Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[BigMela2onin]

The involvement of China is very key here. I hope the Iranian govt will reverse its policy of foreign military bases and allow China ; PLAAF / PLAN to have some bases there so that Zionist scum think twice before attacking again. In the meantime China and Russia should both invest and help Iran rebuild the steel industry, shipyards, railways and bridges asap. Chinese construction speed is efficient and faster and will help Iran get on its feet.

I'm skeptical China would even agree to that regardless of Iranian willingness.

 

[kobra]

US/Israil Objectives Before War which changed many a time in last 40 days but mainly were:

*Getting rid of Islamic revolutioniary "regime".

*Turning the tide from within by using general public and sponsored faction through intellegince agencies

*Completely obilerating nuclear program and destroying/extracting that HEU somewhere hidden inside Iran.

*Eliminating the missile and drone program and firing capability which possess exsistential threat to Israil And local allies in GCC.

*Stopping Iran from sponsoring non state hostile actors in Iraq, Lebanon and Yemen.

*Complete unconditional Surrender.

Despite eliminating whole lot of leadership including supreme leader, its safe to say that US/Israil didnt achieve its main objectives. If their goal was to eliminate 86 years oldman along with his old friends, grandchildren and lots of other children and burning some infrastructure, industries then yeah they achieved it.

Otherwise strategically it will be considered as an utter failure for US/Israil. Iran stands like a chuadry in region right now who confronted multiple entities including two nuclear war machines.

 

[SolarWarden]

Some hinting that China helped I say to them, stop! This was all Pakistan and all credit to Pakistan China may have said something but Iran already agreed with Pakistan and no spin is going to change that.

 

[Starlord]

Iran confirms meeting in Islamabad, Friday.

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broooooooooo Imagine PAF fighters escorting Iranian FM's plane into Pakistani Territory and visual that will came out of Islamabad will be historical.

 

[dbc]

I'm not convinced the bolded is going to happen. The Strait is international waters.

it is illegal per UNCLOS to charge a transit fee through international waters. I guess this means UNCLOS has to be amended with zero objections by all UN member states. I doubt it will happen.

 

[Prophecy]

I'm skeptical China would even agree to that regardless of Iranian willingness.

They would be wise to do so and rightfully.

Collective security pact among big Muslim countries is the way to ensure safety for all.

 

[Indos]

Sir, it's not even a "de facto" matter. Please feel free to refer to numerous previous posts about the Strait. Waters within 12 nautical miles perpendicular to a coast are not "international waters". They are territorial waters. The Strait is Omani and Iranian, not international.

Therefore "freedom of navigation" does not apply. Only "innocent passage" applies. Iran has the right therefore to impose terms on passage based on its own determined national security requirements. It can charge a toll and stop and search as it sees fit.

The water, everything below it, and the sky above it all count as either Iranian or Omani territory.

Like in Malacca Strait

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Shipowners pay to free vessels held by Indonesian navy near Singapore

By Reuters Published: Nov 14, 2021 05:38 PM




More than a dozen shipowners have made payments of about $300,000 apiece to release vessels detained by the Indonesian navy, which said they were anchored illegally in Indonesian waters near Singapore, according to sources with direct knowledge of the matter, Reuters said on Sunday.

https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202111/1238908.shtml

 

[Ali_Baba]

I was in two minds about the ceasefire until I saw the X posts from Iran, USA and Pakistan. Seems all sides waving this off with no losers or winners. The basis of all good deals.

However, the hard work starts now, the USA has to restrain Israel.

Hope the Iranian delegation has top notch security for their flight for their trip to Pakistan on Friday.

Given the way that Trumps mind works, there is a way for Iran to unwind all manner of sanctions and to give Trump the deal he seeks and the freedom from sanctions that Iran desires.

Thoughts and prayers for all.

And Trump has to constrain Israel.

 

[kobra]

Pakistan the G.O.A.T!

I feel good tonight and I think the war is over ceasefires are really hard to break. Korean war ended in ceasefire like a million years ago and it has held.

Hopefully IA.. but their is always a danger as long as oing rabbid war criminal pig Natanyahu is in office

 

[Starlord]

Some hinting that China helped I say to them, stop! This was all Pakistan and all credit to Pakistan China may have said something but Iran already agreed with Pakistan and no spin is going to change that.

No its unfair to not give credit to other countries like Oman, Turkey & Egypt and China. They played the positive role and Pakistan would not have achieved it without their help.

 

[RocketLaw]

I just reached airport security, and the officer asked, "Are you from Pakistan?"
I said: Yes.
The officer said:
Proud day for you and Your country, you saved the whole world.
Believe me, in the rush of joy and emotions, I couldn't even properly thank him for those beautiful words.
Pakistan Zindabad

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[lightning f57]

Some hinting that China helped I say to them, stop! This was all Pakistan and all credit to Pakistan China may have said something but Iran already agreed with Pakistan and no spin is going to change that.

Mr Solar many were involved including Egypt, Turkey. I would say however and you must begrudgingly admit, Chinese weight would make all the difference especially for Iran and trumpy as he loves strongman Xi.

 

[Master Chief]

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Beautiful. Music to my ears.

What's better than a hindutva barking at the moon than a pahlavist screeching like a banshee?

 

[dbc]

Hope the Iranian delegation has top notch security for their flight for their trip to Pakistan on Friday.

... and please don't accept any electronic gifts including mobile phones, pagers or apple airtag.

 

[Starlord]

Beautiful. Music to my ears.

What's better than a hindutva barking at the moon than a pahlavist screeching like a banshee?

Their Racism is astonishing.