Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Ali_Baba]

Israel army issues an full evacuation order from southern Lebanon.

Where did you see that ?

 

[Blain2]

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/08/world/asia/china-iran-cease-fire.html

Iran relies on China as an economic lifeline and for materials to keep its war effort going. China can cut those off and leave Iran to face a UNSC sanctioned invasion. People say the ceasefire is in their interest but they have a economic interest in keeping energy prices down. Why is it in their interest for the war to continue?

"Pressing" and "forced" are two different things.

I can press you to be nice, that is not the same as being forced to be nice. Latter has a punitive connotation. No such thing existed in China-Iran discussions.

Last, the entire world has an economic interest in this war stopping. Cost of living, petroleum etc. is all going up. China is not unique in feeling the pinch.

 

[Ali_Baba]

As I explained before, this 'pause' is necessary for the Israelis to deal with Hezbollah in the meantime while the attacks on Iran are simply postponed.

It is no coincidence that Beirut gets destroyed as we speak. Being an ally of Iran is dangerous.

Being a neighbour of Israel is dangerous. Just ask Egypt, Jordan, Syria. Its not just Lebanon.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/08/world/asia/china-iran-cease-fire.html

Iran relies on China as an economic lifeline and for materials to keep its war effort going. China can cut those off and leave Iran to face a UNSC sanctioned invasion. People say the ceasefire is in their interest but they have a economic interest in keeping energy prices down. Why is it in their interest for the war to continue?

Your logic is very confused. Accusing countries that help Iran without evidence is irresponsible.

You believe Trump's empty words that 'China has convinced Iran,' yet you are unwilling to believe in China, which uses its veto power to protect Iran. You are so quick to believe others, so why not choose to believe Iran, China, and Russia? You only believe what Trump and the United States say.

China and Iran signed the "China-Iran Comprehensive Cooperation Plan" on March 27, 2021. Iran became a full member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization in 2023 and will become a full member of the BRICS countries in 2024.

Secondly, the aggression of the United States and Israel against Iran is illegal.

On April 6, at the United Nations Security Council, China and Russia used their veto votes. So why should we cut off Iran's supplies and trade? Why should we allow the UN to approve aggression against Iran?

Eleven votes in favor, two against, and two abstentions prove that Iran needs more support. Every country has different voices; Iran accepting peace negotiations can provide reasonableness and legitimacy for the countries supporting Iran.

A ceasefire in Iran is in the short-term interests of all countries, not just China. Pakistan and other countries are only providing an opportunity for peace talks, which requires the consent of the United States and Iran.

Honestly, your statements sound more like those of spies for the United States and Israel. You always use inflammatory language to try to divide the relationship between Iran and the countries supporting Iran.

 

[MH.Yang]

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/08/world/asia/china-iran-cease-fire.html

Iran relies on China as an economic lifeline and for materials to keep its war effort going. China can cut those off and leave Iran to face a UNSC sanctioned invasion. People say the ceasefire is in their interest but they have a economic interest in keeping energy prices down. Why is it in their interest for the war to continue?

Firstly, unlike other countries, due to the China Russia oil pipeline, China is minimally affected by the strait blockade.

Secondly, China monopolizes the electric energy industries such as new energy vehicles, photovoltaics, drones, and robots, and is willing to see the global oil industry shrink.

Thirdly, the oil crisis is severely impacting the manufacturing industries in regions such as Japan, TaiWan and South Korea, helping to expand China's manufacturing industry.

Fourthly, this war is weakening the military and economic strength of the United States. It also severely undermined the global influence of the United States.


Without a doubt, if we do not consider Iran's interests and security, we would be happy to see the war continue for a long time.

 

[tower9]

There will be no peace, the next saga could be China/Taiwan in the Asia-Pacific.

Then the truce in the Middle East will be disrupted again.

It is just a pause for the next bigger event.

Our incompetent ministry of foreign affairs will only have triggered a much bigger war with their soft stance.

The US isn’t coming after China and especially not after this debacle. If anything the next target is Cuba but I doubt this ceasefire will last. Israel will not let peace last.

 

[Shags101]

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/sirens-warn-of-rocket-fire-in-galilee-communities/

I don’t think this ceasefire is going to last more than a week Bibi doesn’t want it to and thankfully Hezbollah isn’t going to go back to status quo with them bombing them and them taking it

 

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[WildApache]

Never

There is no ceasefire, it was a Zionist ploy to deceive Iran, and now they used China as a guarantor of the agreement, but they have already violated it.

- Iranian oil was attacked and Lebanon suffered a major attack.
- Iran already attacked Saudi Arabian oil today and announced that it will launch a major attack against Israel.
- As I said before, there are people inside Iran working for them (all the time). The pause was to give Israel time to attack Lebanon and the oil depot.
- Israel tried to carry out a new "elimination of Hezbollah leadership" but partially failed.
- The US is sending a lot of weapons and planes to the Middle East, showing that it was just a bluff to buy time.

NOTE: The ceasefire was invented to lower the price of oil, thus buying time for Trump and Netanyahu. China and Pakistan are revealed as "agents of Zionism" for having joined and forced Iran to accept.

As per sky news ceasefire is over
1000s dead in Lebanon just today .

Go on Pakistan .

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

OFF TOPIC There is a Pakistani forum that is dedicated to cricket and let's indians run riot there. I'm not joking, the ENTIRE indian race seems to have lost their minds and gone FULL RETARD on Pakistan helping to broker the ceasefire between Iran and america.......

 

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i think it will hold give it 2 days except the israeli lebanon front


Irans objective for talks should be to get the US out of the picture and bomb israel only revert it to a situation like 12 day war and continue from there

 

[BonPlan]

@BonPlan
Bro with you being more french than the french - could you not pick this up to share?
Or
Were you busy on your indian forum
You vegetate on?

The two, General !

 

[东风夜放花千树]

There is no ceasefire, it was a Zionist ploy to deceive Iran, and now they used China as a guarantor of the agreement, but they have already violated it.

- Iranian oil was attacked and Lebanon suffered a major attack.
- Iran already attacked Saudi Arabian oil today and announced that it will launch a major attack against Israel.
- As I said before, there are people inside Iran working for them (all the time). The pause was to give Israel time to attack Lebanon and the oil depot.
- Israel tried to carry out a new "elimination of Hezbollah leadership" but partially failed.
- The US is sending a lot of weapons and planes to the Middle East, showing that it was just a bluff to buy time.

NOTE: The ceasefire was invented to lower the price of oil, thus buying time for Trump and Netanyahu. China and Pakistan are revealed as "agents of Zionism" for having joined and forced Iran to accept.

My friend, do not believe what Trump says; everything he says is a lie.

Trump said, 'Believe that China has persuaded Iran.' Pakistan has made efforts for peace, but what does this have to do with China? Whether the war continues or not, China and Iran have always been trading, and Chinese ships can pass normally.

Trump's goal is to create divisions in Iran and to affect the relationships between Iranian states. Trump has said so much empty talk, so why do so many people believe just this one statement? If China were pressuring Iran, why did China use its veto at the UN Security Council together with Russia to protect Iran?

China will not provide any guarantees for peace between the US and Iran. The reason is simple: the US lacks credibility, and the US is influenced by Israel, which also lacks credibility.

 

[BigMela2onin]

Firstly, unlike other countries, due to the China Russia oil pipeline, China is minimally affected by the strait blockade.

Energy prices still rise just as the did in the US. I am paying over $1 more than I did before this war started despite the US being a major oil producer.

Your logic is very confused. Accusing countries that help Iran without evidence is irresponsible.

You believe Trump's empty words that 'China has convinced Iran,' yet you are unwilling to believe in China, which uses its veto power to protect Iran. You are so quick to believe others, so why not choose to believe Iran, China, and Russia? You only believe what Trump and the United States say.

It is Iranian officials saying it not Trump.

China and Iran signed the "China-Iran Comprehensive Cooperation Plan" on March 27, 2021. Iran became a full member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization in 2023 and will become a full member of the BRICS countries in 2024.

Secondly, the aggression of the United States and Israel against Iran is illegal.

On April 6, at the United Nations Security Council, China and Russia used their veto votes. So why should we cut off Iran's supplies and trade? Why should we allow the UN to approve aggression against Iran?

Eleven votes in favor, two against, and two abstentions prove that Iran needs more support. Every country has different voices; Iran accepting peace negotiations can provide reasonableness and legitimacy for the countries supporting Iran.

A ceasefire in Iran is in the short-term interests of all countries, not just China. Pakistan and other countries are only providing an opportunity for peace talks, which requires the consent of the United States and Iran.

Honestly, your statements sound more like those of spies for the United States and Israel. You always use inflammatory language to try to divide the relationship between Iran and the countries supporting Iran.

If I am wrong then I will admit it, we will see during negotiations. If I end up being wrong then I am grateful for Pakistan's and China's efforts.

 

[Taimoor]

While Americans are in Islamabad, we should take this event and press upon them that look, we need to build this Pak-Iran pipeline for our energy needs, so while you make your deal with Iran, give us sovereign guarantees that you will look the other way while we build it.