Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Navid09]

Why Jordan not hit more they are very desrving

If U hit Jordan morr, then it means less strikes on Israel.

Obviously Israel is much higher priority.

If war continues and air defences degrade dramatically, maybe they will send cheaper drones there

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

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These are the things you draw red lines on... things that dictate whether you negotiate or not... set warnings... put everyone on notice.
Remember, bases were evacuated because it was known that they'd be targeted, because they couldn't be protected, because concentrations were detrimental, because radars, equipment and materiel was exposed... it is more so now considering key facilities and much of interception capabilities have been lost... worse movements are seen and gauged real time. The decisions seem to have been made by zion to expose US troops to the max and burn this bridge once and for all...

Play catch up with American electorate in coming years as they lose sight to much immediate and greater concerns at home... with no prospects, high inflation and short term memories. At this point even zion doesn't see a win but seeks as much of Iran minus America equation as possible with limited damage to itself... just to crown itself in the short term as America collapses and Iran diminished...

Reflects how dire they assume their own prospects owing to miliekowsky own legal national and international issues and zion possible last hand in US. It is exactly why the bluster of orange clown has hollowed US out at the top and decision making levels with firings and resignations. Kent therefore would be the foremost in not only acknowledging this but calling it out loud. As US works as proxy for rats tail... overtly! as humiliating as it gets...

 

[Lulldapull]

Ceasefires actually play right into America's hands. Iran is never going to "beat" the U.S. in a straight-up war anyway; the whole point is to use this conflict to shake American hegemony and force them to rethink their aggressive stance toward Iran.

If Iran keeps flipping back and forth on a ceasefire now, all those undecided countries will think Iran is weak-willed and run straight back to the U.S. If that happens, Iran's strategic goals will be pretty much dead in the water.

It’s so over no? What flipping? What undecided toady?

Are you serious?

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It’s commercial news now what’s actually happening

 

[ShapurII]

Russia also fell into vicious inflation at the beginning. As long as you have resources, why should you be afraid of inflation? Taking a step back, why do you think the Chinese government will not provide loans to Iran?

Because hyperinflation will eventually lead to the collapse of the system, as it happened in the Weimar Republic, Venezuela and even Zimbabwe. The Islamic Republic is already on thin ice.

I don't think China would risk US sanctions and tariffs to do that.

 

[MH.Yang]

Because hyperinflation will eventually lead to the collapse of the system, as it happened in the Weimar Republic, Venezuela and even Zimbabwe. The Islamic Republic is already on thin ice.

I don't think China would risk US sanctions and tariffs to do that.

Do you think China would care about the US tariff war? Does China care about the tariff war when it supports Russia? How many times have China and the United States imposed tariffs? Has China lost?

 

[Ali_Baba]

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Military action maybe imminent within next 24 hours.

This is China signalling to Iran and the world, that Iran will reject the American "demands" and there will be more war in hours and days to come.

If the Iranian FM does decline American demands in Islamabad, then he should remain in Pakistan as Israel has said they will kill Iranian leadership and his plane will be at significant risk on the return flight. Israel may well not wait for a greenlight from the USA for that.

The Pakistani FM did a tour of all the main "actors" in Iran, but a person who had an iPhone on him, so the question is, could Pakistan have compromised locations of Iranian bunkers etc? We know they met in some bunkers, and Pakistan did show pictures of meetings within the bunkers. ( We like to say, oh no, Pakistani Army would have known better etc, but they did, they would have used a simple DSLR to take pictures, and not an iPhone )..

 

[Ali_Baba]

seems both sides are hellbent on NOT HAVING A DEAL and rather, sending the global level into economic depression, one from which we wont recover and all will bear the consequences of this war, all bcaz of Satanyahu and his evil bastards

I am not sure that is entirely correct. One side wants the surrender of the other side, but has failed to achieve that on the battlefield, and now wants it on the table instead. One sides, "demands" are unrealistic". The cause and responsibility of global economic issues therefore rests with the aggressor, and not the one defending.

Iran, is not economically integrated with the world, it has not been since the 80's, therefore the pain of the world does not really hurt Iran, as Iran has learnt to live with sanctions. The world, is now having to kind with Iran's sanctions in kind..

 

[Ali_Baba]

This is a five-star fragging disaster

So, the Americans are having an issue with the war they ordered ?! The USA/Israel are wholly and solely responsible for this global mess.

 

[Homajon]

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[Ali_Baba]

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lol - maybe as part of the terms for negotiations, they should ask for Reza Pahlavi's "head" on a plate ?

 

[Ali_Baba]

I don't think they even have to. Ships are still able to leave the strait despite the blockade.

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Each tanker is worth on average $300million to Iran in terms of oil revenue for context !

 

[SecularNationalist]

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Exactly
I don't think they are up for any negotiations. Those talks are just for deception.
Now only Jared krushner and Steve witkoff are traveling to islamabad.Two big mouth pieces of isreal. No JD Vance. Not a single person in the US delegation who wants peace and wants the war to end. Next 5 days are critical.

 

[SecularNationalist]

Do you think China would care about the US tariff war? Does China care about the tariff war when it supports Russia? How many times have China and the United States imposed tariffs? Has China lost?

Yes I believe china will give all kinds of weapon and economic support to Iran. Because that serves Chinese broader interests in the region.
If the war restrarts now and most probably it will,that will be the final decisive, catastrophic and bloody war with no temporary ceasefires.

 

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[东风夜放花千树]

Russia also fell into vicious inflation at the beginning. As long as you have resources, why should you be afraid of inflation? Taking a step back, why do you think the Chinese government will not provide loans to Iran?

I find that many people's logic is extremely confused.

On one hand, they criticize China for asking Iran to stop the war. Their basis is Trump's statements. Trump is a liar—how is that any different from having no basis at all?

On the other hand, they complain about Iran's economic problems. China is the largest buyer of Iranian energy. In 2021, China and Iran signed the "China-Iran 25-Year Strategic Cooperation Agreement," in which China promised to invest $400 billion over the next 25 years in Iranian banking, telecommunications, ports, railways, healthcare, and information technology in exchange for a stable and cheap oil supply.

My view is the same as yours. Russia was kicked out of the SWIFT system by the United States, and Western countries imposed 30,159 sanctions on Russia, yet Russia's economy did not collapse. In 2025, China-Russia trade still reached $228.1 billion under sanctions. Here are Russia's GDP data.

I do not agree with your view that China provides loans to Iran to help stabilize its economy. Russia and China have built mutual trust through years of cooperation. This year marks the 30th anniversary of the establishment of the China-Russia strategic partnership and the 25th anniversary of the signing of the Treaty of Good-Neighborliness and Friendly Cooperation between China and Russia. China did not provide loans to Russia, and likewise will not provide loans to Iran.

In 2021, China and Iran signed the "China-Iran 25-Year Strategic Cooperation Agreement." In July 2025, Deputy Minister of Communications of Iran Khisaz confirmed for the first time that China's BeiDou system has been listed as a core option for navigation replacement. We can see that the implementation of the "China-Iran 25-Year Strategic Cooperation Agreement" is progressing very slowly.

The economic cooperation contracts are just sitting there. Russia can cooperate perfectly with China, so why can't Iran? Where is the problem?