Iran Economy

@Hack-Hook

as one of the only Pezeshkian supporters here, can you explain to me why Pezeshkian now replaced Farzin with the guy who took toman to 90,000 and was previously impeached (Hemmati) ?

why do they always replace failures with other failures? this system always recycles the same people ... another example is Mohsen Rezaee, the guy responsible for huge military failures and huge casualties during Iran Iraq war (20,000 killed or wounded in failed Operation Karbala-4 alone) is still in important positions instead of subject to investigation for his egregious incompetence and mistakes
 
@Hack-Hook

as one of the only Pezeshkian supporters here, can you explain to me why Pezeshkian now replaced Farzin with the guy who took toman to 90,000 and was previously impeached (Hemmati) ?

why do they always replace failures with other failures? this system always recycles the same people ... another example is Mohsen Rezaee, the guy responsible for huge military failures and huge casualties during Iran Iraq war (20,000 killed or wounded in failed Operation Karbala-4 alone) is still in important positions instead of subject to investigation for his egregious incompetence and mistakes
he was not a failure in their eyes , the plan is to reduce Iranian wealth by devaluing Rial to the point that people are busy with basic needs so they can't question them. ( in mean time , they loot the money for themselves )

In their eyes Hemmati is excellent executive who can deliver what they want.


Just learn to see things from their point of view
 
he was not a failure in their eyes , the plan is to reduce Iranian wealth by devaluing Rial to the point that people are busy with basic needs so they can't question them. ( in mean time , they loot the money for themselves )

In their eyes Hemmati is excellent executive who can deliver what they want.


Just learn to see things from their point of view
I don't think Pezeshkian is corrupt, he seems like a decent and basic man. just extremely out of his depth and not equipped for a leadership position. a large number of IRI officials, of course, are definitely corrupt and extracting as much wealth as possible from the people.
 
@Hack-Hook

as one of the only Pezeshkian supporters here, can you explain to me why Pezeshkian now replaced Farzin with the guy who took toman to 90,000 and was previously impeached (Hemmati) ?

why do they always replace failures with other failures? this system always recycles the same people ... another example is Mohsen Rezaee, the guy responsible for huge military failures and huge casualties during Iran Iraq war (20,000 killed or wounded in failed Operation Karbala-4 alone) is still in important positions instead of subject to investigation for his egregious incompetence and mistakes
Mr Hemmati (not fan or voter) was right on removing نیما market's and closing it's 40% gap with market rate.Then he payed the price and got kicked out of government by Parliament's vote (very common phenomenal in every democracy :) ) for some reason we still have multiple rates for USD$ !

Second problem goes back to pillars of our economy and it's relationship with government. For example you have to give budget to parliament then if it gets Okay you may have fixed tariffs on some products but when you want to make adjustments to markets at the same time you have to adjust your new tariff regime with your newly built market (1 may have timing lag other one may not ! ) sometimes one part of government gains by this policy and other part loses so at the end you will see conflicts ...

Another issue is addiction to "free money". Some people received close to $140 billion (an amount multiple times the government's budget, without the usual back-and-forth between different political factions, and more) over the last ~7 years at below-market prices. Don't expect them to stay silent now—they have money, connections in the right places, and deep pockets to shape new policies.
 
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Mr Abdol karimi : "Some business are thinking more about their personal interests and value it above national needs ... "

As someone whom knows almost nothing about both economy and philosophy i think i've heard it from philosophers that what motivates you to move forward is your own need.i would like to hear what Mr Abdol Karimi has to say about it ?

Next will come question of why there is an structural difference between national need and business which works under this flag ?



Again let me borrow from Mr Friedman, business has no moral and no ability to think only people have these things.
 
@Hack-Hook

as one of the only Pezeshkian supporters here, can you explain to me why Pezeshkian now replaced Farzin with the guy who took toman to 90,000 and was previously impeached (Hemmati) ?

why do they always replace failures with other failures? this system always recycles the same people ... another example is Mohsen Rezaee, the guy responsible for huge military failures and huge casualties during Iran Iraq war (20,000 killed or wounded in failed Operation Karbala-4 alone) is still in important positions instead of subject to investigation for his egregious incompetence and mistakes
They devalued the currency to make iranian exports more competitive. Bazaaris who rely on imports for their business are mad while large companies are happy.
 
They devalued the currency to make iranian exports more competitive. Bazaaris who rely on imports for their business are mad while large companies are happy.
lol wut

isnt like 60% of iranian exports oil..
 
you devalued your currency for this..


iranbros..these are all commodities..

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with 9 dey protests to support IRI I think these latest protests might be over before they even started

don't expect western media to report about the 9 dey support protests though ...
 
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1 pound of copper is worth about 5 euros/dollars.

Copper is a highly demanded and not enough supply.

You don’t have to look very hard to find someone predicting a resource shortage, whether its’ peak oil or more recent concerns of a lithium shortage. The newest element of concern is copper, with predictions of severe supply shortfalls ahead. So what does the future really hold for the red metal?

It is estimated that only 12% of the world’s copper has been mined. Chile, by far the world’s largest producer with 27% of global output, as reserves to last at least another century at current rates. Copper also boasts the highest recycling rate of any base metal. The problem isn’t running out of copper, it’s producing it fast enough.



If copper were to go to 2-3 dollars per pound, Iran would only experience 100% inflation and it provides a floor on the value of the Iranian currency.

1 troy ounce coin = basic unit of new Iranian rial = ~40 euro/us cents.
lowest banknote is one basic unit and bank notes of larger value.

1/2 of a troy ounce copper coin = 20 euro cents.
1/10 of a troy ounce copper coin = about 4 euro cents.

Banknotes redeemable in copper on demand.

Extremely large withdrawals that are similar to wanting to cause a bankrun and harm the IRI, you would have a dump truck of steel coins, legal tender and equal to the value of the money demanded, to pay the demanded metal in steel currency.

I was suggesting this when copper was 3 dollars a pound. It is around 5.

Copper really can't go lower than 1 federal reserve fiat dollar, so you have a floor of around 1-3 dollars in extreme cases.

The minimum cost of producing a pound of copper can vary greatly depending on several factors such as the location of the mine, the method of extraction, and the current market conditions.

According to a report by the United States Geological Survey (USGS), the average cost of producing a pound of copper in 2020 was around $2.50. However, this cost can range from as low as $1.50 to as high as $5.00 or more per pound, depending on the specific operation.

Here are some approximate costs associated with producing a pound of copper:

  • Underground mining: $2.50 - $4.00 per pound
  • Open-pit mining: $1.50 - $3.00 per pound
  • Recycling: $0.50 - $1.50 per pound
It's worth noting that these costs are estimates and can vary depending on various factors such as:

  • Energy costs: The cost of energy can significantly impact the production cost of copper.
  • Labor costs: Labor costs can vary depending on the location and the specific operation.
  • Equipment and maintenance costs: The cost of equipment and maintenance can also impact the production cost of copper.
  • Environmental and regulatory costs: The cost of complying with environmental and regulatory requirements can also add to the production cost of copper.
Sources:

  • United States Geological Survey (USGS). (2020). Copper.
  • International Copper Study Group. (2020). Copper Production Costs.
  • Bloomberg. (2022). Copper Price.
This would not work for the government. The country is bankrupt and as such has to increase the money supply by 50% or so per year.

So the government and banks would then also have to mine and put an extra 50% of copper reserves in their vaults every year. This means that over 6 years, if vaults untouched, it would have to hold 10x more copper reserves from the start of this time period

And if they did manage to actually mine this massive amount it would cause price of copper to collapse internally harming copper businesses, copper would be smuggled out and sold for higher prices externally which would also increase corruption.

And if they don't increase the copper reserves and just keep it fixed, but increase the money supply like they are now, well that means u need more paper to buy copper which is essentially inflation.

The only real way to stop the long term inflation is to stop creating so much money. And best, stable way is to tax people and reduce Subsidies.
 
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45% of households in Iran have no personal car.
4.6 percent of households have more than 2 cars.

83.1% of households have 1 or no car.

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Top 10%(richest) uses 17.5 times of subsidized gasoline more than bottom 10%(poorest) ~2022 data. it used to be ~9x difference with 2016 data.

This gap between rich and poor when it comes to gasoline usage is :
USA 5.5x gap
Pakistan ~8.5x
Saudi Arabia 7.5x
Norway 4.33x
Indonesia 10x

To add more salt to the wound this year Iran imported $1.7 billion gasoline in order to cover possible shortages. (Nahj al-balagha ?!)


When other countries ( most of them ) import fuel they usually add little bit (or more :) ) tax to it then sell it at home but when Iran imports they subsidize it and give it to the "barefoot" !

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