Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[the saint]

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

President Trump must be enjoying the Israil-Iran War! If Iran can do such stuffs to Israil, just wonder what China can do!! MAGA has been his concern, and now it's the concern of the entire West + Japan + S.Korea+.......

 

[Aggregate]

I’m thinking maybe the Chinese were part of something and why they were so urgent telling their people to flee by land nobody still knows what china was delivering to the Iranians.
I’m starting to think Chinese are choosing to have a nuclear Iran that will owe them greatly than losing another ally to America or Israel

don't know about the nukes part .. but yes, China is the only one asking their citizens to leave Israel immediately. they must know something which others do not.

 

[omegalamba7xl9]

I don't have a good feeling Asim being in the US alone for that long. I am afraid he will crumble under pressure like Musharraf and create another insurgent problem on our Baluchistan front like Musharraf did in KPK and tribal areas.

Don't worry..
NETANYAHU will beg Asim to ask Iran to stop the hell.....
Trump will ask for favour for ceasefire again ...
My gut feeling

 

[Frogen]

That's a good point and touches on a much broader issue, which is that China needs to overcome centuries of social inertia to be accepted as a global power.

People around the world are used to seeing the US and Europe as global powers and this perception has been cemented over literally centuries of dominance. The global media still perpetuates this narrative and it remains true to a large extent.

Chinese technology and military power may have matched the West but the global public doesn't look at China or a Chinese person the same way they look at a Westerner. Lots of things are subconscious and there is no way to speed things up. Some things just take time.

The Chinese people, in truth, oppose the current actions of the United States from the bottom of their hearts—not merely out of national interest or anti-American sentiment. As a result, they are doing their utmost to avoid becoming the next United States. This is a matter of worldview. In fact, I see it as a positive sign: it suggests that a country with imperial capabilities still harbors an aversion to becoming the next imperialist power.

However, I believe the Chinese are beginning to recognize the harsh realities of the world. From the India–Pakistan conflict, we can see increasingly direct and assertive voices emerging from both the Chinese government and the public. The unexpected decision to sell the J-35A (which surprised many Chinese) also reflects a shift—suggesting that China’s future diplomatic strategy is poised to become more proactive.

As for Iran, given that China's power cannot extend there in the short term—and considering Iran's many internal and external complexities—I believe Iran will still need to stand on its own for some time. Only after China gradually gains a clearer understanding of the situation might it intervene, whether openly or behind the scenes. As a Chinese saying goes: "God helps those who help themselves." If a people demonstrate a firm will to resist, help will naturally come.

 

[Psyko70]

Old video from October.

There are no attacks of significance.

Sadly.

Iran testing nuke or has nuke probability is below 10 percent, my 2 pence.

 

[RafaleSlayer]

That's not realistic. Iran had this mindset and look where it lead them.

You have to be realistic. Pakistan needs to avoid wars with superpowers, simple as that.

no Iran did not had this mindset, you need to learn the Iranian history. Iran pissed everyone off in the neighborhood, they don't have good relations with anyone, they provided open access to Indians along Baluchistan border to create problems for us and also attacked us a few years back for no reason. I am not saying that we don't maintain good relations with anyone or piss all other Muslim countries or keep issuing threats to US and Israel or any other country for that matter, but have firm believe that we are not weak and no one can just attack us and get away with it without facing serious consequences, like we behave against India, fully aware, fully ready, always ready, always cautious, but not afraid.

 

[the saint]

 

[omegalamba7xl9]

AT THIS TIME ONLY
GENERAL ASIM MUNIR CAN REACH DIRECTLY AND SPEAK DIRECTLY TO IRANIAN SUPREME LEADER KHAMENEI...
NO ONE ELSE NOT EVEN IN MUSLIM WORLD... AND THAT'S A FACT WETHER YOU HATE IT OR LOVE IT ..AND ISRAEL HAVE HAD ENOUGH.....OVER

 

[Psyko70]

Don't worry..
NETANYAHU will beg Asim to ask Iran to stop the hell.....
Trump will ask for favour for ceasefire again ...
My gut feeling

True. Will ask FM to persuade iran. We gave beating to india and usa always choose winner had we be beaten no trade talks with usa and trump being so nice would had happen. India would have full international support etc.

Slowly and gradually all muslim nations are now realizing and arabs will also do one day sooner. Otherwise bye bye.

 

[ejaz007]

China sends mystery transport planes into Iran​

Sophia Yan
Tue, June 17, 2025 at 10:04 PM GMT+5·3 min read
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CLX9877 flight from Shanghai to Luxembourg - Flightradar24
A day after Israel attacked Iran on Friday, a cargo plane took off from China. The next day, a second plane departed from a coastal city. Then on Monday, yet another departed, this time from Shanghai – three flights in three days.

Data showed that on each flight, the plane flew westward along northern China, crossing into Kazakhstan, then south into Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan – and then falling off the radar as it neared Iran.

To add to the mystery, flight plans indicated a final destination of Luxembourg, but the aircraft appeared to have never flown near European skies.

Concern has erupted in response over what might have been sent from China in the direction of Iran as Tehran’s war with Israel rages on.


The worry is real – aviation experts have noted that the type of plane used, Boeing 747 freighters, are commonly used for transporting military equipment and weapons, and hired to fly government contract orders.


Credit: Flightradar24

“These cargos cannot but generate a lot of interest because of the expectation that China might do something to help Iran,” said Andrea Ghiselli, a lecturer at the University of Exeter who specialises in China’s relations with the Middle East and North Africa.

China and Iran are strategic partners, aligned primarily in their opposition to the US-led world order, and in favour of a new “multi-polar” phase in global diplomacy.

Iran, too, is one of China’s key energy suppliers, sending as many as two million barrels of oil a day – so it’s no surprise that Beijing might be looking for ways to support and stabilise the Islamic Republic.


“The collapse of the current regime would be a significant blow and would generate a lot of instability in the Middle East, ultimately undermining Chinese economic and energy interests,” said Mr Ghiselli.

“Moreover, in Iran there are probably many that are expecting some kind of help from China.”

China has a history of supplying Iran despite international criticism – for example sending thousands of tons of ballistic missile materials that could be used in Iran’s development of nuclear weapons.

A Cargolux 747-4R7F - Boeing 747 freighters, are commonly used for transporting military equipment and weapons
Still, in this key moment, experts say Beijing is likely approaching with caution.

Getting involved directly in the Iran-Israel conflict could torpedo any change China has to stabilise its relations with the US, Israel’s strongest ally. Beijing is still reeling from a high-stakes trade war with Washington.


“The presence of Chinese military hardware would make that impossible, especially as there are already some that are pushing for the US to join the war also to contain China by attacking Iran,” said Mr Ghiselli.

While “the likelihood remains low” of China overtly sending defence materials to Tehran, the possibility “should not be dismissed and must be closely monitored”, said Tuvia Gering, a China and Middle East specialist at Israel’s Institute of National Security Studies.

Unless independent inspections are carried out, it is not possible to know exactly what the cargo planes were carrying. In later flights, some of the aircraft appear to take off from around the same area along the Turkmenistan-Iran border, and go toward Luxembourg, according to publicly available flight data.

Cargolux, the Luxembourg-based company that operated the planes, said its flights did not utilise Iranian airspace, but the firm did not respond to questions about what they were carrying.

Cargo manifests are not considered a matter of public record, and though any dangerous goods or special loads have to be declared to the operator and handling agents, information provided could be inaccurate or misleading.


China has tried before to send weapons disguised as commercial goods, labelling drone components as wind turbine parts, according to shipments intercepted by European authorities.

A Telegraph investigation last year found that China tried to send $1 billion (£738 million) of drones to Libya, hidden behind a web of shell firms in the UK, Tunisia and Egypt, in exchange for crude oil.

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China sends mystery transport planes into Iran

A day after Israel attacked Iran on Friday, a cargo plane took off from China. The next day, a second plane departed from a coastal city. Then on Monday, yet another departed, this time from Shanghai – three flights in three days.

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[the saint]

Old video from October.

There are no attacks of significance.

Sadly.

Iran testing nuke or has nuke probability is below 10 percent, my 2 pence.

All are significant attacks. you're in denial.

grok says the video is real.

 

[RescueRanger]

Drone alert: Israelis reporting drone interception

 

[Psyko70]

All are significant attacks. you're in denial.

grok says the video is real.

I could be wrong but does look like old video as iran is not sending that many missiles anymore.

Groke is not 100% sure read the line nisinformation is happening.

 

[Aggregate]

Don't worry..
NETANYAHU will beg Asim to ask Iran to stop the hell.....
Trump will ask for favour for ceasefire again ...
My gut feeling

your point carries some weight. for all his ramblings, Trump would not want to be a president that probably started the biggest ever fail in the history of US military and Middle East chaos, which is what US will bring if Iran starts taking out US bases, more Israeli targets, activates all the proxies, Houthis and Hezbollah join in and Strait of Hormuz closes. Not the kind of things Trump would wan to be remembered for. His words are never his real policy, as he backs down immediately where he sees things starting to go wrong