Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[BigMela2onin]

Cats out of the bag. They will go for full balkanization. There’s no way back. Going nuclear buys IRI some more time, but there’s nothing they can do in the long run.

Nuclear or non nuclear, they will keep hitting us with sanctions and turn us into North Korea. They will drop bombs on us from time to time. Once people have had enough, they will demand regime change.

That's the point where you drop nukes at every regional major population center. Nukes are useless without the will to use then.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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full article from beyond paywall:

Iran struck five Israeli military bases during 12-day war​

Strikes shown by radar data not made public due to IDF’s strict censorship



Iranian missiles appear to have directly hit five Israeli military facilities during the recent 12-day war, according to radar data seen by The Telegraph.

The strikes have not been made public by the Israeli authorities and cannot be reported from within the country because of strict military censorship laws.

They will further complicate the battle of words between the enemies, with both sides attempting to claim absolute victory.

The new data were shared with The Telegraph by US academics at Oregon State University, who specialise in using satellite radar data to detect bomb damage in war zones.

It suggests five previously unreported military facilities were hit by six Iranian missiles in the north, south and centre of Israel, including a major air base, an intelligence gathering centre and a logistics base.

Approached by The Telegraph on Friday, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said it would not comment on missile interception rates or damage to its bases.

“What we can say is that all relevant units maintained functional continuity throughout the operation,” said a spokesman.

The strikes on the military facilities are in addition to 36 others known to have pierced Israeli air-defence systems, causing significant damage to residential and industrial infrastructure.

Iranian missile strikes in Israel​

• Seven hits on oil and power facilities
• The destruction of part of the Weizmann Institute, one of the country’s leading scientific research centres
• Major damage to the Soroka University Medical Center, a hospital that sits adjacent to a campus of Ben-Gurion University in Be’er Sheva
• Strikes on seven densely built residential areas that have left more than 15,000 Israelis homeless

Analysis by The Telegraph suggests that while the vast majority of Iranian missiles were intercepted, the proportion that got through grew steadily in the first eight days of the 12-day war.

The reasons for this, say experts, are not clear but may include the rationing of a limited stock of interceptor missiles on the Israeli side and improved firing tactics and the possible use of more sophisticated missiles by Iran.

The US is estimated to have launched at least 36 THAAD interceptors during the war at a cost of some $12 million a time.

In Israel, a densely packed small country of just 9.7 million people, the piercing of the country’s famed missile-defence systems has come as a shock, with the authorities having to issue notices warning that they were “not hermetic”.

But there has also been growing suspicion within the country that military targets were hit.

Raviv Drucker of Channel 13, one of the country’s best-known journalists, said last week: “There were a lot of [Iranian] missile hits in IDF bases, in strategic sites that we still don’t report about to this day... It created a situation where people don’t realise how precise the Iranians were and how much damage they caused in many places”.

Corey Scher, a researcher at Oregon State University, said his unit was working on a fuller assessment of missile damage in both Israel and Iran, and would publish its findings in around two weeks.

In Iran, Islamic Republic officials and state media are using footage of missiles penetrating Israeli air defences in an attempt to convince domestic audiences they won the war.



Maj Gen Ali Fazli, the IRGC’s deputy commander-in-chief, appeared on state TV on Thursday night, claiming implausibly that Iran was “in the best defensive position in the 47-year history of the Islamic Revolution – never before have we been at such a level in terms of military readiness, operational cohesion, and fighter morale”.

This despite Israel’s proven ability to strike at will over the entire country and the substantial damage caused to the country’s military leadership and nuclear programme.
Nevertheless, it is likely that a large part of Iran’s ballistic missile arsenal remains untouched. Even by Israeli estimates, only half of its launchers were destroyed in the 12-day conflict and substantial stocks of missiles remain.

Maj Gen Fazli claimed that underground “cities” of missiles remained untouched in Iran.
“We have not yet opened the doors of even one of our missile cities,” he claimed on Thursday.

“We assess that so far only about 25 to 30 per cent of existing missile capability has been used and, at the same time, the production cycle is powerfully supporting this operational capacity.”

 

[Persian Gulf]

Majority of SNSC are conservative

you guys are two sides of same coin. always trying to blame each other rather than admitting any fault or taking any responsibility for your side. what a disgrace.

 

[Persian Gulf]

was anyone fired or resigned in top military, political, security, intelligence echelons for the massive intelligence and military failures?

after October 7th attacks, top Israeli intelligence and military leaders resigned

after 2006 war with Hezbollah, Israel admitted they failed to achieve their goals, and launched a public commission to fully investigate what went wrong

instead in Iran we have leaders trying to convince everyone that they won the war and we were on the brink of destroying Israel and if Israel didn't beg us for a ceasefire which we mercifully accepted out of the kindness of our heart (that has been threatening to destroy Israel for 40 years) we would have destroyed them any day now

weak countries try to pretend everything is fine and perfect, strong ones accept reality and fully investigate failures to ensure they are not repeated!

 

[Persian Gulf]

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took 11 days after the war ended for Tabriz airport to reopen

 

[Persian Gulf]

President of Iran with Prime Minister of Pakistan

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emphasised Islamic unity and thanked Pakistan for condemning Israel's attacks against Iran and its diplomatic help

 

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[Hack-Hook]

Reformists are the scapegoat. The real problem goes much deeper than just one party.

Ahmadinejad was the last president of Iran that his actions, even though very controversial, made sense.

also Ahmadinejad was the one who at his time mass infiltration start

 

[ShapurII]

also Ahmadinejad was the one who at his time mass infiltration start

There is not a shred of evidence for that.

If anything, Rafsanjani started all this by turning Iran into the slave of IMF and the World Bank.
Rohani even installed suspicious people in important positions of the government, some of them had clear ties with foreign countries. Remember how many "environmental activists" during his administration turned out to be Mossad agents spying on our nuclear and missile sites?

 

[Hack-Hook]

To be fair, neither SPARC nor Linux were supported by the US government AFAIK. What you needed were local entrepreneurs who took those inventions and commercialized them for the Iranian market and beyond.

The government can help by encouraging entrepreneurship but it may be hard with all the sanctions.

at the time of khatami SA-Iran started producing basic semiconductor.
a private company designed and produced a spark processor, we had 5 Iranian distro

after him lack of vision , not supporting the movement by later governments and infiltration by enemy spies destroyed all of that

 

[Persian Gulf]

Reformists are the scapegoat. The real problem goes much deeper than just one party.

Ahmadinejad was the last president of Iran that his actions, even though very controversial, made sense.

each side only wants to blame the other side for the problems and doesn't take accountability

in reality they are both responsible

 

[mangekyo]

That's the point where you drop nukes at every regional major population center. Nukes are useless without the will to use then.

The country is already near bankruptcy. But give it 5-10 years of Assad level bankruptcy and people will demand regime change. What’s IRI going to do? Nuke Europe unless they lift sanctions?

 

[ShapurII]

each side only wants to blame the other side for the problems and doesn't take accountability

in reality they are both responsible

Indeed. They are both like the different blades of a scissor that is cutting Iran into pieces.

I don't like how the conservatives use the reformists as a scapegoat for every wrong decision that has been made. I mean you have all the power in the system. You sidelined most of the reformists after the Green Movement. You cannot really blame these 12 years on them. You greenlighted most of their moves. How can you say the problem is only the reformists?

 

[Arash]

How many times you traveled to China!?

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Pezeshkian is an embarrassment by himself... he's our national Joe Biden, no charisma, no initiative, no pride, no visible intellect, slow, aloof and ........ sleepy

 

[Persian Gulf]

Indeed. They are both like the different blades of a scissor that is cutting Iran into pieces.

I don't like how the conservatives use the reformists as a scapegoat for every wrong decision that has been made. I mean you have all the power in the system. You sidelined most of the reformists after the Green Movement. You cannot really blame these 12 years on them. You greenlighted most of their moves. How can you say the problem is only the reformists?

if anything good happens it was because of Khamenei's divine wisdom

if anything bad happens it was solely due to reformists because Khamenei doesn't make all the decisions

Schrödinger's Rahbar