Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

SolarWarden said:
No attack will take place during Olympics.
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It's not about special events. Trump is a narcassist. He does not like long term wars. Trump prefers quick operations where he can achieve something quickly then get back to being center of attention and spoken out for other achievements/drama.

If there was a suistained campaign in Iran, he would be livid being questioned about it on a daily basis while having rest of his legacy be ignored. He will get most flack if it becomes a forever war.

The operation US did in Yemen was more so lead by his administration and US allies. Also meant to test US Navy capabilities before any attack on Iran. Those Yemeni strikes at the sea were actually hurting shipping insurance rates and greatly increasing costs, damaging US logistics industry.

Now keep in mind compared to Israel, the number of people killed in Yemen were around 150-300. During those two months. Israel killed 30,000 people in Gaza from Oct-December. Shows you how satanic and evil Israel is, and that Israel literally sought to exterminate an entire nation...

US was doing average of 30-50 strikes per day in Yemen.

I don't know how many naval assets that required. US military claimed to hit 1,000 targets during that duration.

US was sensitive to the humanitarian crisis in Yemen and general state of being in Yemen. And didn't go out to get people.

In Iran there would be a mix of refuelers and bombers. US would commit to hundreds of strikes a day for two months if Trump signs off on a big operation. Iran would have to fight back with it's full force. Iran has much bigger capacity to hurt US forces and stunt global energy supply than Houthi's do.

Trump is unlikely to commit to such a large operation that could drag on.

His safest bet is Israel does a repeat attack then both sides call it quits until later in summer 2026. And US restarts talks again while Iran is in weaker position.

Obviously US military doctrine has changed. They will not do regime change forever wars anymore. Analytics play big part in today's decisions. They'll try to come up with something rapid and most cost effective. If they can't, they simply won't commit to it. It seems likely they simply don't have good options when it comes to regime change.
 
Israel wants to screw the US and US taxpayer so badly

If any such war is initiated, Israel will disappear during it, leaving consequences to Iran, Arab states, Turkey, Pakistan, the United States and others.

Everyone would be significantly weakened and refugees would apply enormous economic pressure on these states leaving only Israel on top at the end of it all

No one but Israel stands to gain from such a war. And Israel views other ethnicities in the region's losses as wins for it

It doesn't care how many Americans die. All that matters it every other non-Jewish ethnicity in region get screwed so the Jewish ethnicity can dominate because it naturally cannot without introducing unnatural events to the region to harm others

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StrategicBear said:
INTERNET INTEL - GROUND INVASION Planned To Seize The Iranian Oil Fields

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Last week, I reported that the United States had begun a significant deployment of ground forces to the Middle East by air, citing as one example a 747 operated by the U.S. Transportation Command, configured to carry 453 people, departing from Baltimore.

For this, I was accused of exaggerating and told there was no way the U.S. would launch any kind of ground invasion of Iran.

I can now confirm that the U.S. is indeed shipping M1A1 Abrams tanks to the Middle East, specifically to Jordan. (Image #2)

If the U.S. has no intention of entering Iran by land, why are we sending main battle tanks to Jordan?

I suspect the U.S. intends to seize the Iranian oil and gas fields. The map below shows that almost all of these fields are located in the far west of the country. (Image #3)

From the border with Armenia (where U.S. military equipment and troops are also flowing in) to the vicinity of the Kuwaiti border (where other U.S. forces are flowing in), and all the way to Bandar Abbas (facing the Persian Gulf and all our major Middle Eastern military bases/U.S. allies).

It seems to me that if we seize the Iranian oil and gas fields, the entire Iranian government will collapse within a week or two.

No long, drawn-out war.

This is just a guess, based on publicly available images and news reports.
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That’s very dumb. Its much easier to just bomb them.
 
Shadi hassan said:
i think the missiles being limited 150 miles would be the most humiliating thing and coming from Israel is even funnier because they keep saying those missiles were basically ineffective it really makes you wonder what they hit on those bases that they won’t let anyone report on.
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Haha, I was about to post something similar when I saw your post. I remember being on the PDF, when we had Israelis and others ridiculing our missile tech.....calling it crude, scuds....etc.
If you want to see what they're afraid of, or if you want to see how effective the missiles were in the 12 day war all you need to do is see their demand list.
No need to see video of the damage or photos of proof. They're basically confirming it........
 
tsunset said:
Mass arrest of regime change reformists
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They're dropping the pantomime of a democracy.....by rounding up the opposition they're basically signalling a dictatorship of some sort.
 
Strategic objectives
American B-52 bombers capable of carrying nuclear weapons landed at Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar, Arabia, in conjunction with threats against Iran.

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StrategicBear said:
INTERNET INTEL - GROUND INVASION Planned To Seize The Iranian Oil Fields

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Last week, I reported that the United States had begun a significant deployment of ground forces to the Middle East by air, citing as one example a 747 operated by the U.S. Transportation Command, configured to carry 453 people, departing from Baltimore.

For this, I was accused of exaggerating and told there was no way the U.S. would launch any kind of ground invasion of Iran.

I can now confirm that the U.S. is indeed shipping M1A1 Abrams tanks to the Middle East, specifically to Jordan. (Image #2)

If the U.S. has no intention of entering Iran by land, why are we sending main battle tanks to Jordan?

I suspect the U.S. intends to seize the Iranian oil and gas fields. The map below shows that almost all of these fields are located in the far west of the country. (Image #3)

From the border with Armenia (where U.S. military equipment and troops are also flowing in) to the vicinity of the Kuwaiti border (where other U.S. forces are flowing in), and all the way to Bandar Abbas (facing the Persian Gulf and all our major Middle Eastern military bases/U.S. allies).

It seems to me that if we seize the Iranian oil and gas fields, the entire Iranian government will collapse within a week or two.

No long, drawn-out war.

This is just a guess, based on publicly available images and news reports.
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This is not confirmed.....we need better sources.
 
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