Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Khorasan Black Flags]

من ترجیح میدم یا این مسولیت فاسد و بزدل وارد هیچ جنگی نشیم

Reformists want to negotiate with West in middle of war

Masoud pezeshkian is even more coward than bani sadr who betrayed Iran in middle of war against Iraq

 

[ShapurII]

this is the balance against those nuclear weapons

total destruction of their cities for our cities without nuclear weapons

But it is not. Even 100,000 Khorramshahr missiles on Israel won't begin to create a balance for total destruction of Tehran and possibly other major cities in Iran with megaton nukes.

 

[OldTwilight]

Reformists want to negotiate with West in middle of war

Masoud pezeshkian is even more coward than bani sadr who betrayed Iran in middle of war against Iraq

This is thanks to SL policies which is trying to have weak and not charismatic president in power , he didn't let both Ahmadinejad and Larijani to participate in election , so now we have weak useless Pezeshkian in lower at this dire moment ....

His policies were questionable at best ....

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

This is thanks to SL policies which is trying to have weak and not charismatic president in power , he didn't let both Ahmadinejad and Larijani to participate in election , so now we have weak useless Pezeshkian in lower at this dire moment ....

His policies were questionable at best ....

Ahmadinejad and Mashai thought they have direct connection with Imam Mahdi and they don't need law and they destroyed the principlist movement. افراط و تفریط

 

[ShapurII]

This is thanks to SL policies which is trying to have weak and not charismatic president in power , he didn't let both Ahmadinejad and Larijani to participate in election , so now we have weak useless Pezeshkian in lower at this dire moment ....

His policies were questionable at best ....

Khamenei never allows another politician to be a threat to his complete grasp of power in Iran. Ahmadinejad, Larijani, Ghalibaf, they all were conservative politicians that Khamenei put aside because they were becoming too powerful.

Khamenei set the stage for Pezeshkian this time. It was possibly the lamest and most obvious election manipulation that he's been doing for decades. The Ghalibaf-Jalili dilemma served no purpose but to divide the conservatives to help a reformist win the election. The chance of a reformist winning the election was zero, particularly because of super low turnout in cities that vote for the reformists, but somehow he managed to pick a reformist out of the ballot for this sensitive period in Iran's history (Trump back in power, snapback mechanism, economic depression, energy cuts, etc.)

 

[Khorasan Black Flags]

Khamenei never allows another politician to be a threat to his complete grasp of power in Iran. Ahmadinejad, Larijani, Ghalibaf, they all were conservative politicians that Khamenei put aside because they were becoming too powerful.

Khamenei set the stage for Pezeshkian this time. It was possibly the lamest and most obvious election manipulation that he's been doing for decades. The Ghalibaf-Jalili dilemma served no purpose but to divide the conservatives to help a reformist win the election. The chance of a reformist winning the election was zero, particularly because of super low turnout in cities that vote for the reformists, but somehow he managed to pick a reformist out of the ballot for this sensitive period in Iran's history (Trump back in power, snapback mechanism, economic depression, energy cuts, etc.)

Your comments are enemy's hybrid warfare against Iran

Ghalibaf practiced in elections for several times

In 2009 election leader supported the result of elections

Larijani has relatives in western countries and according to Islamic Republic laws he cannot become a candidate

 

[ShapurII]

Your comments are enemy's hybrid warfare against Iran

Ghalibaf practiced in elections for several times

In 2009 election leader supported the result of elections

Larijani has relatives in western countries and according to Islamic Republic laws he cannot become a candidate

It's just 2+2. Everybody knew that Jalili had no chance of winning the election, but Ghalibaf had a very high chance if the conservatives voted for him. Instead, the conservative media started to portray him as a corrupt, incompetent politician to transfer his votes to Jalili. Ghalibaf is corrupt, but not more than other politicians in Iran.

But at least Ghalibaf has a good executive record. He did great as the Mayor of Tehran. He changed Tehran into a modern city with proper infrastructure. He's an IRGC general that served in one of the deadliest wars after World War II. So, he understands war. He has served as the Head of the Parliament for years. He knows how to dress for the camera, unlike most presidents that Iran has had after the revolution. And without a doubt, he's more fit for this role than Pezeshkian.

And other conservative nominees? They had zero popular support. They were there only to divide the conservatives and beat each other.

 

[OldTwilight]

As an Ousoulgara , I preferred to not write any name on my vote in previous election

 

[Persian Gulf]

But it is not. Even 100,000 Khorramshahr missiles on Israel won't begin to create a balance for total destruction of Tehran and possibly other major cities in Iran with megaton nukes.

that is enough to turn every major city in Israel into rubble

I think it works

 

[ShapurII]

that is enough to turn every major city in Israel into rubble

I think it works

I think you are highly overestimating the destruction power of ballistic missiles, and highly underestimating the destruction that a 10 megaton nuke can cause when it bursts in the air and releases an unbelievable amount of energy over the city.

I remember clearly when people, even more rational posters on PDF, claimed that 50-100 direct hits on an airbase like Al-Udaid Airbase in Qatar would render it completely inoperational. We had 36 hits in Nevatim. Sure, 7-8 missiles hit the dirt. But the damage to the airbase was minimal.

At most two medium-sized tactical nukes can wipe out all military equipment and personnel in Diego Garcia. Good luck achieving even 50% of this by firing 500 missiles at it.

We could completely destroy critical infrastructure of Israel with that many missiles, but Israel/US in return will turn the central part of Tehran into a deep crater, while the rest of Tehran and neighboring cities and satellite cities will be hit by high radiation and fatal or destructive air pressure and blast wave.

 

[FUB]

I think you are highly overestimating the destruction power of ballistic missiles, and highly underestimating the destruction that a 10 megaton nuke can cause when it bursts in the air and releases an unbelievable amount of energy over the city.

I remember clearly when people, even more rational posters on PDF, claimed that 50-100 direct hits on an airbase like Al-Udaid Airbase in Qatar would render it completely inoperational. We had 36 hits in Nevatim. Sure, 7-8 missiles hit the dirt. But the damage to the airbase was minimal.

At most two medium-sized tactical nukes can wipe out all military equipment and personnel in Diego Garcia. Good luck achieving even 50% of this by firing 500 missiles at it.

We could completely destroy critical infrastructure of Israel with that many missiles, but Israel/US in return will turn the central part of Tehran into a deep crater, while the rest of Tehran and neighboring cities and satellite cities will be hit by high radiation and fatal or destructive air pressure and blast wave.

The distance between Iran and Qatar is less than 200 miles. The IRGC will not need to use long-range missiles to hit Qatar, which can multiply the impact 100x in a short span of time.

 

[ShapurII]

The distance between Iran and Qatar is less than 200 miles. The IRGC will not need to use long-range missiles to hit Qatar, which can multiply the impact 100x in a short span of time.

It's not about distance, it's about explosive power.
Even the successful hits in Nevatim didn't do much damage.
You may assume that because the distance is shorter, the missile can take a much heavier payload, which is true. But then again, it will need a stronger engine to do that (compared to an SRBM). So, it's still going to be as expensive as an MRBM.

And the distance between Iran and Diego Garcia is +4,000 km.

 

[ToddE]

Stupid people on this forum think firing some hundred or even 1000+ missiles on US assets in the region will "scare" US/NATO+Israel. These economies thrive on chaos, more IRGC will conventionally hit them, more the USD holding will increase in the international market because of new giant defence contracts and surplus oil by OPEC (Saudis already increasing production). This happened when Iraq was attacked in Persian Gulf war as well, USD strengthened due to crisis induced purchase contracts being dealt in USD. Despite fiery speeches, BRICS could not come up with their currency, actually no one can challenge dollar.

IRI should not fall into the Anglo-American Jew trap. Best way out is test the nukes openly and announce/show deployment spread across IRGC and Artesh. Then create a new bargaining chip of backing out of Levant and Peninsula and embracing international community, basically offing the nuclear program out of the table of talk. But Khamenei's gang needs fuel for local politics.

 

[Persian Gulf]

I think you are highly overestimating the destruction power of ballistic missiles, and highly underestimating the destruction that a 10 megaton nuke can cause when it bursts in the air and releases an unbelievable amount of energy over the city.

since when Israel has 10 megaton nuclear weapons? yield of Israeli nukes is likely similar to Trident SLBM of c. 475 kt

I don't overestimate anything, all my calculations are from DeepSeek using known parameters

I remember clearly when people, even more rational posters on PDF, claimed that 50-100 direct hits on an airbase like Al-Udaid Airbase in Qatar would render it completely inoperational. We had 36 hits in Nevatim. Sure, 7-8 missiles hit the dirt. But the damage to the airbase was minimal.

I am talking about a city you are talking about an air base. they are not comparable in any way

We could completely destroy critical infrastructure of Israel with that many missiles, but Israel/US in return will turn the central part of Tehran into a deep crater, while the rest of Tehran and neighboring cities and satellite cities will be hit by high radiation and fatal or destructive air pressure and blast wave.

not just critical infrastructure but total destruction of entire cities.

this doesn't have radiation so maybe it's not as bad as nuclear attack. ok. but it's at least something to think about for them. I don't think anyone will rush to total destroy their cities

 

[Persian Gulf]

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