Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Immortals said:
You want Iran to find 1 pilot in this terrain:

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Last picture is Lordegan area which is just KMs away from where helicopters were reported.

Judging Iran’s ground forces because they cannot find a needle in a haystack is very short sighted.

US special forces are the best in the world. Hands down. No debate. The U.S. military excels at two tasks really really well: Blitzkreig air attack operations (Midnight Hammer) and Special Forces raids (Bin Laden raid, Al Baghdadi raid).

You cannot expect Iran to match the U.S. in either of these two areas or even come close.

The good news is, Iranian islands and coastline won’t be invaded by tens of thousands of special forces, it will be infantry and marines having to attack then hold territory and defend. That’s very different than quick infiltration operations by highly skilled operators
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Well like everyone said he had a device where they knew where his location they probably sent multiple rescuers in different locations to mislead the Iranians into going to different spots when they thought they had a enough breathing room they sent the rescue unit I don’t think Iran was going to send thousands of soldiers with no air cover
 
Shags101 said:
So I was actually right the son of a gun was alive I’m guessing he definitely has a movie deal @AZ_HighCountry
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Even Trump admitted he is severely injured. My initial theory that he was dead wasn’t that far of.

I don’t think we have the full story and he still may pass away.
 
Zoyou said:
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Am still trying to decipher the threat of " living in hell" does he mean in this world or hereafter?????IS IT A PHYSICAL THREAT OR MULLAH TYPE SPIRITUAL THREAT???
 
Ali_Baba said:
This statement from the IRGC (if it was) does not correlate with the known facts as of now.
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Bro I have just seen Donald trumps tweet, the guy has clearly lost his marbles, he wouldn't by saying things like that if the rescue operstion was successful which has come at a very heavy price, I have never seen any American president so desperate in my life time.
 
Hamartia Antidote said:
Remember they had to first find the guy. So they had search craft scouring the countryside. This was not a simple we fly a Chinook over the border, land at coordinates x,y and grab him.

When they did find him...THEN they could send something like a Chinook to extraction coordinates x,y.

This was a two step process...not a one step.
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One thing is clear: the pilot definitely disclosed her location to the Americans somehow. With time it would become clear what method was used and that Americans knew her precise location for the rescue to start. Definitely the Iranians were not aware of her location; they had been looking and announcing a reward for the location.
Hamartia, please update us on what kind of plan would send the C130s for rescue and then send Chinooks to rescue the crews of C130s and choppers? Why were the Chinooks not sent initially? If they did, she could have been rescued, and the USA wouldn't lose so many assets.
 
Shags101 said:
Well like everyone said he had a device where they knew where his location they probably sent multiple rescuers in different locations to mislead the Iranians into going to different spots when they thought they had a enough breathing room they sent the rescue unit I don’t think Iran was going to send thousands of soldiers with no air cover
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It doesn’t appear Iran ever even sent professional ground units likely due to fog of war or the fear it was a diversion to get iran to commit forces in order for the enemy to actually attack Isfahan.

Instead they had militiamen and Basij handle it.
 
Immortals said:
It doesn’t appear Iran ever even sent professional ground units likely due to fog of war or the fear it was a diversion to get iran to commit forces in order for the enemy to actually attack Isfahan.

Instead they had militiamen and Basij handle it.
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No you don't understand, Iran should have sent an entire armored division out to capture this pilot, now that they failed, unconditional surrender is the only option /s.
 
ShapurII said:
Someone should shoot him between the eyes before it's too late. He's a danger to world peace for real.
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Actually that might be the best thing someone in the US can do if they want to get out of this war. Assassinate this madman and get someone sane to negotiate an end to the war.
 
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There are instances where it goes wrong.

In Afghanistan war, 4 spec ops were trapped by Taliban ambush fire. A helicopter rescue team was sent in and one helicopter was shot down killing I believe 16 spec forces.

If in this operation even 1 C-130 was hit by a manpad or two, it could have lead to the loss of dozens of soldiers and basically ended President Trumps presidency from a legacy standpoint.

The U.S. got very lucky on the downed location and timing. But respect goes out to US spec ops, they are second to none in their field.
 
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