Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

Pahlavi is also hated by most Iranians. He will be killed the second he lands in Iran. That is if he even has the balls and will to land in Iran. Before the protests, he said he is more American and doesn’t want to go back to Iran. He could have been a viable option had he not been so openly Zionist and called for bombing of Iran and Iranians.

The only viable option is IRGC led coup with reformists at top. Nothing else would work. Its either that or Balkanization which is what I believe they have planned for us? Do I support a reformist coup? No, but I will take it over Balkanization any day.

Is that why the regime had to shut down the internet for 3 weeks, and kill 3K people and injure 25K people (per their own official statistics) in just 2 days to suppress the pro-Pahlavi protests? lol Like it or not, Pahlavi is by far the most popular choice. He has millions of supporters inside and outside Iran.

People hate the IRGC right now. If you think after January protests, people will support the IRGC, you are wrong. Majority of Iranians are waiting for the US to bomb Iran. You just need to talk to Iranians on Instagram, YouTube, reddit, X, or even your co-workers. They are even calling for the US to take action against the regime in Iran and you think Iranians want the IRGC to continue their plundering of our wealth for the Arabs in Palestine and Lebanon? You can't mean that.

There is no balkanization of Iran at this point. If anything, I would be afraid of the Balkanization of Iran by a regime that has always prioritized Islam and Arabs over national interests of Iran.

 

[ToddE]

Are they testing Qadr-474 ? they are the longest range (2000 KM) AShCM in Iranian possession ?

Land attack capability is limited to 2500 KM with Soumar LACM.

 

[ToddE]

Iranian extremism and self loathing is legendary and amusingly has always been there even when we had cross-continental empires. One of the biggest Shahenshah of one such empire used to call himself "Sinner" in his poetry. In this world people support their 50% debted countries with average income lower than most of the African Union but our "I told you so" soothsayer aay holes have to somehow shit on Iran 24/7 so that they can "prove" it to their own countrymen that they were right. We are are own worst enemy.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

The challenges for Anti Ship ballistic missiles go beyond maneuverability - and are more dependent upon having surveillance and targeting in place . Without persistent, real-time ISR (intelligence, surveillance, reconnaissance) networks they are flying blind. Iran's coastal radars are all prone to jamming and satellites are an unknown.

There are some new factors in play... Iran has transitioned to Beidou... previously Houthis were showing similar yet much inferior capabilities without any ISR... however they were getting some targeting inputs. Increased manifold by improved systems, better guidance, maneuverability and targeting data.
This is not something that has been fielded or previously used against an advanced adversary. The CSGs need impunity to operate in uncontested environments... once that space becomes challenged the whole operation is jeopardized. What many do not understand is that US is actually leveling up its posture in accordance with the threat.
Where Iran has no choice but to hit the gas as soon as the lights blare red... and there is only so much that canbe done within an already saturated field... making additions redundant and fallout guaranteed.

 

[Ali_Baba]

The USN successfully countered Iranian origin anti-ship missiles during the attacks on Yemen ( with hindsight a good workout against Iranian origin systems ).

Has Iran addressed the problems of why they were so ineffective against the USN, can Iran be sure that their own systems will be more successful ?

 

[ShapurII]

The USN successfully countered Iranian origin anti-ship missiles during the attacks on Yemen ( with hindsight a good workout against Iranian origin systems ).

Has Iran addressed the problems of why they were so ineffective against the USN, can Iran be sure that their own systems will be more successful ?

Those were warning shots. I'm sure nobody in the Iranian military, or Houthis, is stupid enough to think they can target US carriers with single shots.

Iran's only chance of actually damaging a USN protected asset is by overwhelming their air defenses first. Something that hasn't been tried before.

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

One nuke attack anywhere wil cause shit to hit the fan and everyone will get into war…..i don’t think the Americans will risk that……but false flag or psy op by isrsel u never know.
Zions are willing to torch the entire world it seems.

What if Iran use dirty bomb against Israel? It just need to reach israel, not even need to hit anything. Infact Israel AD kill won't do any good to it.

 

[جوبا]

What if Iran use dirty bomb against Israel? It just need to reach israel, not even need to hit anything. Infact Israel AD kill won't do any good to it.

A dirty bomb near AlAqsa? what are you even suggesting

 

[ShapurII]

What if Iran use dirty bomb against Israel? It just need to reach israel, not even need to hit anything. Infact Israel AD kill won't do any good to it.

It will cause radiation poisoning and make one or two small cities inhabitable for a while. Fatalities will be in the range of thousands to tens of thousands.

In response, Tehran will be nuked with powerful strategic bombs that will kill at least one or two million people in short time and injure north of 5 million people. And most of these 5 million injured cases will die too, because Iran's healthcare system will have already collapsed in that scenario. And it will flatten Tehran and nearby satellite cities. Not really worth it, is it?

 

[tsunset]

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

A dirty bomb near AlAqsa? what are you even suggesting

It will cause radiation poisoning and make one or two small cities inhabitable for a while. Fatalities will be in the range of thousands to tens of thousands.

In response, Tehran will be nuked with powerful strategic bombs that will kill at least one or two million people in short time and injure north of 5 million people. And most of these 5 million injured cases will die too, because Iran's healthcare system will have already collapsed in that scenario. And it will flatten Tehran and nearby satellite cities. Not really worth it, is it?

Not near AlAqsa but near Tel Aviv and other Jew populated area and I am not suggesting to use it actually but present it as deterent.

 

[tsunset]

What's this gibberish ? Why are you Iranians bringing Pakistan into your sht ? "Pakistanis are slaves like Indian " what does that mean?

I said they (Americans) sees you as slaves, not that you are a slave.

 

[ShapurII]

I am not suggesting to use it actually but present it as deterent.

Something that is suicidal and everyone knows you won't dare to use it will not give you deterrence. If anything, it will only be used to convince the world that Iran is an immediate threat and needs to be handled at any cost.

 

[Watandar]

Then again they have probably attacked directly or via proxy every Muslim country in the region. You cannot dream of attacking other Muslim countries and try to represent yourself as a model country.

If by "they" you had meant the US/Israel and by "proxy" you had meant Pakistan or Turkey or GCC then you would have been correct. People living in glass houses should not be throwing stones. Let's return to the topic.

 

[SiliconBit (silicon0000)]

Something that is suicidal and everyone knows you won't dare to use it will not give you deterrence. If anything, it will only be used to convince the world that Iran is an immediate threat and needs to be handled at any cost.

Agreed. That's a valid point.