Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

yes but he didn't present some compelling counter argument and it's strange for a Muslim leader to focus on this issue and gave a lot of ammunition to the opposing lobbies in the West to caricature him

More compelling than it happened in Europe, why the people of Palestine should become homeless? It sounds pretty compelling to me.

By the way, remember when we talked about profiling IRGC officials through technology? This interview was published on Tabnak today, he is the ex-head of Mossad.

ادعای معاون پیشین موساد از شیوه شناسایی و ترورها در ایران

رامی ایگرا معاون پیشین موساد به بی بی سی گفته که از طریق تکنولوژی به ویژه موبایل دست به شناسایی و ترور مقامات و فرماندهان سیاسی ایران زده‌اند و نقش عوامل انسانی در شناسایی و ترورها را رد کرده است؛ موضعی که البته می‌تواند به جهت ردگم کنی برای پوشاندن ردپای جاسوسان و نفوذی‌های رژیم اسرائیل باشد...

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I just remembered a fun fact. In a connected graph of people (i.e. a society where people know each other), it is believed that any people two people are connected by at most 6 people in between.

So, for example, even if you are some random dude on the streets of Tehran, there is a sequence of people that connects you to Khamenei! And the length of this sequence is at most 6. It's called six degrees of separation. It just shows you how formidable big data can be when it is employed properly.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[Persian Gulf]

More compelling than it happened in Europe, why the people of Palestine should become homeless? It sounds pretty compelling to me.

this is different to disputing whether the holocaust happened, which is not a smart approach

By the way, remember when we talked about profiling IRGC officials through technology? This interview was published on Tabnak today, he is the ex-head of Mossad.

ادعای معاون پیشین موساد از شیوه شناسایی و ترورها در ایران

رامی ایگرا معاون پیشین موساد به بی بی سی گفته که از طریق تکنولوژی به ویژه موبایل دست به شناسایی و ترور مقامات و فرماندهان سیاسی ایران زده‌اند و نقش عوامل انسانی در شناسایی و ترورها را رد کرده است؛ موضعی که البته می‌تواند به جهت ردگم کنی برای پوشاندن ردپای جاسوسان و نفوذی‌های رژیم اسرائیل باشد...

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I just remembered a fun fact. In a connected graph of people (i.e. a society where people know each other), it is believed that any people two people are connected by at most 6 people in between.

So, for example, even if you are some random dude on the streets of Tehran, there is a sequence of people that connects you to Khamenei! And the length of this sequence is at most 6. It's called six degrees of separation. It just shows you how formidable big data can be when it is employed properly.

the Israelis did call multiple generals and threatened to kill their entire family if they didn't disavow the regime publicly

it seems that failed and not even one general did it

 

[Persian Gulf]

convenient timing for Internet to go down after I asked @Hack-Hook if he can criticise anything about reformists

 

[ShapurII]

this is different to disputing whether the holocaust happened, which is not a smart approach

He did it to prove a point. He said you claim you have freedom of expression. That's why you talk as you like about the prophet of Islam. OK, fair enough. Why can't we talk about the Holocaust then? That's a valid point.
Holocaust denial is a crime in many European countries, including the Zionist Russia.

the Israelis did call multiple generals and threatened to kill their entire family if they didn't disavow the regime publicly

it seems that failed and not even one general did it

Yes, it just shows you how easy it is to find IRGC generals.
You can hack into the smart phones of foot soldiers in the IRGC and if you continue to expand your network of infiltration, you will eventually get to the top leadership.

It proves that Iran truly needs to find an alternative to Western technology.

 

[ShapurII]

convenient timing for Internet to go down after I asked @Hack-Hook if he can criticise anything about reformists

Haha. You'd never get him to give you a straightforward answer about the reformists.
A knife never cuts its own handle, as we say in Persian.

 

[BigMela2onin]

Why can't we talk about the Holocaust then? That's a valid point.
Holocaust denial is a crime in many European countries, including the Zionist Russia.

Well there really isn't a question of whether it happened or not, it obviously happened. The question is why is it considered a bad thing and why is it made the problem of non-whites?

 

[Watandar]

holocaust denial is not a smart move. It's actually a trap and Israelis/Zionists are experts at exploiting it to discredit critics. A better question would have been why this excessive focus on holocaust when there were many other genocides in 20th century alone, and why not discuss the genocide Israelis are responsible for in Palestine ?

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

You just mapped out their plan for the future of Iran......now start thinking of ways to stop it.
They want to turn us into Syria, not N. Korea.....N. Korea is still a functioning state. Syria will be a failed state for decades to come.
Iran will be a huge failed state.....they will try to break us up into at least 3 pieces. Baloch, Kurds and Arab partitions. We need to stop this from happening, we cannot give them the choice to break up the oldest country in the history of the world.....(yes, the oldest, look it up).

Everyone of us has a responsibility for our civilization, I'm doing my part... all of us should.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

Perhaps you're right......but it needs to be done, at some point, if we are to survive and thrive as a nation. We need to separate church and state.....let spiritual leaders, lead us in our moral goals, and let a smart, elected government lead us in our economic goals.

We can have our own model of governance, don't forget what the sassanians said; state and religion have one origin. Clerigy, King, State, Military had close relations.

There should be a mix of militarism, religion-symbolism, nationalism, leader figure as unifier/advisor, modern governance. Somehow these elements should be balanced in a way that different layers of society would be happy and that governance serves the interests of the country and nation.

 

[shapurzolaktaf]

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What a chad leader.

 

[Developereo]

Well there really isn't a question of whether it happened or not, it obviously happened.

Correct.

The question is why is it considered a bad thing

Killing millions of people is a bad thing; there's no sense arguing anything else.

In fact, we should use their Holocaust talking points against Israel. Does 'never again' mean never again for Jews only or for all humans?

We should compare Gaza to the Holocaust and popularize the #GazaHolocaust tag.

We should point out that thirteen Holocaust survivors compare Zionist policies to those of the Nazis.

Thirteen Holocaust survivors compare Zionist policies to those of the Nazis

Thirteen Holocaust survivors compare Zionist policies to those of the Nazis One of the most worrying aspects of the International…

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and why is it made the problem of non-whites?

This should be our other focus: we are not opposed to a Jewish homeland but Palestine was never available, and the current state of Israel is a symbol of European colonialism. Let Germany donate land for a Jewish homeland, or the US and Canada can donate land for a Jewish homeland on their border.

There is an American aphorism that 'charity begins at home'. Let the Americans and/or Canadians show charity by creating a Jewish homeland in that vast continent.

 

[FuturePAF]

Sunni public opinion as a response to this war, as seen by regular people asking the opinion of Sunni Imams.

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[mangekyo]

By the way, remember when we talked about profiling IRGC officials through technology? This interview was published on Tabnak today, he is the ex-head of Mossad.

ادعای معاون پیشین موساد از شیوه شناسایی و ترورها در ایران

رامی ایگرا معاون پیشین موساد به بی بی سی گفته که از طریق تکنولوژی به ویژه موبایل دست به شناسایی و ترور مقامات و فرماندهان سیاسی ایران زده‌اند و نقش عوامل انسانی در شناسایی و ترورها را رد کرده است؛ موضعی که البته می‌تواند به جهت ردگم کنی برای پوشاندن ردپای جاسوسان و نفوذی‌های رژیم اسرائیل باشد...

www.tabnak.ir

We have AI hejab tracker.

 

[mangekyo]

yes but he didn't present some compelling counter argument and it's strange for a Muslim leader to focus on this issue and gave a lot of ammunition to the opposing lobbies in the West to caricature him

He didn’t say it didn’t happen, he said he doesn’t believe 6 million jews died. He said others like blacks also died, why do we only focus about Jews? If 6 million really died, it’s a huge tragedy, let us investigate so we can learn more. He also said even if 6 million died, it didn’t happen in Palestine, they had no part in this, why should they pay for the sins of Europeans?

Say what you will of Ahmadinejad, but he’s a great debater. I recall one reporter who asked about his opinion on something, he asked her back and she dodged it by saying her opinion doesn’t matter. To which he replied «why doesn’t it matter, you’re a human too»