Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Professor Jiang]

Usa is a superpower nation, they fought 100+ wars. They will not back off from Iran unless Iran shows them they can defend themselves and cause a big harm to western interests. At the moment whatever Iran is doing is not enough, Usa will keep attacking Iran, destroying its military and economy until Iran folds.

How did every other empire in history fall in that case? Why is the US so special that it can sustain its own imperial project indefinitely without consequence?

 

[Immortals]

It seems the U.S. will be HEAVILY bombing Iran after the mid terms. Trump wants to avoid rocking the boat before then to avoid hurting his parties chances any more than he already has.

But after mid terms, Trump is a free unchained man to do whatever he wishes with no political repercussions

 

[MS Sandhu]

How did every other empire in history fall in that case? Why is the US so special that it can sustain its own imperial project indefinitely without consequence?

I think US would remain Dominant Superpower throughout this century. China, even if it starts today will not be able to match the US' global military footprint in another 100 years.
And to be honest, Chinese aren't even interested in countering American posture for whatever reason and you have no other country in sight that can challenge the American global reach - militarily & economically.

So your best bet is to have doomsday option against America or just playalong.

 

[PakAl]

How did every other empire in history fall in that case? Why is the US so special that it can sustain its own imperial project indefinitely without consequence?

Because USA is not alone, as long as Usa has EU, Nato, American nations, GCC, Quad as strategic allies they will stay superpower.

 

[Immortals]

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[Professor Jiang]

Because USA is not alone, as long as Usa has EU, Nato, American nations, GCC, Quad as strategic allies they will stay superpower.

The EU is currently on its knees, with many states wanting out. Nato doesn't want to get involved in this conflict, and has for a long time basically acted as a free-rider on the back of American hard power which is now being tested. GCC is fractured, not least due to UAE becoming a complete surrogate for Israel, and this war having proved how precarious the economic situation is in Gulf states.

Beyond that: nobody wants to copy the American political model, it is almost universally hated in the world, its economy is built on rigged markets and bullshit, you cannot go to a public place without risking being shot at by some psychopath, and people are increasingly incapable of having basic necessities like healthcare or housing.

Does this sound like an empire that will make it to 1000 years old?

 

[Professor Jiang]

I think US would remain Dominant Superpower throughout this century. China, even if it starts today will not be able to match the US' global military footprint in another 100 years.
And to be honest, Chinese aren't even interested in countering American posture for whatever reason and you have no other country in sight that can challenge the American global reach - militarily & economically.

So your best bet is to have doomsday option against America or just playalong.

I don't think the US necessarily needs a direct challenger like the Soviet Union to fail. It's doing a good enough job right now speedrunning its descent into unbridled fascism and a future civil war. Add to this the incapacity of its political class to think beyond enriching themselves financially or protecting Israel politically and militarily (let alone all the weird Epstein shit they're into) and you've got the recipe for disaster.

Empires don't only fall because they receive some kind of knockout blow from a rising power. It's often a death of a thousand cuts, enabled by elites taking decisions as though their empire will last forever.

Anyway, I feel this is getting too esoteric for this thread, so will return to the topic.