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Sir, QUAD is not a military coalition (yet)... In fact, India do not have any official military coalition with any other nation. Our core is still NAM with a tinge of grey.

Quad as far as India is concerned is a signalling threat to China. If China gets involved direct militarily on a second front, the Quad becomes a defence agreement. Russia will no longer be an exception case.

China will supply whatever is required below its tier 1 weapons to Pakistan. Our job is to ensure the PA drops the will to fight.
 

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Wars are fought with political will, and the Pakistani race has historically lacked the political will to fight. Throughout the history of the Indian subcontinent, Turks, Afghans, and Arabs faced no resistance from what is now Pakistan. Those who resisted and fought against these invaders were from present-day India. There is no history of empires originating from Pakistan. When Afghans attacked Punjabi Muslims, it was Hindus and Sikhs who came to their rescue. Further back in history, you see the Gupta and Maurya Empires from Bihar, the Cholas from South India, and several other significant empires, but none from Pakistan.
Bro living in BC era lol.
Rich coming from someone who has a 1000 year slavery history.
 
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Bro living in BC era lol.
Rich coming from someone who has a 1000 year slavery history.
The history of the last 1000 years of slavery pertains to present-day Pakistan or the Muslims of the Indian subcontinent who chose to surrender to Islamic invaders rather than resist them. Non-Muslims remained non-Muslims, and India remained a majority non-Muslim country because people fought against Islam and Islamic invaders to protect their faith, culture, and people. I respect those who chose death over accepting Islam. There is a famous saying in Hindi: "Jinko aan pyari thi qurbaan ho gaye, jinko jaan pyari thi musalman ho gaye," which translates to "Those who valued their honor were sacrificed; those who valued their lives became Muslims."
 

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Bro living in BC era lol.
Rich coming from someone who has a 1000 year slavery history.

What matters is today now
Where is India sitting today in n global clout and where is Pakistani sitting
Who is heading towards enormous economic clout and global say so
And who is sitting with begging bowl looking for few billions in aid from Arabs china and imf

What happened yesterday is irrelevant
Today matters the most
Tomorrow is important but now is crucial 💪💪💪💪
 
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What matters is today now
Where is India sitting today in n global clout and where is Pakistani sitting
Who is heading towards enormous economic clout and global say so
And who is sitting with begging bowl looking for few billions in aid from Arabs china and imf

What happened yesterday is irrelevant
Today matters the most
Tomorrow is important but now is crucial 💪💪💪💪
Yesterday is also important; understanding the psyche of the converted Muslim race is crucial to dealing with them. Remember that the Pakistani race has a history of surrendering to foreign invaders—1971 is not the only example. They have previously surrendered to Afghans, Turks, and Arabs. The reason why Pakistanis claim to be Arabs, Turks, and Persians is due to a deep-seated inferiority complex associated with being a converted Muslim race. This inferiority complex clouds the judgment of both the Pakistani state and individuals.
 

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Yesterday is also important; understanding the psyche of the converted Muslim race is crucial to dealing with them. Remember that the Pakistani race has a history of surrendering to foreign invaders—1971 is not the only example. They have previously surrendered to Afghans, Turks, and Arabs. The reason why Pakistanis claim to be Arabs, Turks, and Persians is due to a deep-seated inferiority complex associated with being a converted Muslim race. This inferiority complex clouds the judgment of both the Pakistani state and individuals.


It also explains their reluctance towards the west dehynation of India Pakistan relations
They constantly moan when USA says our relationship with India is totally different to yours Pakistan
They are like lost child who had entered adult hood but has no idea on how to progress and join the real world

The think Kashmir and bettering India is their identity..
It's sad and massive insecurity

Apparently India is a existential threat according to their politicians and generals

Ie we need to be careful and ready India wants to wipe us from.the earth forever

Dam...we just want to be left alone plz
 

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Quad as far as India is concerned is a signalling threat to China. If China gets involved direct militarily on a second front, the Quad becomes a defence agreement. Russia will no longer be an exception case.

China will supply whatever is required below its tier 1 weapons to Pakistan. Our job is to ensure the PA drops the will to fight.

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It's not evident if Indians really see the possibility of two-front war (because of something they either have done, doing, or planning to do) or it's just their inner fear that is exposing itself. Apparently no signs of two-front war against India are visible at all.
 

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Bro living in BC era lol.
Rich coming from someone who has a 1000 year slavery history.
te sirji tussi hi dass to koiwi ik Muslim Punjabbi Hukumraan who ruled over lands where presnt day Pakistan is siuated after Last Hindu Kings were defeted by Mohd Ghauri's empire

and what and why it took from 1026 till 1192 from Mahmood Ghaznavi to Mohd Ghuri to establish Delhi Sultanate ..?

waise Marathas started taking Chauth from almost entire Mughal muslim chieftains of Rohailkhand to Awadh to Bhopal- Malwa to Deccan to Gujrat and even parts of Hydrabad Nizams territory in 1730s itself till they were finally defeted in 1848 by British

even in his famous poem SHAH ALAM SANI one of the last mouguls was called as His power was so depleted during his reign that it led to a saying in the Persian language, Sultanat-e-Shah Alam, Az Dilli ta Palam, meaning, 'The empire of Shah Alam is from Delhi to Palam', Palam being a suburb of Delhi.

and that bhadur shah jaffar used to take penssion from COMPONY BAHADUR or EAST INDIA COMPONY

so in short muslim rule in india was practically from 1192 till 1730 thats thats 538 years and even in that not a single year passed when in any part not one hindu king was fighting muslims or mughals for freedom which they even did against British but what did muslims nawabs or muslim leuge did against British ..????

we are alive today cause we faught for it and still living owr dharma proudly we dint wear burka for fear of sword or jazzia ;) :p
 

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It's not evident if Indians really see the possibility of two-front war (because of something they either have done, doing, or planning to do) or it's just their inner fear that is exposing itself. Apparently no signs of two-front war against India are visible at all.
Rather India is planning all its so called strategick asset management or whatever military term you have for it since the day Pakistan Gifter Aksi Chin part of J&K state to China and USA looked the other way when china was supplying missile and nuclear technology to Pakistan in 1980s and 1990s

we knew ever since that we have to fight alone with both China and Pakistan and in that niether USA/NATO nor USSR/Russian Block will help us

thats the main reason and was beutifully explained by S Jaishankar that Indian is in Indian camp we have to take care of owr national security and internal security /population and there interests on owr own no one will help us when there is so called TWO FRONT WAR the other .5% of that WAR is refferred to as internal sabotagers and those communists stooges that even today consider chinese permire as there head while there are many so called ISIS sleeper cells in India aswell mostly in Kerala , west bengal , Tamil Nadu and parts or Mahrashtra with there biggest concentration
 

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te sirji tussi hi dass to koiwi ik Muslim Punjabbi Hukumraan who ruled over lands where presnt day Pakistan is siuated after Last Hindu Kings were defeted by Mohd Ghauri's empire

and what and why it took from 1026 till 1192 from Mahmood Ghaznavi to Mohd Ghuri to establish Delhi Sultanate ..?

waise Marathas started taking Chauth from almost entire Mughal muslim chieftains of Rohailkhand to Awadh to Bhopal- Malwa to Deccan to Gujrat and even parts of Hydrabad Nizams territory in 1730s itself till they were finally defeted in 1848 by British

even in his famous poem SHAH ALAM SANI one of the last mouguls was called as His power was so depleted during his reign that it led to a saying in the Persian language, Sultanat-e-Shah Alam, Az Dilli ta Palam, meaning, 'The empire of Shah Alam is from Delhi to Palam', Palam being a suburb of Delhi.

and that bhadur shah jaffar used to take penssion from COMPONY BAHADUR or EAST INDIA COMPONY

so in short muslim rule in india was practically from 1192 till 1730 thats thats 538 years and even in that not a single year passed when in any part not one hindu king was fighting muslims or mughals for freedom which they even did against British but what did muslims nawabs or muslim leuge did against British ..????

we are alive today cause we faught for it and still living owr dharma proudly we dint wear burka for fear of sword or jazzia ;) :p
500 years which didn't include majority of India before arrival of mughals. I don't know how this "story" of 1000 year of rule came to be? Perhaps Pakistan is counted as India?
 

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500 years which didn't include majority of India before arrival of mughals. I don't know how this "story" of 1000 year of rule came to be? Perhaps Pakistan is counted as India?
It's a weird theory by Pakistanis, Pakistanis say that Mughals, Afghans, and Arabs attacked India, despite knowing that the part of India they attacked and looted the most is present-day Pakistan. The people they enslaved, tortured, and forced to accept Islam are the present-day Pakistani Muslims, not the Indian Hindus. I don't understand why Pakistanis don't recognize this obvious and simple historical fact.
 

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Given the poor economic state of Pakistan, it is not much of a 2nd front right now as it cannot sustain any war beyond several days anyway. The threat is overblown right now.
And when could we sustain war beyond several days with the disparity in conventional strength?

Economy is not a major factor for a prolonged war between India and Pakistan.
 

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And when could we sustain war beyond several days with the disparity in conventional strength?

Economy is not a major factor for a prolonged war between India and Pakistan.
In 1971, India was a financially bankrupt country, while Pakistan had one of the fastest-growing and strongest economies in Asia. Despite this, it took India only 12 days to invade East Pakistan, force Pakistan to sign surrender documents, and declare East Pakistan an independent country.
 
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