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[Joe Shearer]

Sounds amazing, because India never existed

Please can we have an end to this bullshit?

 

[r3alist]

Please can we have an end to this bullshit?

India has 100,000 years of history?
Ok sure find issue in my post then.

 

[Joe Shearer]

India has 100,000 years of history?
Ok sure find issue in my post then.

It has some 2,600 years.

As I said, please let us stop this pettifogging bullshit.

Just because one Indian, a demonstratably immature source for bulk propaganda, says silly things does not mean that the rest of us need to engage with him at his level. As you have done.

 

[r3alist]

It has some 2,600 years.

As I said, please let us stop this pettifogging bullshit.

Just because one Indian, a demonstratably immature source for bulk propaganda, says silly things does not mean that the rest of us need to engage with him at his level. As you have done.

Ok, that's probably right, in fairness.

I defer to your suggestion here.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Ok, that's probably right, in fairness.

I defer to your suggestion here.

Really obliged. Thank you for sparing my protracted embarrassment. I owe you.

Don't worry about the level of crass street corner intellect displayed by our hero. I am taking steps.

@ST1976

Why do you post these utterly foolish things like

India never invaded any country in her last 100000 years of history.

This can be described as trolling, and penalised. Be warned.

 

[Maira La]

India never invaded any country in her last 100000 years of history.

Bro, farming started 10,000 years ago at the end of Younger Dryas, and then civilization much later. And the concept of nation state only invented very recently by Europeans.

You whastapp university people live in a parallel reality of your own.

 

[Maira La]

100,000 years ago our ancestors lived in Africa, in a form intermediate between archaic and modern homo spaiens.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Bro, farming started 10,000 years ago at the end of Younger Dryas, and then civilization much later. And the concept of nation state only invented very recently by Europeans.

You whastapp university people live in a parallel reality of your own.

ক্ষমা করেন, কর্ত্তা।
এই হতভাগাদের লিগা কত আর অপমান সহ্য করতে লাগবো?

Forgiveness. I seek forgiveness on my knees. All of you, @Snake @r3alist @Maira La, have some thought for my years and the way I have spent them and leave this tripe alone.

Also the tripe-hound.

 

[Maira La]

i have less information about the Skilled workers who might have worked on Taj Mahal, but i personally guess that it might include Muslim and Hindus both. but then Mughal Rulers and others does it mean that Taj Mahal is a Islamic Building.....

It's Perso-Islamic art and architecture (domes, minarets, calligraphy, lack of statues and images of animals) to be specific.

 

[Snake]

Fact:
Only under Mughal rule has India been the largest economy in the world, surpassing the Qing dynasty in China and all of western Europe. During this period (17th century) India accounted for almost 25% of the world's manufacturing output.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Fact:
Only under Mughal rule did India become the largest economy in the world, surpassing the Qing dynasty in China and all of western Europe. During this period (17th century) India accounted for almost 25% of the world's manufacturing output.

<sigh>
This is speculative; GDP and other notions only came to be understood, and even later to be measured world-wide.
An economist*, whose name I forget, but who is associated with these GDP extrapolations into the past, has through his early single-handed effort provided the only authority for these notions.
*If you are curious to know his name, I can provide it after I have had an opportunity to consult my economist friend, who went to sleep after 3'o'clock last night.
At the time of the Mughals, the economy had started declining; it was even higher earlier. Even during the Mughal rule, Aurangzeb had ten times the income of Le Roi Soleil, Louis XIV, the richest monarch in Europe. It can only be imagined what a large share of the projected world GDP India would have taken up. However, the point is that earlier, it is estimated to have been even larger.

 

[bengalcdn]

Fact:
Only under Mughal rule has India been the largest economy in the world, surpassing the Qing dynasty in China and all of western Europe. During this period (17th century) India accounted for almost 25% of the world's manufacturing output.

This is not a fair comparison as the Mughal empire included territory such as present day Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Bangladesh. It also excluded southern India and northeast India such as assam tripura etc

 

[Snake]

<sigh>
This is speculative; GDP and other notions only came to be understood, and even later to be measured world-wide.
An economist*, whose name I forget, but who is associated with these GDP extrapolations into the past, has through his early single-handed effort provided the only authority for these notions.
*If you are curious to know his name, I can provide it after I have had an opportunity to consult my economist friend, who went to sleep after 3'o'clock last night.
At the time of the Mughals, the economy had started declining; it was even higher earlier. Even during the Mughal rule, Aurangzeb had ten times the income of Le Roi Soleil, Louis XIV, the richest monarch in Europe. It can only be imagined what a large share of the projected world GDP India would have taken up. However, the point is that earlier, it is estimated to have been even larger.

It may not be as definitive as we would like but the analysis has logic and data behind it. At this point to be convinced this was an overestimation of the production would require a stronger justification.

This is not a fair comparison as the Mughal empire included territory such as present day Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Bangladesh. It also excluded southern India and northeast India such as assam tripura etc

In this thread even Cambodia is India somehow - therefore I am playing fast and loose.

 

[Joe Shearer]

In this thread even Cambodia is India somehow - therefore I am playing fast and loose.

Akhand Bharat East.
Incidentally, my eminent but distant relative, R. C. Majumdar, had not a little to do with these narratives.

This is not a fair comparison as the Mughal empire included territory such as present day Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Bangladesh. It also excluded southern India and northeast India such as assam tripura etc

If you have strong nerves, you might like to read Richard Eaton:

• The Rise of Islam and the Bengal Frontier, 1204-1760 - Oxford University Press: 1993
• Essays on Islam and Indian history - Oxford University Press: 2000
• India's Islamic Traditions, 711-1750 (general editor). Oxford University Press: 2003
• Approaches to the Study of Conversion to Islam in India in Religious Movements in South Asia 600-1800 (edited by David N. Lorenzen) - Oxford University Press: 2005
• Temple Desecration and Muslim States in Medieval India - published: 2004

Be warned: his approach in some places upsets our views of the history of Bengal, as derived from our good old History of Bengal (Dhaka University) and similar texts.

 

[Circadian Rhythm]

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