Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Eşbah said:
100% right. People need to understand this crucial detail.

Many users tend to overlook this point when they argue that the US will refrain from military action if the Democrats secure victory in the midterm elections.

The reality is that they will just alter the legal justification for the war in Washington, arguing that Iran is now hindering and blocking an international maritime trade route.

While their actions and war objectives will remain unchanged, the legal framework will be modified to justify a new series of attacks. The Democrats will endorse this approach, explaining to their voter base that adherence to international law is essential!

BS excuses to relaunch the war.
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One Chinese forum's member said some days ago that any pause in the war would inevitably benefit more Iranian side than US.

So after 4 months, what will change US/Israel side?, more THAADs and PAC3 missiles?.

During this time, Irán can easily re-stock nearly all used missiles in the last year.

On one hand Irán is not exporting their missiles like US does with their THAADs and PAC3. On the other Irán could have eventually even some of the Su35s not to talk new TEL systems like Majid or alternative and duplicated nuclear sites.
 
RzA said:
What do you mean by 'we'? What goes in in other Sunni majority countries is their business, nor is it our duty to drag ourselves into their problems. Funny how you also mentioned SAVAK when I can name you countless elements within the IR that oppresses people. And trust me that is not a route you want to take.
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By we I mean Iranians. Not Garb Gedda, westoid "Persians" who only want to see Iran's surrender and defeat! When did I say that Iran Should do it for them?
 
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KAL-EL said:
The US will absolutely not use nuclear weapons even if Iran develops them. Iran will just have to accept that once they go nuclear, the nuclear bullseye is on them as well.

What will eventually happen is a nuclear arms race in the Middle East.
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You are the only country in the world to have used them at a time when Japan was already willing to surrender just to give a message to the Soviets. Why would anyone in their right mind believe that you would not use them again if given the right opportunity ie. Iran dashing to create its own Nuclear weapons? Do you expect me to believe that the U.S especially under this Trump administration is a sane actor?
 
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Flotilla said:
One Chinese forum's member said some days ago that any pause in the war would inevitably benefit more Iranian side than US.

So after 4 months, what will change US/Israel side?, more THAADs and PAC3 missiles?.

During this time, Irán can easily re-stock nearly all used missiles in the last year.

On one hand Irán is not exporting their missiles like US does with their THAADs and PAC3. On the other Irán could have eventually even some of the Su35s not to talk new TEL systems like Majid or alternative and duplicated nuclear sites.
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LOL, what you are talking about. There's no comparison on earth bw Iran and the US as far as military, weapons and technology is concerned.

Iran's greatest strength is not its military, it is the geography. Hormuz_map.png


War would have been over long ago had this passage not important for oil / gas. You don't need advance weapon systems to disrupt shipping in SOH. The tankers are very very costly especially with their full cargo (oil). SOH literally passes under the nose of Iran. One missile, boat, mine, UAV enough to disrupt entire traffic for weeks.

As far as missiles are concerned, there is no proof of what you said that Iran can "easily" restock the missiles used. How do you know? Do you mean the relentless bombing campaign of US didn't damaged missile production capabilities at all ? Also on reports of PAC/THAAD low on number, so same could be said about Iranian missiles. Otherwise if Iran is not low on missiles and only PAC/THAADs are low then Iran should be raining down missiles. It makes all logical sense to put pressure and come with very strong position on negotiations. The fact Iran could be low on missiles is also evident from the fact that Iran didn't hit Israel even once in phase-2 of war even when US fighter jets, bombers, tankers, awacs used primarily israeli bases. Otherwise it was golden opportunity to obilerate Israeli bases If US was truly low in interceptor missiles.
 
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"If the United States doesn't interfere, no issues should occur"

What on earth does this mean? Oman has already proven it is not independent in its decision-making on this issue.
 
Pakistan First said:
LOL, what you are talking about. There's no comparison on earth bw Iran and the US as far as military, weapons and technology is concerned.

Iran's greatest strength is not its military, it is the geography. View attachment 209594


War would have been over long ago had this passage not important for oil / gas. You don't need advance weapon systems to disrupt shipping in SOH. The tankers are very very costly especially with their full cargo (oil). SOH literally passes under the nose of Iran. One missile, boat, mine, UAV enough to disrupt entire traffic for weeks.

As far as missiles are concerned, there is no proof of what you said that Iran can "easily" restock the missiles used. How do you know? Do you mean the relentless bombing campaign of US didn't damaged missile production capabilities at all ? Also on reports of PAC/THAAD low on number, so same could be said about Iranian missiles. Otherwise if Iran is not low on missiles and only PAC/THAADs are low then Iran should be raining down missiles. It makes all logical sense to put pressure and come with very strong position on negotiations. The fact Iran could be low on missiles is also evident from the fact that Iran didn't hit Israel even once in phase-2 of war even when US fighter jets, bombers, tankers, awacs used primarily israeli bases. Otherwise it was golden opportunity to obilerate Israeli bases If US was truly low in interceptor missiles.
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Iran is fighting a deranged Nuclear armed superpower with the lowest approval rating by U.S citizens for any war in U.S history. Iran does not want to antagonize the U.S by killing scores of Americans because that would only lead to a frenzy for Revenge and would likely get Iran nuked in the Process. Iran knows it has time on its side and is walking a tight rope fighting the U.S in a manner that does not get Iran nuked.
 
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Kyussis said:
Iran is fighting a deranged Nuclear armed superpower with a the lowest approval rating by U.S citizens. Iran does not want to antagonize the U.S by killing scores of Americans because that would only lead to a frenzy for Revenge and would likely get Iran nuked in the Process. Iran knows it has time on its side and is walking a tight rope fighting the U.S in a manner that does not get Iran nuked.
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I actually agree with that. But I don't agree with people who start comparing Iran and Iran's capabilities at par with US. My post was a reply, it had a context.
 
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