Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Hassan Al-Somal]

I am still shocked that Secretary Rubio announced that "The operation is over - Epic Fury,"
without achieving any of their war objectives:

(1) no removal of enriched uranium and elimination forever of Iran's nuclear program,
(2) no constraints on missile production,
(3) no end of funding for terrorists &
(4) no democratic regime change.

Epic Fury is going to be remembered as Epic Failure.

McFaul is a typical "Israeli" firster Neocon who wants the US to forever wage war on any country that Israel deems a threat. Truth is, under IAEA regulations, Iran is permitted to have a civilian nuclear program, and the US intelligence establishment never proven nor claimed a military dimension to Iran's civilian nuclear program.

Besides, Iran is not a defeated nation, so the demand that Iran should limit the reach of its missile program is really dumb. I mean how can a country limit its only means of responding to an aggression?

 

[Fatman17]

 

[Shags101]

Honestly to much it’s going to happen not going to happen and it probably will happen and it won’t happen all at once I guess we will find out very soon but funny thing is from what I have read it’s just a framework to get to a deal so it’s not even an actual deal but more discussions to get to a deal…….funny thing is I know I sound confusing like I usually do but that’s basically what’s happening it’s total gibberish

 

[Immortals]

 

[Watandar]

Wow. Rare Saudi W if true.

 

[Shags101]

Wow. Rare Saudi W if true.

Well honestly not surprising let’s say if this war has cost UAE around 120 billion and counting what has it cost Saudi Arabia and all of those mega projects that they were building many of which were already downsized are now out the window for the long term 2030 is now 2040 or later they bet on the wrong horse they bought into the Bibi and Trump war would be won in less than a week now Iran has almost won this chess match if the reports are true

 

[SolarWarden]

Fake news. If Iran rejects Orangeman's deal US will use Saudi airspace and land you can bet your monthly salary on this.

 

[KAL-EL]

Fake news. If Iran rejects Orangeman's deal US will use Saudi airspace and land you can bet your monthly salary on this.

And land where? Just curious? Are you talking about a land assault because that would be absolutely disastrous.

Or am I just misunderstanding you?

 

[SolarWarden]

And land where? Just curious? Are you talking about a land assault because that would be absolutely disastrous.

Or am I just misunderstanding you?

Airbases in Saudi land.

Many mainstream and non mainstream media reported the Saudis and the other oil kingdoms wanted this war as much as Israel. They want Orangeman to finish the job so I'm not buying it. Orangeman halted the operation freedom thingy because Pakistan asked Orangeman to halt because Pakistan was working on a deal.

If war breaks out Saudi and other oil kingdoms win because oil price will go up drastically. If Iran attacks oil kingdom oil depots and rigs they still win because oil will be even more expensive.

 

[Watandar]

Airbases in Saudi land.

Many mainstream and non mainstream media reported the Saudis and the other oil kingdoms wanted this war as much as Israel. They want Orangeman to finish the job so I'm not buying it. Orangeman halted the operation freedom thingy because Pakistan asked Orangeman to halt because Pakistan was working on a deal.

If war breaks out Saudi and other oil kingdoms win because oil price will go up drastically. If Iran attacks oil kingdom oil depots and rigs they still win because oil will be even more expensive.

That was before the war when the GCC wrongly believed that Iran would never target their energy facilities, and even if Iranians attempted to, the all seeing all powerful USA would easily defend them. They also believed the mighty US navy would never allow the Strait of Hormuz to be closed. The realities all turned out very different. I am inclined to believe this report as GCC has now split and is seeking self preservation from Netanyahu and his puppet , the US.

 

[MH.Yang]

Fake news. If Iran rejects Orangeman's deal US will use Saudi airspace and land you can bet your monthly salary on this.

In China's view, Saudi Arabia's diplomatic stance has undergone significant changes in the past decade. Saudi Arabia's diplomatic stance has shifted from being dominated by sectarian conflicts to being dominated by national interests.

Saudi Arabia has been implementing a "dual track strategy" of diplomacy, strengthening its military capabilities on the one hand, and promoting strategic cooperation with multiple countries on the other hand, rather than relying on any single external force, in order to achieve geopolitical autonomy.

At the beginning of this war, Saudi Arabia tried its best to maintain neutrality and decouple from the positions of the United States and Israel.

In the later stage, Saudi Arabia was hit by Iran, and the huge internal pressure forced its position to gradually become tough, but the overall goal is still to avoid falling into a direct war with Iran.

Saudi Arabia's performance in this war has shown that it regards safeguarding sovereignty and ensuring economic transformation (Vision 2030) as its top priority, which is even higher than its consideration of sectarian conflicts and regional allies.

Overall, if you expect Saudi Arabia to support the United States in dealing with Iran, War. You will be disappointed.

 

[RocketLaw]

BREAKING: Trump's "Project Freedom" collapsed after Saudi Arabia and Kuwait suspended US military access to their bases, airspace, and overflight rights, per NBC News and Ryan Grim.

The Kingdom blocked the US from flying aircraft out of Prince Sultan Airbase or through Saudi airspace, completely grounding the operation and removing the air defense umbrella protecting ships in transit.

Saudi leadership was "furious" after Trump announced Project Freedom on Truth Social without notifying them. Qatar and Oman were also blindsided, with Trump only contacting them after the operation began. A direct call between Trump and Crown Prince MBS failed to resolve the situation.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

 

[FUB]

BREAKING: Trump's "Project Freedom" collapsed after Saudi Arabia and Kuwait suspended US military access to their bases, airspace, and overflight rights, per NBC News and Ryan Grim.

The Kingdom blocked the US from flying aircraft out of Prince Sultan Airbase or through Saudi airspace, completely grounding the operation and removing the air defense umbrella protecting ships in transit.

Saudi leadership was "furious" after Trump announced Project Freedom on Truth Social without notifying them. Qatar and Oman were also blindsided, with Trump only contacting them after the operation began. A direct call between Trump and Crown Prince MBS failed to resolve the situation.

That is a total spin. The Saudis' entire being depends on the Americans. If they do not do as told, democracy will find its way. You would see freedom fighters, the usual bs. The reality is that there is a mutiny within the American armed forces. The goys, especially the grunts, do not want to die for the Epstein clan. In addition, the damage inflicted on the Americans is probably around $200 billion dollars( the totality of the cost of the war). They say $25 Billion now, but you will hear about it a year later.