Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Falcon29]

The challenges for Anti Ship ballistic missiles go beyond maneuverability - and are more dependent upon having surveillance and targeting in place . Without persistent, real-time ISR (intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance) networks they are flying blind. Iran's coastal radars are all prone to jamming and satellites are an unknown.

Forgive my ignorance, but do guidance systems of these anti ship missiles depend on coastal radars or are they heat seeking or how do they work?

I absolutely agree with your points. Iran cannot sink an aircraft carrier. But it has ability to disrupt operations if we look at Yemen example.

US used F-35 lightning, F18 and F16 in that operation against Ansarallah in Yemen. Houthis fired mix of drones, cruise missiles and anti ship ballistic missiles at one carrier. Probably a small number, maybe one or a few came close to hitting, but it stressed the crew and caused two F18's to crash. Could be pilot error but the pressure likely played a role.

I don't believe US military could lose this war but the US government most certainly can. US cannot defend the energy infrastructure well enough in the region. Nor it's bases as well as Israel protected. I really believe Israel is more protected than the US military because US government prioritizes Israel over our own military.

 

[Falcon29]

Enemy Media (Israeli media)

The Home Front Command is conveying emergency instructions to municipal police departments through various mayors.

 

[Falcon29]

Don't use our military to help the modern Nazi state which is engaged in an active Holocaust in Gaza

Absolutely no way the global public gets behind a war on behalf of Israel

 

[GWXP]

It seems like, based on experience of the 12 Day War, Trump now believes Iran is bluffing when it threatens to close the Strait of Hormuz.

If US starts a shooting war, Iran should take out entire Kuwaiti oil industry as a warning and to impose costs on the West.

Iran and its people must not be afraid of war with the US.

Trump/Netanyahu's bark is worse than their bite.

 

[Falcon29]

Latest Updates on the U.S. Military Buildup in the Middle East

• 6× E-3 Sentry AWACS aircraft have either already arrived or are en route to the Middle East. Four Sentries were forward-deployed from Ramstein AB and RAF Mildenhall to Prince Sultan AB in Saudi Arabia, while two remain at Ramstein.

• 6× F-22 Raptor stealth fighters arrived yesterday at RAF Lakenheath, bringing the total to 12 jets. These jets are expected to fly to the Middle East within the coming days.

• 36× F-16 fighter jets are either already forward-deployed to the Middle East or preparing to deploy from Lajes. The jets were from Aviano (12), Spangdahlem (+12), and McEntire Joint National Guard Base (12).

• 30× U.S. Air Force F-35A Lightning II fighters have arrived in the Middle East, 18 from RAF Lakenheath and 12 from Morón/Rota Air Bases.

• 6× EA-18G Growler electronic warfare aircraft are deployed at Muwaffq al-Salti Air Base and are now operating out of the base.

• 2× E-11A Battlefield Airborne Communications Node (BACN) aircraft [carrying tail numbers N770AG and 22-9046] have departed Ramstein and arrived at Prince Sultan AB, Saudi Arabia. There are now 5 BACNs stationed there.

• 1× RC-135 Rivet Joint signals intelligence (SIGINT) aircraft is scheduled to deploy from Homestead to Chania, Greece. This will increase the number of Rivet Joints based there to two, as the aircraft that had been operating near Iran for the past month has now repositioned to Chania as well.

• U.S. airlift operations with C-17 Globemaster III and C-5M Super Galaxy heavy-lift aircraft continue in the region, with over 210 flights recorded so far since mid-January 2026. This includes around 21 C-5M flights to Al Udeid AB (Qatar), Prince Sultan AB (Saudi Arabia), and Camp Lemonnier (Djibouti).

• ~50 U.S. aerial refueling tankers, including KC-135s and KC-46s, are currently positioned across the Middle East (Al Udeid and Prince Sultan ABs), and nearby locations, as Diego Garcia, Chania in Greece, and Sofia Airport in Bulgaria.

• USS Gerald R. Ford Carrier Strike Group (CSG) is approaching the Strait of Gibraltar and is expected to stay in East Med, off Israel. Meanwhile, the USS Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group continues to operate off Oman in the Arabian Sea.

• 5× U.S. Navy guided missile destroyers are operating independently in the region, not including those in CSGs: two in the Mediterranean, two in the Strait of Hormuz/Persian Gulf, and one in the Red Sea.

 

[asifhaq]

The challenges for Anti Ship ballistic missiles go beyond maneuverability - and are more dependent upon having surveillance and targeting in place . Without persistent, real-time ISR (intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance) networks they are flying blind. Iran's coastal radars are all prone to jamming and satellites are an unknown.

You guys should recall the sinking of the Russian flagship in the Black Sea all it took was a couple of drones and one anti-ship missel to send it to the bottom.

 

[Falcon29]

It seems like, based on experience of the 12 Day War, Trump now believes Iran is bluffing when it threatens to close the Strait of Hormuz.

If US starts a shooting war, Iran should take out entire Kuwaiti oil industry as a warning and to impose costs on the West.

Iran and its people must not be afraid of war with the US.

Trump/Netanyahu's bark is worse than their bite.

IRGC is not afraid and won't be restrained this time around.

Problem is their airspace is vulnerable following the 12 day war. They probably didn't anticipate fighting an entirely asymmetric war with the US and/or Israel in this sense.

IRGC is not like Hezbollah (imo more ideologically tough/motivated than Hezbollah). They're probably having same risk tolerant posture as Hamas right before 10/7 but for different reasons. Because strategic patience has bought time and served its role up to this point. Now a different posture is entering into play.

 

[Falcon29]

This situation sucks for Iran in the sense window to preemptive attack successfully has kind of gone with all the defenses in the region and early warning radars.

Hamas saw writing on the wall that Israel will attempt takeover of Gaza in Trump's second term so it pre-empted it and caused significant damage on Israel.

Iranian government doesn't want to be seen as irresponsible and can't take risks like Hamas so it didn't preemptively strike. This means Iranian 1st and 2nd wave of retaliations will not be that effective so we will have to be patient if US attacks, people on this forum will be screaming for retaliation or be defeated for a week or so. Iran will then later get back on its footing.

 

[Mr Iran Eye]

There are people who don't seem to understand and are very impressed by the US arms imports into the region, but you're forgetting a major point: IRAN.

Russia, China, and Belarus supply weapons to Iran, and the Iranian military industry mass-produces weapons 24/7. Every day, weapons of different types leave the factories. And that, too, is very impressive.

 

[kastor ville]

The first wave of attacks is going to be on the missile bases.....they can't execute their plan if Iran can still keep firing missiles.....Knowing this Iran should be planning to have options outside of missile bases.
second, every command and communication building will be targeted, knowing this Iran should move the entire brain network of the military to an offsite hidden location or to hardened bunkers.
Every division should have their own battle plans that they will need to execute in case of a comms black out.......they need to be independent of central command, if they get cutoff.
As far as the naval assets are concerned...the carrier needs to be the main target, this way the sorties will be reduced, and give time for the Iranian missile command to target airbases.

 

[aerospace_enthusiast_newb]

Can you give me their names ? Anything is possible with Trump and Netanyahu , they are amoral sick killers. But using a nuke is crossing a very dangerous red line and will be followed up by Russia doing the same to Ukraine and a mass scramble for nukes around the world. Hence I don't think it's going to happen.

He is almost certainly talking about Col. Daniel Davis, he has a show on youtube.

 

[mangekyo]

There are only three viable replacements for the Islamic Republic when it falls:
1. A reformist/oligarchy group inside Iran led by people like Hassan Rohani, or Mojtaba Khamenei.
2. Reza Pahlavi
3. MEK

Anybody who thinks you can magically come up with some democratic replacement for the IR is stupid and beyond delusional. There is no other option other than those 3 realistically. MEK is hated by literally everybody in Iran and in diaspora. So, it is either Reza Pahlavi or the reformists/oligarchs in the Islamic Republic. There is no other real alternative.

It is absolutely clear to anybody with eyes that the Iranians are tired of the reformists and oligarchs inside Iran. In fact, January protests must have made that sufficiently clear. The popularity of reformists and oligarchs in Iran is even lower than the IRGC at the moment.

So, if the US decides to go for regime change and accepts all the risks and troubles that will come with it, do you think they will hand over the new system to people like Shamkhani's son or Hassan Rouhani when they can start over and create a new Iran under Zionist control? That's hilarious.

Pahlavi is also hated by most Iranians. He will be killed the second he lands in Iran. That is if he even has the balls and will to land in Iran. Before the protests, he said he is more American and doesn’t want to go back to Iran. He could have been a viable option had he not been so openly Zionist and called for bombing of Iran and Iranians.

The only viable option is IRGC led coup with reformists at top. Nothing else would work. Its either that or Balkanization which is what I believe they have planned for us? Do I support a reformist coup? No, but I will take it over Balkanization any day.

 

[GWXP]

US concern regarding Iran is Iran's development of nuclear weapons and ICBMs that can reach US territory.

Issues with US can be solved with agreement that will put limits on Iran's nuclear program and with Iran stopping development of ICBMs in exchange for sanctions relief.

But Trump is incompetent and is under heavy influence of Netanyahu who wants to drag US into a war with Iran.

12 Day War between Israel and Iran proved that Iran can be deterred from attacking economic targets and convinced US and Israel that they can make a limited attack on Iran's ballistic missile and nuclear program without Iran closing the Strait of Hormuz or attacking oil infrastructure of the region.

Deployment of significant US military assets to the region is expensive and is an indicator that US will certainly strike Iran in the coming weeks.

So what we will see is several weeks of shoot-out between the US and Iran with US Air Force and Navy conducting strikes on Iran's ballistic missile and nuclear programs and with Iran returning fire by striking US military bases in the region with ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and drones.

If controlled it will last few weeks with both sides exchanging strikes.

If situation goes out of control there will be massive destruction with Iran's economic infrastructure in ruins and global economic depression after Iran closes the Strait of Hormuz and destroys oil facilities of the region.

After the war Iran will move its missile production sites deep underground and eventually develops nuclear weapons.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[Ali_Baba]

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