Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Kyussis]

The US will absolutely not use nuclear weapons even if Iran develops them. Iran will just have to accept that once they go nuclear, the nuclear bullseye is on them as well.

What will eventually happen is a nuclear arms race in the Middle East.

You are the only country in the world to have used them at a time when Japan was already willing to surrender just to give a message to the Soviets. Why would anyone in their right mind believe that you would not use them again if given the right opportunity ie. Iran dashing to create its own Nuclear weapons? Do you expect me to believe that the U.S especially under this Trump administration is a sane actor?

 

[UberShock]

Important

 

[Pakistan First]

One Chinese forum's member said some days ago that any pause in the war would inevitably benefit more Iranian side than US.

So after 4 months, what will change US/Israel side?, more THAADs and PAC3 missiles?.

During this time, Irán can easily re-stock nearly all used missiles in the last year.

On one hand Irán is not exporting their missiles like US does with their THAADs and PAC3. On the other Irán could have eventually even some of the Su35s not to talk new TEL systems like Majid or alternative and duplicated nuclear sites.

LOL, what you are talking about. There's no comparison on earth bw Iran and the US as far as military, weapons and technology is concerned.

Iran's greatest strength is not its military, it is the geography.


War would have been over long ago had this passage not important for oil / gas. You don't need advance weapon systems to disrupt shipping in SOH. The tankers are very very costly especially with their full cargo (oil). SOH literally passes under the nose of Iran. One missile, boat, mine, UAV enough to disrupt entire traffic for weeks.

As far as missiles are concerned, there is no proof of what you said that Iran can "easily" restock the missiles used. How do you know? Do you mean the relentless bombing campaign of US didn't damaged missile production capabilities at all ? Also on reports of PAC/THAAD low on number, so same could be said about Iranian missiles. Otherwise if Iran is not low on missiles and only PAC/THAADs are low then Iran should be raining down missiles. It makes all logical sense to put pressure and come with very strong position on negotiations. The fact Iran could be low on missiles is also evident from the fact that Iran didn't hit Israel even once in phase-2 of war even when US fighter jets, bombers, tankers, awacs used primarily israeli bases. Otherwise it was golden opportunity to obilerate Israeli bases If US was truly low in interceptor missiles.

 

[Professor Jiang]

Important

"If the United States doesn't interfere, no issues should occur"

What on earth does this mean? Oman has already proven it is not independent in its decision-making on this issue.

 

[Pakistan First]

@Kyussis ego got hurt hahaha.... keep believing Iran as super power and keep making weird emotions, it only satisfies me

 

[Kyussis]

LOL, what you are talking about. There's no comparison on earth bw Iran and the US as far as military, weapons and technology is concerned.

Iran's greatest strength is not its military, it is the geography. View attachment 209594


War would have been over long ago had this passage not important for oil / gas. You don't need advance weapon systems to disrupt shipping in SOH. The tankers are very very costly especially with their full cargo (oil). SOH literally passes under the nose of Iran. One missile, boat, mine, UAV enough to disrupt entire traffic for weeks.

As far as missiles are concerned, there is no proof of what you said that Iran can "easily" restock the missiles used. How do you know? Do you mean the relentless bombing campaign of US didn't damaged missile production capabilities at all ? Also on reports of PAC/THAAD low on number, so same could be said about Iranian missiles. Otherwise if Iran is not low on missiles and only PAC/THAADs are low then Iran should be raining down missiles. It makes all logical sense to put pressure and come with very strong position on negotiations. The fact Iran could be low on missiles is also evident from the fact that Iran didn't hit Israel even once in phase-2 of war even when US fighter jets, bombers, tankers, awacs used primarily israeli bases. Otherwise it was golden opportunity to obilerate Israeli bases If US was truly low in interceptor missiles.

Iran is fighting a deranged Nuclear armed superpower with the lowest approval rating by U.S citizens for any war in U.S history. Iran does not want to antagonize the U.S by killing scores of Americans because that would only lead to a frenzy for Revenge and would likely get Iran nuked in the Process. Iran knows it has time on its side and is walking a tight rope fighting the U.S in a manner that does not get Iran nuked.

 

[Pakistan First]

Iran is fighting a deranged Nuclear armed superpower with a the lowest approval rating by U.S citizens. Iran does not want to antagonize the U.S by killing scores of Americans because that would only lead to a frenzy for Revenge and would likely get Iran nuked in the Process. Iran knows it has time on its side and is walking a tight rope fighting the U.S in a manner that does not get Iran nuked.

I actually agree with that. But I don't agree with people who start comparing Iran and Iran's capabilities at par with US. My post was a reply, it had a context.

 

[Immortals]

Bahrain under attack

 

[Immortals]

 

[KAL-EL]

You are the only country in the world to have used them at a time when Japan was already willing to surrender just to give a message to the Soviets. Why would anyone in their right mind believe that you would not use them again if given the right opportunity ie. Iran dashing to create its own Nuclear weapons? Do you expect me to believe that the U.S especially under this Trump administration is a sane actor?

I have no issue with Iran should it Go nuclear. I'll just repeat what I said that you were responding to

Once Iran goes nuclear like any other nuclear country, Iran will have the nuclear bullseye pointed at them.

And yes, it could quite possibly start a nuclear arms race in the Middle East. A very real possibility.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

Another Ship under attack

Houthi’s showing more guts than Iran

 

[ShapurII]

I have no issue with Iran should it Go nuclear. I'll just repeat what I said that you were responding to

Once Iran goes nuclear like any other nuclear country, Iran will have the nuclear bullseye pointed at them.

And yes, it could quite possibly start a nuclear arms race in the Middle East. A very real possibility.

Iran already has the nuclear bullseye pointed at us.

Obama put Iran in the list of targets where the US can use nuclear weapons against pre-emptively. We are the only non-nuclear state in that list.

 

[Flotilla]

LOL, what you are talking about. There's no comparison on earth bw Iran and the US as far as military, weapons and technology is concerned.

Iran's greatest strength is not its military, it is the geography.

Untrue.

IRGC unlike Houthies just used once an antiship ballistic missile, while Houthies have used at least 2 times just in a week.

And the geography It is a force multiplier, where a Shahed 136 with seeker can easily catch a civilian or even military vessel because they're literally a half dozen miles from the launcher.

The reality It is that Irán just self-refrained to make overwhelming attacks to civilian or military vessels.

It is Trump and not Irán who is boasting about an inminent agreement.