Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Aggregate]

To all my Pakistani brothers, let's be honest here. The only reason you think this ceasefire is a good deal is because your country is involved in this. No problem I would maybe feel the same as you. But from an Iranian POV I don't understand how you can take this. Please put yourself in our shoes.

I am not supporting this because its from Pakistan, I am supporting this because lives of millions of people are hanging by a thread tonight ... and either evreyone (that includes US) either swallow our pride and stop this all here or we can go down a path that nobody can predict from here on.

I feel this is a good deal because if this chance does not work then there is no way back at all. Right now Iran can leave at a power of position, having given concessions. Tomorrow can turn out to be terrible for everyone involved. Lives of any child, any woman, any adult, if saved tomorrow, is worth more than any war that can go either way in the future.

 

[r3alist]

I’m starting to think Pakistan might be working for the Saudis and trump two weeks is probably more than enough time to regroup and rearm and bring more soldierss into the region if that offends anyone not trying to bubuwithout any ironclad guarantees it’s just going to give Trump and Israel more time to find out how to takeout Irans offensive capabilities and I don’t see Russia or china coming to the rescue with weapons or troops he’ll not even North Korea

It is as if Pakistan's good will and previous statements ultimately does not mean much, I understand the stakes are high but so are the costs.

You do realize that to remain as an interlocutor you have to have good offices with all relevant parties and sometimes you need to signal to them that you are getting their message across as well, talk about a thankless task, in this context


What about all of the previous statements made in favor of Iran before?


Also if there is a ceasefire and the Americans or the israelis look as if they are breaking it then Iran would be entitled to continue to retaliate, Pakistan is trying to broker an agreement, they are obviously in no capacity enforcing anything, so the aim is to come up with just some formulation that allows a lasting peace.

Just some formulation that works, that is it

I think Pakistanis are being tremendously goodwilled that perhaps you should allow yourself to accept this.

 

[hasssanali8998]

The S&P 500 erases all losses and turns green on the day as Pakistan asks President Trump to extend his 8 PM deadline by 2 weeks.
The S&P 500, or Standard & Poor's 500 Index, is a stock market index tracking the performance of 500 of the largest publicly traded companies in the United States.

 

[dbc]

Yes, Iran will feel the enormous pain, but your enemy will be tagged as anti-humanity maniac by the whole world.

millions dead for a tag? what's wrong with you?
Iran is not getting nuked.

 

[KingQamaR]

Very admirable of China

 

[r3alist]

China is suffering big time too of energy Hormuz Straits is closed , 100 tankers to maybe 5 reaching China.

It's literally getting the most favorable treatment, so in terms of relative advantage it is very very content

 

[Oracle]

Any news

Will there be cess fire or war will go on?

 

[hasn2009]

Thank god some users have IQ’s above room temperature here.

Correct.

Iran opening the strait:

• Drops oil prices and helps Trump and removes key Iranian leverage over global economy
• Gets oil and LNG to countries that support Israel and U.S. (Europe, Argentina, Japan, South Korea, etc)
• Allows Israel/US to reposition its air defenses and radars from satellite imagery and get additional assets in place

Iran gets:

• 2 weeks of time to ultimately be asked to surrender or get bombed again

And several Pakistan users on here think this is a “fair” deal.

2 weeks of ceasefire is not at all fair deal for Iran, it only helps US/Israel, and at best, it only delays Iran's supposed destruction by 2 weeks.

 

[Bharatah]

Destruction of two drones in the sky of Hormozgan: Public relations of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps: A Lucas drone and a reconnaissance drone were intercepted and destroyed in the skies of Hormozgan by the IRGC's modern air defense system under the control of the country's integrated air defense network.

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Corax]

Pakistan users here who support the proposed deal only because it came out of the mouth of the Pakistan’s PM.

If Modi of India had delivered such a proposal they would be screaming how bad such a deal is and that India and Israel will stab you in the back.

Well we all agree about israel, the indians have already stabbed you in the back, and they're meant to you be your friends. We want to stop Iranians being killed, if you think that's backstabbing, can't help you with that. We'd equally like to see you keep fighting the Americans and israelis, but don't want to see Iranians being hurt.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Falcon29]

Very admirable of China

To be clear this is Bahraini resolution at UN and not proposal mentioned by Pakistan

 

[Feroze]

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[Aziqbal]

did Pakistan Prime Minster buy shares in some oil companies and was in on the bluff against Iran to see if they flinch ?

if not well done to him