Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

Where the missiles are stored is untouchable, that's why they go after the launchers and not where the missiles are stored

500m underground, even an earth penetrating nuke can't touch them. B-2 with GBU-57 FLOP can't do more but hitting surface sites of the missile site

500m underground? Is this from a reputable source?
If true, then we can still fight back in Round 2.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Accepted by a renowned Israeli newspaper.

Report: Iranian ballistic missiles struck five IDF bases during war

Satellite data from US university said to reveal strikes on intelligence base airbase and other facilities; number of successful interceptions decreased daily for first 8 days

www.timesofisrael.com

 

[Waz]

They lie through their teeth about everything especially losses.

 

[tsunset]

500m underground? Is this from a reputable source?
If true, then we can still fight back in Round 2.

There are obviously no independent verification but its widely shared that they are 200-500m underground

Iran showcases hidden underground naval base in Gulf | The Jerusalem Post

This is the second clip the Islamic regime has released of its arsenal ahead of Trump's inaugaration.

www.jpost.com

Iran's missile depots built 500 meters underground

TEHRAN, Nov. 05 (MNA) – Brigadier General Amir Ali Hajizadeh, the commander of the IRGC Aerospace Force says that there is a missile stockpile in every city in Iran, adding that Iran's missile depots are built 500 meters underground.

en.mehrnews.com

If it's an exaggeration, then it should be between at least 200m to 500m

There is a reason why they didn't bothered going for the underground bases and instead went hunting on launchers. If they couldn't reach Yemen's and Hezbollah underground complexes, i doubt they will achieve that on Iran

It's certainly not an IDF gbu-28 or a US MOP that will pierce through that

 

[BigMela2onin]

 

[tsunset]

@ShapurII

We were probably right on the launcher question

The minor damaged one were probably hit by drones with less impactful warheads
Very far from the 400 launcher claim

They also used drones from different angles to recycle the footages with higher contrast

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

It seems having decoy launchers is way forward for Iran place 20% inflatable launchers around border area

Watch Israeli waste missiles on Decoys

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

 

[ShapurII]

@ShapurII

We were probably right on the launcher question

The minor damaged one were probably hit by drones with less impactful warheads
Very far from the 400 launcher claim

They also used drones from different angles to recycle the footages with higher contrast

Yes, I saw that on Deep Dive Defense. But we don't know how many launchers we have.
The British intelligence, a few years ago, claimed Iran had only 60 launchers, which is a ridiculous claim in my opinion. I think the real number is obviously above 100.
If we have 400 launchers, then we are fine.

I really hope we are prepared for Round II.
I think Round II will probably end the war for a while, unless something big happens and Iran let it slide as usual and accepts an early ceasefire.

Round III will probably involve a coalition, if Round II doesn't achieve its goals. I don't think Israel is capable of fighting Iran alone if Iran deters Israel in Round II as well.

The one thing that can stop Round III for certain is nuclear deterrence.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

 

[mangekyo]

@Persian Gulf
How safe are our missile sites from bunker busters?

Assuming that the US does give Israel B-2 bombers and GBU-57s, can our missile bases survive this sort of bombing?

Hajizadeh claimed we would fire 10,000 missiles on day 1, but we actually launched about 500 over 12 days, averaging ~41.6 per day.

We can define a Hajizadeh factor (H) as actual average divided by the claim:

H = 41.6 / 10,000 ≈ 0.00416

He also claimed the missile cities were "hundreds of meters deep", assuming 400 m deep, we can estimate the actual depth (d) by applying H which gives:

d = 400 * H ≈ 1.66 m

This suggests that if his level of exaggeration were consistent, the real depth would be about 1.66 m

 

[Cash gk]

Interesting video on the economic fallout from some of what Iran has done in the recent 12 day war.



I don't think the negative effects will last as long on Israel as the video author tries to suggest, the connectivity is strategic for the EU, Saudi Arabia and India.

"Indian spies operating inside Iran were assisting Israel. This video explains the reason behind their actions.

 

[ShapurII]

Hajizadeh claimed we would fire 10,000 missiles on day 1, but we actually launched about 500 over 12 days, averaging ~41.6 per day.

We can define a Hajizadeh factor (H) as actual average divided by the claim:

H = 41.6 / 10,000 ≈ 0.00416

He also claimed the missile cities were "hundreds of meters deep", assuming 400 m deep, we can estimate the actual depth (d) by applying H which gives:

d = 400 * H ≈ 1.66 m

This suggests that if his level of exaggeration were consistent, the real depth would be about 1.66 m

The sad truth is that that is probably not far from the truth either lol

What bothers me is so much is the complete, nearly 100% defeat, of our drone technology. Other than one or two Arash drones, none of our drones penetrated deep into Israeli territory. And we didn't launch that many drones either. I really expected Iran to use at least 10,000 drones in the 12-day war, but I think we used fewer than 1,000 drones over all.

I really believed that Iran had over one million drones. I mean it is not impossible. Ukraine has produced over a million drones since 2024. Russia has attacked Ukraine with hundreds of Shahed drones several times in the war. Sure, the distance between Russia and the war front is obviously different, but if we had fired 10,000 drones at Israel during these days, we would've depleted US and Israeli air defenses in the region to the point of complete annihilation.

 

[Mighty_Dragon_Strike]

Hajizadeh claimed we would fire 10,000 missiles on day 1, but we actually launched about 500 over 12 days, averaging ~41.6 per day.

We can define a Hajizadeh factor (H) as actual average divided by the claim:

H = 41.6 / 10,000 ≈ 0.00416

He also claimed the missile cities were "hundreds of meters deep", assuming 400 m deep, we can estimate the actual depth (d) by applying H which gives:

d = 400 * H ≈ 1.66 m

This suggests that if his level of exaggeration were consistent, the real depth would be about 1.66 m

thats very linear and lack crystrallization
(Assumes too much action would result in too much destruction!)

even single strike would be enough (a non-linear) if it successfully takes down critical HV asset.

Further, goal was to degrade missile defenses, without consuming advanced missiles!

 

[hussain0216]

They lie through their teeth about everything especially losses.

Their is a reason why they had a total media blackout

It's all narrative, they know they have the protection, funding and weapons of the U.S go keep them out of trouble