Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[samejjangir]

Ukraine has got thousands of foreign contractors working in Ukraine operating their systems while they train up their own peoples during a brutal war . It’s working for them I don’t see why not for you, you’re not even at war.

Ukraine is a proxy that has no soverignty and just exists as a slave of the west. That is the price for having foreign contractors.

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

Why did Israel beg US to help them, because militarily they were getting a thrashing. ...

When did that take place? When they flying all over the Iranian skies unopposed for 12 days?

 

[Master Chief]

repulsive and his community not declared te***ist?!!

had that been any of us, we would have been labelled child killers and what not!

I don't understand why it isn't called a terrorist islamophobic attack and isn't making international news.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

 

[Master Chief]

Here is what Iran is saying publicly:

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The interesting thing is though, that it is presently in Iran's interests to overstate the damage done, and then quietly resume enrichment.

That's what I would do if I was I ran.

 

[Adam Barfy]

It’s time to scrap the 2-tier army navy air force. IRGC must amalgamate with Artesh.

Iran would be better served with defence that doesn’t compete against other itself.

 

[Watandar]

When did that take place? When they flying all over the Iranian skies unopposed for 12 days?

When Israel was running low on interceptors and did not see any regime change happening in Iran. Israelis began floating the idea of a ceasefire.

Israeli security officials float option of US-declared unilateral ceasefire in Iran — report

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www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Irfan Baloch]

thanks to this war , Iranians have identified the role of Indians in Afghanistan. although we told them long time ago when we captured the RAW agent. late but better than never.

 

[K2RULEZ]

thanks to this war , Iranians have identified the role of Indians in Afghanistan. although we told them long time ago when we captured the RAW agent. late but better than never.

Awesome. Absolutely awesome. In their ugly faces. All hail Iran.

Let's get the IPC pipeline going. Let's trade and setup defence deals. We need each other more than ever. Not only do I want Pakistan Iran relations to prosper. I wants Pakistan, Iran and China relations to prosper.

 

[Cash gk]

Oh, this is interesting

 

[Al-Zakir]

thanks to this war , Iranians have identified the role of Indians in Afghanistan. although we told them long time ago when we captured the RAW agent. late but better than never.

Is this for real?

 

[ShapurII]

These are not the turbofan engines used in planes but pipeline turbines and are vastly different.

When did I say they were turbofan engines? I said cutting-edge gas turbines. You can read it again. I'm not responsible for your misunderstanding, bro.

India manufactures Su30 completely in house. But India has its own strategic needs to buy foreign jets for various reasons. Naturally, being a new jet, India would have liked to test Rafale's capabilities and fielded it in the frontlines. Tejas & Su30 have too many Indian technology which can be leaked if it falls in enemy territory. This is another concern for not using then in frontlines but only from a distance. India hasn't lost any wars. So, I don't understand your point of not winning any

I wish all the best for your aerospace industry, but do you consider Operation Sindoor a success?

The numbers don't tell everything. If Arab oil flows stop, other industries will also stop. So, it is the criticality of oil supply rather than the dollar figures. Also, the Arab oil is not really priced at $70 but there are indirect agreements to share some surplus trade wealth to Arabs so that they get more than $70 for oil but doesn't put direct price burden on manufacturers & involves risk sharing. Similarly, USA is likely required to print some dollars and hand it to offshore accounts of Arabs as part of petrodollars. Due to secrecy, none of the details will be given out.

In short, yes, Arabs have greater control on on Chinese economy due to the actual value of oil being $200+ per barrel in terms of its utility. This is also how Saudis & GCC states maintain trillions in PIF after doling out investments, remittance etc to dozens of countries like India, Egypt, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Africa etc despite surplus balance of payments not accounting to that much.

Arabs (Saudi Arabia and Iraq) export 5 million barrels per day. That's about half of the Chinese oil imports (excluding Iran figures which is confidential). It is nothing that Iran, Venezuela and Russia cannot compensate. In fact, before China switched sides, Iran used to be a major exporter of oil to China and in some years, Iran was the first exporter of oil to China. So, nothing will stop if Saudi Arabia or Iraq decides to stop the flow of oil to China. That invalidates your analysis.

 

[Master Chief]

Liberating the US from the Jews requires funding Liberal and Left-Leaning Gen Z who are shaken by images of genocide in Gaza.

Therefore, like it or not Muslims in America have to turn a blind eye to some Liberal beliefs if they want allies against Radical Evangelical Christians who are ruling America right now with an even more "Israel-first" attitude than Biden.

Sometimes we need to ally with someone even if we don't necessarily align with their core beliefs or state of being if we want to defeat a greater foe, this is just common sense.

Excellent post. A wide range of people are genuinely resentful of Israel, some purely for economic reasons. There is no reason they cannot all work together for the specific goal of dismantling a very expensive and very warmongering state.

 

[ShapurII]

Ukraine has got thousands of foreign contractors working in Ukraine operating their systems while they train up their own peoples during a brutal war . It’s working for them I don’t see why not for you, you’re not even at war.

Does Ukraine use foreign pilots? I believe one of the main reasons that they were not able to field F-16s in time was because they didn't have pilots to operate them? I could be wrong and misinformed in this case though.

It's easy to ask foreign pilots to operate your jet fighters in peace time, but when your enemy is operating F-35s and they're coming to topple your regime, do you think a foreign pilot will risk his life for you because of money? I think something more than just money is needed in this case. You'll need faith, patriotism and more.

We can actually use Pakistani pilots, but we should carefully select the ones that hate Israel with a passion. In that case, maybe it can work. But in general, hiring foreign pilots is a bad idea because during time, you need someone that is willing to risk his life for you. Otherwise, they can simply refuse to fight your enemy.

 

[ShapurII]

How about

Iran gives up enrichment (handover to Russia)
Israel withdrew from Gaza ( unarmed GAZA policed by Arab states)
Iran keeps BM program ( dirty bomb BM farm as last resort deterrence)
West lifts sanctions

It won't work. The real problem with Iran is not the enrichment itself. It is Iran's anti-Israel ideology. As long as Iran is anti-US/anti-Israel, they will always find an excuse to try to change the Iranian regime.

Did Iran have a nuclear program in 1979 when they tempted Saddam to invade Iran?