Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[AZ_HighCountry]

My biggest fear is that the Americans want to hit Iran with some sort of a nuclear weapon to re-assert it's declining military influence around the world. If that happens, I am assuming Russia will do something similar in Ukraine which is something they're itching to do but are only restrained by China.

Seriously, just stop. The US will not hit Iran with any type of nuclear weapon.

 

[VCheng]

Netanyahu really wants to destroy Iran

Okay. So what? Is Iran going to let Israel destroy it, or do something about it? What can it do to protect itself? That is the real substance here.

Please put your neck out for a little bit regardless of which side you support?

I support Iran except for its "Death to USA" mantra, of course, but does it matter? My support one way or the other does not affect this discussion in any way at all.

Can Iran avoid a war, or are the terms to avoid a war so unacceptable that annihilation is preferable? And if that is the case, can Iran take Israel down with it, as many here seem to think?

Seem like pretty substantial questions to ponder. IMO of course.

 

[VCheng]

My biggest fear is that the Americans want to hit Iran with some sort of a nuclear weapon to re-assert it's declining military influence around the world. If that happens, I am assuming Russia will do something similar in Ukraine which is something they're itching to do but are only restrained by China.

That is mere speculation, coming from, as you admit, fear and assumptions. I cannot say anything about such speculation at all.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

For the Americans in here who still act arrogantly: Iran already has multiple nuclear warheads and the means to launch them. Iran will show it to the world when the time is right.

I'm an American. Perhaps you can point out where I've acted arrogantly?

The reality is if Iran does indeed have nuclear weapons, why have they not demonstrated this to the world already? Some of you have been openly calling for Iran to use nuclear weapons on Israel. They have not.

I remain confident that if Iran does indeed possess a nuclear weapon, the world would know about it.

 

[Meengla]

Can Iran avoid a war, or are the terms to avoid a war so unacceptable that annihilation is preferable? And if that is the case, can Iran take Israel down with it, as many here seem to think?

Now you are talking!
I could say the usual 'it is up to the Iranians to decide' But IMO, if Iran capitulates on Netanyahu's demands then Iran is finished as a sovereign nation! It was one thing for Pakistan to have bowed to the American demands after 9/11, which was the right decision looking at where Pakistan stands now; Pakistani and American geopolitical interests have never too much collided. But this is Israel vs Iran. Netanyahu and the State of Israel will never allow a credible power in their vicinity!
Otherwise, this is not America's war and had it been ANY other American President then Trump, we would not be seeing the aggressiveness against Iran and against the Middle East in general. And thus I said above: As long as Trump is the POTUS, Netanyahu will keep trying to figure out ways to destroy Iran!

 

[VCheng]

Otherwise, this is not America's war and had it been ANY other American President then Trump, we would not be seeing the aggressiveness against Iran and against the Middle East in general. And thus I said above: As long as Trump is the POTUS, Netanyahu will keep trying to figure out ways to destroy Iran!

That is why I clearly said that having a "Death to USA" mantra that others can use to their advantage in getting US support against Iran DOES NOT HELP IRAN!

It is Iran's sovereign right to seek and get nuclear technology as it sees fit, but is it willing and able to bear all the costs that come associated with such a pursuit? Pakistan clearly achieved it against all odds. Where Iran goes is all important is determining peace or war at this critical juncture.

 

[Mehdipersian]

I'm an American. Perhaps you can point out where I've acted arrogantly?

The reality is if Iran does indeed have nuclear weapons, why have they not demonstrated this to the world already? Some of you have been openly calling for Iran to use nuclear weapons on Israel. They have not.

I remain confident that if Iran does indeed possess a nuclear weapon, the world would know about it.

Iran has entered into war with two nuclear powers, Israel and the United States, at the same time. It is unlikely that Iran does not have a nuclear bomb. Also, having a nuclear bomb does not necessarily mean using it.

 

[Arash]

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Operation midnight fart........ Iran would be extremely stupid to negotiate anything with the U.S.

But I wonder when they'll deploy nukes..........

 

[tower9]

Right.
And Netanyahu laid it out many months ago and his demands basically amounted to Iran turning itself into another one of those states at the mercy of Israel to bomb and/or to 'do inspections' at will.
About the nukes, I have said it several times: That option is long gone for Iran. Had they developed enrichment many years ago, weaponized and credibly tested delivery mechanisms like Pakistan and India did decades ago then maybe a chance. But even in case of Pakistan and India, they fired missiles against each other in May 2025 despite the so-called 'nuclear deterrence'. So what of Iran vs the American might?? Iran's 'nukes' were its militias on Israel's borders but those options are greatly diminished since early 2025.
Going forward, it is the fear of American casualties and a major disruption of global trade which is preventing an all out war but I don't think Netanyahu is going to stop finding ways to destroy Iran as long as Trump is the POTUS. We have three more years to bear this tension!

The prime time for Iran to develop nuclear weapons was probably in the 90s when Saddan Hussein and a number of other anti-Israel Arab states still existed. That way Israel's attention was not fully concentrated on Iran. Now Iran is the last man standing.

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

Seriously, just stop. The US will not hit Iran with any type of nuclear weapon.

Maybe some of the "mini nukes" that Donald Trump had ordered in his first tenure to be built are now ready for testing?

09/09/2017: Trump panel said to be pushing for 'mini nukes' to make nuclear strikes easier: The Independent

 

[tsunset]

Maybe some of the "mini nukes" that Donald Trump had ordered in his first tenure to be built are now ready for testing?

09/09/2017: Trump panel said to be pushing for 'mini nukes' to make nuclear strikes easier: The Independent

What is the point of hitting Iran with nukes?

 

[mulj]

“Iran stands ready for dialogue based on mutual respect and interests—BUT IF PUSHED, IT WILL DEFEND ITSELF AND RESPOND LIKE NEVER BEFORE!” the mission said in a post on X.

Iran learnt hard lessons only strong and decisive posture can yield adequate framework for fair negotiations and demands otherwise list would never end and by that throw ball into enemy court, risky for sure and if war brake out it will maintain narrative and moral ground, i just hope that state has contingency plans for civilians as i am pretty sure that they will be targeted also as form of savageness and war tactic to brake the will of the people and army.

 

[Pakistani Dragon]

What is the point of hitting Iran with nukes?

Good for US nuclear deterrence. The world has forgotten the old one from the last century.

 

[Meengla]

It is Iran's sovereign right to seek and get nuclear technology as it sees fit, but is it willing and able to bear all the costs that come associated with such a pursuit? Pakistan clearly achieved it against all odds. Where Iran goes is all important is determining peace or war at this critical juncture.

Bolded part. It is not basically up to Iran to decide, sad as it is to say. It is up to Netanyahu to prevail upon President Trump to destroy Iran while taking risks to the global economy and risking American casualties. But Iran does have somewhat of an 'option': Comply with Netanyahu's unacceptable demands to buy short term peace and de-escalation, and some above have mentioned those demands in last 1-2 days.

As long as Trump remains the POTUS, I don't see the circumstances changing and thus the war clouds will remain over Iran. Netanyahu and Israel firsters were solidly behind the candidate Trump as POTUS for some really valid reasons leading to the 2024 elections.

The current situation would not be happening even if J.D. Vance was the President. People here just don't truly appreciate how much power is exercised by the personality of a POTUS!

 

[GoshtWalaPulao]

Bolded part. It is not basically up to Iran to decide, sad as it is to say. It is up to Netanyahu to prevail upon President Trump to destroy Iran while taking risks to the global economy and risking American casualties. But Iran does have somewhat of an 'option': Comply with Netanyahu's unacceptable demands to buy short term peace and de-escalation, and some above have mentioned those demands in last 1-2 days.

As long as Trump remains the POTUS, I don't see the circumstances changing and thus the war clouds will remain over Iran. Netanyahu and Israel firsters were solidly behind the candidate Trump as POTUS for some really valid reasons leading to the 2024 elections.

The current situation would not be happening even if J.D. Vance was the President. People here just don't truly appreciate how much power is exercised by the personality of a POTUS!

POTUS is a puppet. He can't make any independent decisions. He probably can't even fart without getting approval from his jewish masters. That's how it's been in the US since probably kennedy. There is no point pretending that these guys have some sort of free will to govern how they like. Every act is orchestrated by them not trump.