the most intense crackdown is directed at people from India and Southeast Asia.
Importing other East Asians, or close SE Asians makes sense. Importing millions of Indians, especially considering how hostile they are against China makes zero sense.
 
Importing other East Asians, or close SE Asians makes sense. Importing millions of Indians, especially considering how hostile they are against China makes zero sense.
All nonsense discussion. China is not an immigrant country, you can check how many foreigners live in China, that’s almost nonexistent.
the percentage is ways far below even immigration hating Japan. The language barrier, food, culture, customs, politics, all make life unbearable for foreigners.
 
China doesn't need middle managers and grifters. That's what Silicon Valley's "Indian talent" basically is. Just grifters, middle managers and backroom basic coding engineers.

China is better off with a dying population than importing millions of Indians.

Many Chinese think tanks are considering the dividends of the AI era to re-nurture its population.

That's why China will no longer let the RMB to be depreciated in the upcoming years.

And 5:1 to the USD might be considered as a must to keep the purchasing value of the Chinese middle class consumers.
 
All nonsense discussion. China is not an immigrant country, you can check how many foreigners live in China, that’s almost nonexistent, the percentage is wats far below even immigration hating Japan. The language barrier, food, culture, customs all make life unbearable for foreigners.
China is not an immigrant country by choice. If it opened its doors today, there would be millions flooding in.

Given that China's birth rate is going down, it may have to loosen it's immigration policy.
 
Many Chinese think tanks are considering the dividends of the AI era to re-nurture its population.

That's why China will no longer let the RMB to be depreciated in the upcoming years.

And 5:1 to the USD might be considered as a must to keep the purchasing value of the Chinese middle class consumers.
4.5:1 is probably more realistic to its actual value.
 
All nonsense discussion. China is not an immigrant country, you can check how many foreigners live in China, that’s almost nonexistent.
the percentage is ways far below even immigration hating Japan. The language barrier, food, culture, customs all make life unbearable for foreigners.

The reflux of the oversea Chinese, and the Vietnamese women and South Korean women who are willing to marry the single Chinese men to re-boost its population.
 
China is not an immigrant country by choice. If it opened its doors today, there would be millions flooding in.

Given that China's birth rate is going down, it may have to loosen its immigration policy.
Look at what’s happening to Europe after millions of migrants from Africa, Asia coming in. Those people don’t make your country better, they make worse. I think it’s better to have a good life, then die quickly then live longer in dirty streets.
 
Look at what’s happening to Europe after millions of migrants from Africa, Asia coming in.

I think importing the eastern european immigrants might be less problematic for the western europe, but they are just russophobic in the meantime.
 
Look at what’s happening to Europe after millions of migrants from Africa, Asia coming in. Those people don’t make your country better, they make worse.
I would support importing from Korea, Vietnam, Myanmar, Laos, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Russian far east first. These people will become Chinese after 2 generations.
 
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Importing other East Asians, or close SE Asians makes sense. Importing millions of Indians, especially considering how hostile they are against China makes zero sense.
The Chinese government has no plans or measures in place to bring in labor from Southeast Asia on a large scale. Nevertheless, many individuals from Myanmar, Laos, Vietnam, and the Philippines do enter China illegally to work.
This is an unavoidable cost of China’s open-door policy. The Chinese government’s approach is to keep the situation under control, rather than resorting to forceful, large-scale deportations.
All nonsense discussion. China is not an immigrant country, you can check how many foreigners live in China, that’s almost nonexistent.
the percentage is ways far below even immigration hating Japan. The language barrier, food, culture, customs, politics, all make life unbearable for foreigners.
You may appear to be Vietnamese, but you are not truly Vietnamese.

Guangxi, China, is the country’s largest producer of sugarcane (which is primarily used for sugar production and snacks). Each year, during the harvest season, a large number of Vietnamese people cross the China-Vietnam border illegally to work for sugarcane plantation owners in Guangxi.
1. There is a shortage of local labor in Guangxi.
2. The cost of hiring illegal Vietnamese laborers is significantly lower.

Local Chinese government authorities tend to turn a blind eye to this situation—a pragmatic compromise, given that these illegal Vietnamese workers do not pose any substantive threat to social stability in China. If the local government were to attempt to bring these workers in through legal channels, the administrative procedures would be highly cumbersome and would likely spark unnecessary public controversy.

But,
this does not mean that people are unaware of the situation!

If you rely solely on English-language media from Western societies for your information, then—regrettably—you will find that this matter is rarely covered by Western English-language media, Chinese-language media, or even the media in Vietnam.

However, on Chinese social media platforms such as Douyin and Weibo, you can find a wealth of concrete evidence.
 

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