Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[koolio]

This statement from the IRGC (if it was) does not correlate with the known facts as of now.

Bro I have just seen Donald trumps tweet, the guy has clearly lost his marbles, he wouldn't by saying things like that if the rescue operstion was successful which has come at a very heavy price, I have never seen any American president so desperate in my life time.

 

[Alex]

Remember they had to first find the guy. So they had search craft scouring the countryside. This was not a simple we fly a Chinook over the border, land at coordinates x,y and grab him.

When they did find him...THEN they could send something like a Chinook to extraction coordinates x,y.

This was a two step process...not a one step.

One thing is clear: the pilot definitely disclosed her location to the Americans somehow. With time it would become clear what method was used and that Americans knew her precise location for the rescue to start. Definitely the Iranians were not aware of her location; they had been looking and announcing a reward for the location.
Hamartia, please update us on what kind of plan would send the C130s for rescue and then send Chinooks to rescue the crews of C130s and choppers? Why were the Chinooks not sent initially? If they did, she could have been rescued, and the USA wouldn't lose so many assets.

 

[Immortals]

Well like everyone said he had a device where they knew where his location they probably sent multiple rescuers in different locations to mislead the Iranians into going to different spots when they thought they had a enough breathing room they sent the rescue unit I don’t think Iran was going to send thousands of soldiers with no air cover

It doesn’t appear Iran ever even sent professional ground units likely due to fog of war or the fear it was a diversion to get iran to commit forces in order for the enemy to actually attack Isfahan.

Instead they had militiamen and Basij handle it.

 

[the saint]

 

[BigMela2onin]

It doesn’t appear Iran ever even sent professional ground units likely due to fog of war or the fear it was a diversion to get iran to commit forces in order for the enemy to actually attack Isfahan.

Instead they had militiamen and Basij handle it.

No you don't understand, Iran should have sent an entire armored division out to capture this pilot, now that they failed, unconditional surrender is the only option /s.

 

[the saint]

 

[lamdacore]

Someone should shoot him between the eyes before it's too late. He's a danger to world peace for real.

Actually that might be the best thing someone in the US can do if they want to get out of this war. Assassinate this madman and get someone sane to negotiate an end to the war.

 

[Immortals]

There are instances where it goes wrong.

In Afghanistan war, 4 spec ops were trapped by Taliban ambush fire. A helicopter rescue team was sent in and one helicopter was shot down killing I believe 16 spec forces.

If in this operation even 1 C-130 was hit by a manpad or two, it could have lead to the loss of dozens of soldiers and basically ended President Trumps presidency from a legacy standpoint.

The U.S. got very lucky on the downed location and timing. But respect goes out to US spec ops, they are second to none in their field.

 

[Wingzero30]

Actually that might be the best thing someone in the US can do if they want to get out of this war. Assassinate this madman and get someone sane to negotiate an end to the war.

Same thing needs to happen to his master Netanyahu also

 

[Immortals]

People sometimes forget how big Iran is and how hard it is to cover its terrain. Helpful reminder




And the terrain:

 

[the saint]

 

[Immortals]

6th Iranian missile wave of the day towards Israel

 

[KingQamaR]

There were a lot of benefits to this trip

• While iran sabotaged existing runaways (Tehran Mehrabad) to prevent runaway landings. This operation made Iran remember there are still old runaways and flat areas were enemies can land
• Helped reduce the likelihood of a uranium operation given how much equipment and how many mechanical failures happened on this trip
• Act as a real life war game for Iranian planners to respond to quick rapid deployment of U.S. forces

Iran [hopefully] learns from this and adjusts its ground force doctrine to the realities on the ground

I’m surprised (American’s)they're telling all this publicly, so if anyone else needed to use that path in the future, they won’t be able to.

 

[the saint]

 

[Arash]

There are instances where it goes wrong.

In Afghanistan war, 4 spec ops were trapped by Taliban ambush fire. A helicopter rescue team was sent in and one helicopter was shot down killing I believe 16 spec forces.

If in this operation even 1 C-130 was hit by a manpad or two, it could have lead to the loss of dozens of soldiers and basically ended President Trumps presidency from a legacy standpoint.

The U.S. got very lucky on the downed location and timing. But respect goes out to US spec ops, they are second to none in their field.

If even the Brits write it.........