Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Tamerlane said:
US Core demands (confirmed across multiple sources)

These are the main pillars repeated in credible reporting:
  1. Dismantle Iran’s nuclear program
  2. Permanently renounce nuclear weapons
  3. Zero uranium enrichment on Iranian soil
  4. Hand over or neutralize enriched uranium stockpiles
  5. Strict international inspections (IAEA oversight)
  6. Limit or halt ballistic missile development
  7. End support for proxy groups (Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis)
  8. Stop funding regional militias
  9. Regional arms limitations
Expanded conditions (from latest leaks / Axios-style reporting)

Additional conditions reportedly included:

10. Freeze missile development programs
11. Dismantle key nuclear facilities
12. Tight control over centrifuge activity
13. Broader regional de-escalation commitments
14. Long-term verification mechanisms

What about the “15th demand”?
  • Reports say “14 of 15 demands” were disclosed, but one remains unclear or undisclosed
  • It’s likely tied to long-term enforcement / guarantees, but not confirmed publicly

Iran’s demands (commonly summarized as ~6 positions)

Iran has not issued a single official numbered list, but across Reuters, Axios, and other reports, its position boils down to roughly these:

Iran’s core demands / red lines
  1. Right to uranium enrichment must be preserved
  2. Talks limited only to nuclear issues (no missiles, no proxies)
  3. Full sanctions relief (especially oil and financial sanctions)
  4. Access to frozen assets and ability to export oil
  5. Recognition of peaceful nuclear program rights
  6. No preconditions or coercion (no military pressure during talks)
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So basically duffers could not come with 15 demands and repeated one objective at least 3 times haha what a shit show by yankees
 
ShapurII said:
Safriz is either extremely anti-Iran or he's trolling.
A civilian airport still has jet fuel depots at the minimum. There are many ways that a civilian airport can be used for military purposes and I'm sure he knows that.
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Sectarian bias/Miliatry fan boys could be any reason.. 2-3 types of guys are anti iran as of now, every one else is rooting for Iranian success against lying zios.
 
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Guys I'm sorry to be a little doomy & gloomy here, but I have bad feelings about that whole "backchannel" circus.

By markets closure on Friday they will :

-start massively bombing the electrical grid
-deploy the 82nd along with support from the MEUs

The two will be done in conjunction with a surge in bombings also in the planned deployment theater. Another Shock & Awe, try to develop with an assault at Chabahar , possibly already agreed with local Baluch insurgency. The Kharg/Kurdish thing is a ruse, and a bad one at that. They made a fuss about Kharg while it does not make any real strategic sense, and try to fool us into thinking supporting separatists elements in not on the cards with the Kurdish "disqualification". They might be reactivated in tandem with Baluchis.

There are long-terms plans with Iran. They are absolutely not done, not even close. They will erode it bit by bit, on the longer run, in low-intensity bombings like it's being done , punctuated with high-intensity when magazines and maintenance cycles allow. The power plants assault is one big , visible catalyst to the demise of the state they're looking for, I hope we don't get to this, but a lot of signs are pointing. Iranians may be brave and proud, but there are physical limits to what a country can take in terms of raw destruction I'm afraid.

All the ridiculous talk about negotiations is a disgraceful farce thrown at our faces for the third time. Trump is having his fun and absolutely loves berating Iranians as if they were nothing, it's appalling. He's enjoying his little monologue and knows that the whole world knows he's full of it. He simply does not care and will move ahead with his marching orders from Netanhyahu. Those "terms" are as unacceptable as they can get by design, yet again, the ballistic program by its mere reported presence means it's a done non-deal. Trump want to slaughter Iran and Iranians, period. They should never have said no to him. He cannot take no for an answer when he declares it's time for you to submit, that's the dark reality.

If anything he set it up exactly like last time : "as I told you day after day this week, we made progress, and then some more, and suddenly they stopped cooperating. I did all I could to avoid that, but now we really have to go all the way I guess. It's back to obliteration".

Let's hope there are enough vatan doost ready to at least put up a decent fight. I won"'t preach anything like an armchair general sitting thousands of miles away from that hell... sad times we live in. I simply keep some hope. Maximum strenght to the people.
 
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America is building up troops in the Gulf and going in for talks ? This is another repeat of Feb 28. They want to hold talks under the barrel of a gun. My prediction, either America will accept Iran's 6 point conditions or Israel will sabotage the talks with some major attacks on Iran that will force Iran to take drastic measures like hitting GCC energy infra or desalination plants, thereby ensuring USA keeps fights.
 
Gryzor said:
Guys I'm sorry to be a little doomy & gloomy here, but I have bad feelings about that whole "backchannel" circus.

By markets closure on Friday they will :

-start massively bombing the electrical grid
-deploy the 82nd along with support from the MEUs

The two will be done in conjunction with a surge in bombings also in the planned deployment theater. Another Shock & Awe.

There are long-terms plans with Iran. They will erode it bit by bit, on the longer run, in low-intensity bombings like it's being done , punctuated with high-intensity when magazines and maintenance cycles allow.

All the ridiculous talk about negotiations is a disgraceful farce thrown at our faces for the third time. Trump is having his fun and absolutely loves berating Iranians as if they were nothing, it's appalling. He's enjoying his little monologue and knows that the whole world knows he's full of it. He simply does not care and will move ahead with his marching orders from Netanhyahu. Those "terms" are as unacceptable as they can get by design, yet again, the ballistic program by its mere reported presence means it's a done non-deal.
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Spot On. This is what is going to happen, Its strange to see that there are Iranians who still believes that US/Israil are going to negotiate to end this war..

They will not stop until Iran is converted into a failed rogue state like Libya and others. This has been the real goal now since their plans of having a soft civilian coup has failed miserably and not looks likely in short or long term, with each passing day, with each bomb dropped public anger is increasing.
 
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- US military document leaked to me shows how the Pentagon is working with private companies to manipulate the information you see about the Iran war
The Pentagon has quietly dictated to spy satellite companies what to say about the Iran war, exercising censorship over what the American public is allowed to know.Military sources tell me that the level of secrecy surrounding the specifics of the Iran war is unprecedented, with barely any data being released about the level of bombing, the targets being attacked, or the assessed effects. Now the Trump administration is trying to further control what private companies say in a behind-the-scenes effort not been previously reported.As the American and Israeli bombing of Iran commenced on February 28, the military promptly issued guidance to satellite operators of what “language and terms to avoid” when describing damage caused by Iran to American bases in the Middle East, according to a copy of the guidance leaked to me.
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Gryzor said:
Guys I'm sorry to be a little doomy & gloomy here, but I have bad feelings about that whole "backchannel" circus.

By markets closure on Friday they will :

-start massively bombing the electrical grid
-deploy the 82nd along with support from the MEUs

The two will be done in conjunction with a surge in bombings also in the planned deployment theater. Another Shock & Awe, try to develop with an assault at Chabahar , possibly already agreed with local Baluch insurgency. The Kharg/Kurdish thing is a ruse, and a bad one at that. They made a fuss about Kharg while it does not make any real strategic sense, and try to fool us into thinking supporting separatists elements in not on the cards with the Kurdish "disqualification". They might be reactivated in tandem with Baluchis.

There are long-terms plans with Iran. They are absolutely not done, not even close. They will erode it bit by bit, on the longer run, in low-intensity bombings like it's being done , punctuated with high-intensity when magazines and maintenance cycles allow. The power plants assault is one big , visible part of it to acceleration the demise of the state, I hope we don't get to this, but a lot of signs are pointing.

All the ridiculous talk about negotiations is a disgraceful farce thrown at our faces for the third time. Trump is having his fun and absolutely loves berating Iranians as if they were nothing, it's appalling. He's enjoying his little monologue and knows that the whole world knows he's full of it. He simply does not care and will move ahead with his marching orders from Netanhyahu. Those "terms" are as unacceptable as they can get by design, yet again, the ballistic program by its mere reported presence means it's a done non-deal.

If anything he set it up exactly like last time : "as I told you day after day this week, we made progress, and then some more, and suddenly they stopped cooperating. I did all I could to avoid that, but now we really have to go all the way I guess. It's back to obliteration".
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We will make it a quagmire for them and an economical nightmare for the world. Many of them will be sent back to US in caskets, Houthis will join and a Holy War/Jihad will be started in different regions, Iraq, Iran, Yemen and who knows extended to other places. Bab-al-mandab will be closed and oil will be 150-200 a barrel.
 
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Gryzor said:
Guys I'm sorry to be a little doomy & gloomy here, but I have bad feelings about that whole "backchannel" circus.

By markets closure on Friday they will :

-start massively bombing the electrical grid
-deploy the 82nd along with support from the MEUs

The two will be done in conjunction with a surge in bombings also in the planned deployment theater. Another Shock & Awe, try to develop with an assault at Chabahar , possibly already agreed with local Baluch insurgency. The Kharg/Kurdish thing is a ruse, and a bad one at that. They made a fuss about Kharg while it does not make any real strategic sense, and try to fool us into thinking supporting separatists elements in not on the cards with the Kurdish "disqualification". They might be reactivated in tandem with Baluchis.

There are long-terms plans with Iran. They are absolutely not done, not even close. They will erode it bit by bit, on the longer run, in low-intensity bombings like it's being done , punctuated with high-intensity when magazines and maintenance cycles allow. The power plants assault is one big , visible part of it to acceleration the demise of the state, I hope we don't get to this, but a lot of signs are pointing.

All the ridiculous talk about negotiations is a disgraceful farce thrown at our faces for the third time. Trump is having his fun and absolutely loves berating Iranians as if they were nothing, it's appalling. He's enjoying his little monologue and knows that the whole world knows he's full of it. He simply does not care and will move ahead with his marching orders from Netanhyahu. Those "terms" are as unacceptable as they can get by design, yet again, the ballistic program by its mere reported presence means it's a done non-deal.

If anything he set it up exactly like last time : "as I told you day after day this week, we made progress, and then some more, and suddenly they stopped cooperating. I did all I could to avoid that, but now we really have to go all the way I guess. It's back to obliteration".
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I don't think all of this would happen at once but yeah, that's pretty close to their plan and it's just the tip of the iceberg.

This is why I insist that this war either results in the capitulation of Iran or it ends in Iran going nuclear and breaking free from the US bullying. There's no middle ground.
 
I think until the Americans actually “try” a ground game in Iran there will always be a lingering question or fascination among NeoCons “what if we did?”. Since Carter no president wanted to try again, but I have a feeling they need to be reminded why.

I think until either:

A) a military disaster occurs or
B) the beginnings of a global economic meltdown;

the U.S. won’t finally throw in the towel.
 
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