Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Tremain]

is the sand a good shield against gbu-57 ??

Yes. It is far better than rock/granite. Unlike rock, sand absorbs 85% of incoming kinetic energy in just a few feet. And it "self heals".... the hole closes up again.

But it does depend on how deep your setup is.

 

[delta2]

Former top adviser to Ghalibaf, Majid Shekeri view on Pakistan’s intentions to help:
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Pakistan needs to ship 10 nukes to the KSA. They need to test four, one each day for four days in a row, and then wait a few days, and test the fifth one.

Otherwise things will go out of control.

 

[Abdul q]

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[ety]

So the fierce wars with Vietnam and the Soviet Union in 1960s, 1970s and 1980s are not counted. But the US "experiences" with Iraq, Afghanistan, Serbia and Venezuela are counted.

Same with how Western weapons are "proven" in battle. They are "proven" in bombing and firing missiles to innocent people, or primitive guerillas (which even a WWII aircraft can do). When being used in real wars like in Ukraine, how "proven" they are?.

The Iron Dome is one clear example. Sky-high evaluation by Western media before war, almost useless in real wars, even against rudimentary rockets made from water pipes and fertilizers by Gaza militants. Not to mention they fire hundred of thousand dollar missile to prevent a several-thousand dollar rocket. Without the continuous pumping money by the US and the West, how long Israel can withstand the missile attack from Iran?

And who can forget the 1962 Sino-India war too.

To many Yanks and Westerners, before was Chinese weapons junk, now PLA war skills suck.

 

[Forsvaret]

Otherwise things will go out of control.

As if they haven’t already? :

 

[Watandar]

Former top adviser to Ghalibaf, Majid Shekeri view on Pakistan’s intentions to help:
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What is being misunderstood here is that Iran wants to use its existing leverage for a permanent deal now, not just another ceasefire. A more enduring arrangement. Else Mr Trump , Mr Netanyahu and their GCC proxies will simply break any ceasefire few months from now when their position improves.

 

[Desert]

Doesn't Egypt have mountains?
Do you know how deeply buried these sites are?

we have mountains but I haven't found any photos of any missile cities buried there, and no I don't know how deeply these sites are but I hope it's deeply buried and we must learn from Iran's war.

 

[Immortals]

Well depends if it is directly underneath...

In reality mountains provide a natural barrier... the composition of the rock matter and I'm not so sure how much protection at which depths sandstone can provide.

Sandstone doesn’t provide much protection and those pictures one is just an engine test stand, the other looks like a modest missile rotor site all above ground or with very little bunker depth. And the one underground photo again looks more like some engine testing center given it had a flame containment tunnel.

But it begs the question, In what universe would these weapons ever be used?

I don’t get why these Arab countries build these elaborate militaries stacked with Western tech that are riddled with kill switches. If Israel were to ever attack Egypt, Egypt’s most prized weapons wouldn’t survive long and there is a decent chance like this current war, America would also tag along.

So I don’t understand what the point of this military build up is that Arab countries do. They will never be used against Israel or any western country. And Iran hasn’t invaded in the neighbor in hundreds of years. So it seems A waste of money when the Egyptian economy could use more investment.

 

[Abdul q]

There’s unpredictable level of censorship of last 24 hours of hell iran gave to Israel…. Especially tel aviv area where all attacks were concentrated

 

[Forsvaret]

What is being misunderstood here is that Iran wants to use its existing leverage for a permanent deal now, not just another ceasefire. A more enduring arrangement. Else Mr Trump , Mr Netanyahu and their GCC proxies will simply break any ceasefire few months from now when their position improves.

Exactly! Israel used similar strategy to get rid of Hamas in Gaza with war-ceasefire-negotiation done on repeat. Iran learned from it and thus refusing to fall into the same Zionist trap.

 

[clutch]

Well I am with Iran right now but few years back tgey were doing the same thing with Syrians along with Russia.. Also citizens of Lebanon and Yemen are hostage to their proxies and their homeland and lives have been destroyed because of their jangustic policies.. Israel is a genocidal country but Iranians are also not far behind.. Where as for Arab nation if ceasefire succeed than Arab should now build their own muscles not outsource them..

We have to judge by the present not past history. Anyone who stands in alliance with the Zionist is the enemy. Period.

 

[Immortals]

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[Desert]

probably more HIMARS in bahrain or kuwait .I hope Iran and IRGC are ready to target this force and send them back in coffins.

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[IceCold]

15 concussions

To be fair, the Americans and the Israelis somehow always get injured and never killed.

 

[dr.coomer]

Wait, so you are daft enough to believe that the Divide Conquer has not been the fundamental policy and the main goal of life for the European powers for the last 500+ years?

Did you read about how the treaty of Westphalia came about and what the European ruling class at that time was proposing to prevent future strife and wars in Europe?

I need to know where you stand and your capacity of understanding, and comprehension, before I start teaching you about the deeper philosophical, religious, racially-hierarchical, strategical and core interest driven planning of the European ruling elite for the past 600+ years.

I will take you back to the round table of King Arthur and bring you back all the way to Operan Ajax, and then bring you into the 21st century.

When the student is read, I will teach!

So you are admitting that the GCC has no capacity to make independent thought? Then why go through the effort of typing all this off-topic stuff? No need to lift their balls.